Frozen pizzas are better then fast food. Even the lowest tier.
Sometimes I grab a pizza from the refrigerator isle at my local Lidl. They’re definitely not fresh or gourmet quality, but for 2.90€ and 15 minutes in the oven, you really can’t complain
This is a baffling opinion. Frozen pizzas are almost always fucking dogshit.
Hard agree. You can also break them in half or into quarters and cook them in smaller portions. This is how my partner and I save money on eating out. We usually eat out due to some combination of being tired or lazy, or craving salty, greasy food. This hits all the major potential bases but keeps us from gorging on pizza or wasting what we can’t eat.
“than”.
And the higher end ones are just GOOD.
Its a similar price to fast food, I can just keep a few in the freezer and I can add some little extras to make them more to my taste or chuck some leftover stuff on them to use it up.
Little bit of garlic powder, some cracked pepper and some chilli flakes…
Eeeew what? I mean fast food is trash, but i’d rather eat the cardboard box than a cheap frozen pizza. And if you buy an expensive frozen pizza you might as well make one yourself that is cheaper and better
Go to In-N-Out. It’s the superior fast food brand
Either that or cook in your own god-damn house
As someone who hasn’t eaten recently and who loves burgers…
Die. that gif was unnecessary and made me so much hungrier than I already was. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy
My death from starvation…
But then I would have to live in California and lno one wants to do that.
It’s not fast food though. In-N-Out takes much longer than most sit down restaurants.
yeah shove that corpse right in my face i fucking love cruelty and violence against vulnerable individuals
Hell fucking yes, good food is delicious.
Shake and bake baby
I fel sorry for people whondont have an Aldi or a local equivalent
I have an Aldi but my wife and I have five jobs between us, a 20 year old still living at home and two teenagers who aren’t driving yet. Sometimes we don’t have time to cook. I still shop at Aldi tho!
Use. Your. Ovens.
Can’t I grill food? Or cook it on the range? Why do I have to use my oven to make meals?
You can if you want to.
Using an oven is just easier and should appeal more to the kind of person that is used to eating out all the time because of how low-effort it is.
It’s broken.
What’s wrong with it?
I don’t know, I just sublet.
We use a toaster oven and a hot plate instead.
But I’m allergic to mittens.
Don’t have one, don’t have space to have one, don’t have money to get one, don’t have any hope to ever get a place with one. Just like evergrowing amount of people.
Get a cook top. Even nice ones are like 100 bucks. Even induction ones and compatible pans are cheap. Five or six fast food visits and you could’ve bought enough to cook a massive variety of cheap meals.
Thankfully, I’m in pretty good position, I don’t live in US, so my diet consists of food, not of sugar and sawdust. I do have an induction cooktop, and can confirm it’s indeed amazing. My enormous privilege aside, I would like to some day get into the oven territory.
Five or six fast food visits and you could’ve bought enough
But this is the main problem. It’s boots theory all over. For people living paycheck to paycheck the calculation of “if I don’t eat for a week I can invest into myself” doesn’t sound as appealing as for people who can afford to do a little bit of savings.
Yea I agree with you from the perception angle. Being poor is a disgusting trap that the US should be fully ashamed that it still exists.
… Though mathematically, only a fool pays piecemeal for the PRODUCT of what they could do themselves for much, much less. A week of suffering to open up your food options is a strategic move more people should and can make.
If they were truly, completely unable to save money, they wouldn’t be the audience going to fast food that we’re talking about, as fast food is also beyond the truly poor’s budget.
You can get A LOT more food from groceries than fast food for the same price, so if they’re going to fast food and complaining about never being able to afford things… I have good news for them!
For a lot of people in America, a lot a lot, all those people whom I am talking about, there is no such choice.
They’re in food deserts, they’re overworked to death, they don’t have skills, they don’t have equipped kitchens, they don’t have time to cook, they don’t have energy to do it.
It’s a bootstraps problem. How can I work good job and can happily spend an evening cooking a nice meal, but half of Americans can’t? Well, obviously because they’re lazy and probably stupid. Not because of the enormous privilege I have, one so big I can’t even recognise the problems they’re facing.No one is asking people to spend all evening cooking gourmet meals. Many, many, MANY food items, like a toasted tuna sandwich, grilled cheese, mac n cheese, frying up some eggs, whipping up pre mixed pancakes, etc… They all take less time than it takes to drive to a fast food place, order food, and either drive back, or sit and eat it.
But noooo, let’s choose to be a victim of our own circumstances instead of trying to improve things in the little ways we can control! You are so wise for rolling over and giving up.
because of the enormous privilege I have, one so big I can’t even recognise the problems they’re facing.
Well, I don’t recognise a problem, it probably doesn’t exist then.
A toaster oven can do most things that a full-sized oven can do.
That really blows. Are you living in one of those chinese/japanese domiciles that are essentially just cages for people?
Sardine-culture aside, perhaps you can try an air fryer. I honestly have never used one, but it seems like something people would recommend as a replacement and they take up a fraction of the space.
Not really, at least couple of steps above, it’s 30 square meters overall. It’s nice for me, but the kitchen is too small to have such luxuries as an oven.
People in comments saying to cook for yourself. I do cook for myself but geez grocery prices aren’t making it easy.
“Prices aren’t making it easy”, covers at least a decade I am not looking forward to. I wager that a $65 Xbox controller will become a $200 item in a couple of years.
I cook for myself and it’s still not good
Our produce and ingredients suck here in the US. It’s all devoid of nutrition and usually gamed to look better than it actually is. Lots of things taste funny to me, and if it’s not flavorless, it tastes like chemicals or metal. There’s simply no regulation or oversight.
When I have food that is grown or produced locally (and ethically) or food that is imported from Europe or even Canada, the difference is stark — I feel like I can actually digest and the flavor is night and day.
I’m not sure what your reasoning is here.
Grocery prices aren’t making it easy, so buy from restaurants that are even more expensive?Three cans of hoppin johns beans, one can of chilli beans, 1 oz can of tomato sauce, 1/2 lb ground beef several onions sliced, garlic. About $20-25 for this and if makes 5-6 meals.
the point is your parents forgot to teach you how to cook
My parents cooking was meant to be forgotten. Alton Brown is my Yoda.
oh yeah that might be, Jerkface, but I’ve learned myself.
However, while at work, I have to eat out, no way of bringing my own shit with me.
They also forgot to teach you how to be frugal
Obligatory: $25
In & Out is still cheap, but the line is regularly all the way around the block where the place is at every location, so it’s hard to say it’s fast food.
They’re also not in a lot of the US or in international markets.
Urgh I can’t argue about the price and quality of their burgers but man it feels bad to support the people that run it. They’re big time conspiracy MAGAts 🤢
Well fuck… Can’t have shit 😩
Though… I haven’t been anywhere, ever, that checked for my vaccines. I have had that little card in my wallet since the first vaccines for COVID were being rolled out and got mine; it’s never left my wallet. Is that just a thing in San Francisco or is it supposed to be the whole state?
Yeah, prices went up and the quality went down. The best thing to do is stop buying there. As multiple people already pointed out, you can get a lot more and better food for 25 bucks.
The fast food chains forgot that they aren’t actual restaurants. The customers have to remind them. Aaaaaaaand that’s the problem.
They thought they tapped out the fast food market and had to attract restaurant goers.
I bought a single Big Mac in rural nowhere the day before yesterday. I expected to pay about 4.50. Nope. Almost 7 dollars. 6.80 for single, cold, dry, wilted ass lettuce, dry ass cheese, sloppily made burger. I waited outside for nearly half an hour for it. Girl came to my window and said, “what did you order?” I told her and she still handed me a bag with a 4 piece nugget and a small fry. I had to go in and tell them they got it wrong, show my receipt which was stuck on the bag, then wait another 15 minutes for that cold, yucky sandwich.
The person who ordered the nuggets either left without looking or decided to say “fuck it”, because they didn’t come back in with me.
I would have done that, but I paid 7 bucks for the the shit.
That is it for me.
I don’t get mad when people make mistakes, and I wasn’t mad when all that happened. The only thing that made me mad was the price.
McDonald’s can kiss my ass. A few more dollars and a short wait and I could have got a banging ass meal just down the road at the noodle joint.
Big mac has always been a scam.
It has the same amount of meat as a mcdouble. They’re literally just selling you bread.
https://youtu.be/QoBhGInCDRg TLDW These guys say no. But watch it just for the accents.
Interesting video. I’m glad others have realized how similar the two burgers are.
When comparing the value of the two, I always look for what it costs the business to make rather than how much satisfaction it provides to the customers. That’s a great way to identify if people are getting scammed without even realizing it.
Soda and fries, for example, are total scams. They cost the company pennies while the customer pays dollars. But what’s a meal without fries and a drink? And businesses bank on that.
Same thing for a Big Mac. Most people say “it’s the mac sauce,” but you’re still getting the same amount of meat as a mcdouble with some shitty lettuce, more bread, and that sauce. The only thing that really costs the company money is the meat. You get the same amount of meat in a McDouble as Big Mac, but end up paying twice the price.
It’s a scam, even if people say the Big Mac is still better.
The question was if a mcdouble like a big Mac was the same thing, and through a taste test these guys said no. Not price, taste.
What question?
Seriously?
Don’t worry about answering though, I realized conversation with you is pointless. To you everything is a scam. And then you play this stupid game.
It’s the Satanic pursuit of endless profit growth that has driven these companies to Hell. For decades, they focused on expanding the number of stores. But eventually you hit a wall. Eventually the country is saturated, and marketing can only convince people to eat so many burgers.
In a sane world, this is when companies would be content with their current size. Congrats. You won capitalism. Good job. Now just maintain your current size and pay out handsome dividends forever. No need to keep trying to grow.
Well, that’s not good enough for Satanic capitalism; the growth needs to come from somewhere. So they have to start slashing quality and raising prices. It’s enshittification/late-stage capitalism. When you max out growth, all that’s left is to raise prices and cut quality. Ultimately this does destroy a business, but Satanic capitalists only care about short-term concerns.
It’s a bummer.
Like, all around.
When I was a kid, going to town was an event. We’d head down to the local hardware store which stocked NES and SNES games for us kids, had a section for toys and everything. Nothing fancy, just water guns and action figures. My mom actually talked the guy into stocking Nintendo games so we didn’t have to travel two towns over to get them. We’d leave there and my mom would take us to Speedy’s for a haircut. (They recently tore his old building down. I hated to see it). Then we’d walk down to the fabric shop so my mom could buy some stuff to make curtains and things. Once we were done there we’d go down to the little grocery store, the owner always gave me and my brother a lollipop and a dollar bill. Then we’d go from place to place browsing and window shopping.
Walmart ended all of that when it came to my town. People fought it for a long time and finally compromised and let them build on the highway.
I liked capitalism before it got like this. When people owned their towns and local businesses.
It gets worse, actually. On top of everything, those big box businesses pay less people less money to work there, cost more, and pay less in taxes to the point that it actually costs cities money to have them. The cost of maintaining infrastructure for a single business in such a massive parking lot with nothing else far outweighs the tax revenue. The buildings aren’t designed to last more than 10 years, either, so they can’t be repurposed long term without tearing down and rebuilding.
Lemmy: THE CORPORATE PIGS WILL BE FIRST TO THE SLAUGHTER! DOWN WITH THE OLIGARCHIC BILLIONAIRES POISONING US AND KILLING THE PLANET! WE WILL CREATE A NEW ECO-COMMINIST UTOPIA OF PEACE AND PROSPERITY USING THE SWEAT, GRIT, AND COURAGE OF THE WORKING CLASS!!!111!!!
Also Lemmy: Corporate earth-destroying health-destroying cheeseburger cost $1 more 😭😭😭
I like how Lemmy is sometimes Reddit but way of the deep end
We cant all be privileged enough to spend all free time by the stove or eat the fancy fair trade stuff.
Privilege is when you cook rice instead of spending $150/week on fast food
There are plenty of cheap foods that are easy cook and take minimal time to do so (ex: pasta.) I blame capitalism for making people addicted to food from restaurants.
Respect my depression 😭
Do you reckon it could be different people posting?
Only fast food that is worth the money is Döner Kebab. But man they went up more than 100% in price in the last 15 years.
I used to buy one each Friday on my way home from school for 3€, now they are 6.50€ at the same place. Still a lot cheaper and way more tasty than most other fast food, so I still consider it king.Yeah… I stopped eating out at places that were “just okay”.
Like I’m willing to pay 4-5 euros for a “just okay” hamburger. But for 9 -15 I expect it to be top notch. If it isn’t top notch I’ll fire up the old frying pan myself and make a burger/fast food for like €. 3?
Street food/food trucks are the real fast food now. Chains are just shitty restaurants
Beef, veal, lamb or chicken? I don’t like chicken döner but veal/lamb are amazinnnnggg.
And you have to consider EVERYTHING has gotten expensive, so its a blessing döner is still affordable.
Fast food chains can die in a fire though. Their price hikes are in no way fair or justifiable.
If you know what meat your kebab is made from, it’s not a real kebab shop.
Where I go they have multiple cones or whatever they’re called
Oooh fancy lads! Kebab shops near me have exactly one stick and I couldn’t for the life of me tell you what meat it was. The only thing I know it definitely isn’t, is pork.
Is prob delicious though. Especially when drunk
I mean… at least it’s still fast, right?
Seriously though, I don’t remember the last time I ate fast food. If we don’t count pizza delivery that is.
I feel like we are now in Soylent Green age.
Lately, instead of picking up a fast food buyer and fries for $13, I’ve been going to Chili’s. They have a $10.99 special that is a REAL bacon cheeseburger, excellent fries, and a drink, and it even includes a salad or a cup of soup. With tax and tip, it’s $15.
The last time I went to 5 Guys, it was $24.50, and it wasn’t nearly as good.
The last time I went to 5 Guys
I stopped going to Five Guys unless it’s a kid’s birthday request.
Last time we went to Five Guys, kids got hot dogs, one plain, one with bacon, Wife got a burger, we got a regular fry and a cajun fry to share at the table and 4 softdrinks it came to $75, note, I didn’t even get myself a burger I got a drink and ate the fries.
For $10 more dollars, we can all go to Hibachi, walk out of there stuffed and have enough left for another meal.
$15 bacon cheese $10 hot dog $7 Fries $4 bottle of soda
They’re just insane.
Yeah, I wrote them off long ago, but I was recently pressed for time and they were right there. I was shocked at the price. Other than the fries, everything else is average, with the worst, cheapest buns in the biz.
The fries are legit, though. Classic Boardwalk-style fries, especially with malt vinegar.
I’ve been trying to convince the wife to authorize a restaurant grade fry cutter.
It’s super easy to make the fries if you have the gear
They have a $10.99 special
$11.
The downtown experience: $45 burger with a side of truffle fries. It’s mediocre at best.
Lol, and they charge you for the fries.
Wtf? 45 usd for a burger? That is insane
Only one specific hipster place I’m thinking of in Downtown but yeah. Lol