Your terms are acceptable.
Well, the gun would certainly improve my chances in the battle against fascist cops and soldiers. Political resistance is proving to be a failure. The Dems are already thinking that Kamala (proven failure) is our best chance against Trump 3.0 in 2028. No third-party will be viable by that date.
This is only a problem because Americans continue to support Democrats. Unfortunately, we need to be even more clear that their corrupt and ineffectual politics are no longer desired than we did in ‘24, because the bozos are pretending they didn’t get the message. The corporate Dems work tirelessly to enable disastrous Republican policies all the time, usually at the behest of their common donors - they should just stop the charade and switch parties.
In the meantime, there are efforts to get leftist 3rd parties off the ground. This Is our only hope to “vote” our way out of fascism, and yes, I’m aware it’s a minuscule chance of success. People typically don’t vote their way out of fascism, historically speaking.
Waiting for people to wake up. At this point I am not sure they will.
political resistance includes strikes, protests and mutual aid. oh and also guns when (because its just a matter of when in the us) it comes time for it. libs are just doing it aimlessly, start listening to the socialists and you won’t even need to elect anyone to get shit done.
also its cute that some people think you are likely to see another election in 2028.
If the government comes for me, they’re bringing more people than I can shoot. The first answer to that, is to prevent that from happening through political action. The second is that you don’t respond to that with a gun.
Everyone on Ruby ridge was armed, everyone in Waco was armed. They’re all dead for their troubles. A gun won’t fix that problem.
If you are as good as dead either way, why do you think it’s better to go down without a fight?
Being disarmed won’t save you, it just makes you an easier victim of the same forces.
“Armed resistance never works” says the uneducated and ahistorical American with no understanding of the world outside the fascist empire they live in.
I didn’t say armed resistance doesn’t work. I said your gun isn’t going to work.
You need a gun to join an armed resistance, Einstein. Surrendering your guns prevents your ability from joining an organized resistance.
Pretty sure I pull up with a semi full of fertilizer and I’d be their bestest friend.
It’s not about the reality of defending yourself from tyranny with homicide. It’s about the psychological comfort that the warped fantasy brings.
Their fantasy is specifically a David Koresh moment where the ATF and FBI come at them for fucking children.
Is that even happening? Considered US police and various letter agencies are basically at the level of open warfare against the population i would imagine population of such a liberty loving country would fight back…
Police and the military aren’t attacked in the US because the majority of Americans think those are good things. Americans want white supremacy and classicism enforced. Americans just think the enforcement is being done to the wrong groups, so they carry out mass shootings against schools, churches, etc. as a correction.
The actually oppressed are in no position to openly engage in warfare against the government. MLK pointed out it would be a disaster because the retaliation would exceed any forces black Americans could muster. Look at how much pearl clutching was done in the wake of the George Floyd protests. The so-called moderates immediately supported the pigs throwing people into unmarked vans.
Yes, again, US gun fetishist do nothing except shooting schoolkids. Butt Skaven is inventing fictional scenarios in his butt to get the thrill of being at the cops’s side despite he and his entire party never did anything else in his entire life.
Yeah, Americans love to fantasise about their beloved 2nd amendment (regardless of political persuasion), but they have never ever used it for what they (falsely) claim it was intended for.
Yeah that’s not exactly true though. You ever heard of the Battle of Blair Mountain and the Cole Wars?
Do you expect individuals to go up to their local government and let loose? What do you think the result of that would be?
That’s not how resistance movements work and never has been.
You must build first. Read history.
I’m calling up Americans and their relation to government. They are not the courageous liberty loving individuals they claim they are, there is plenty of gun violence in USA but very little if any is against the government and for their liberties despite it becing cited as the main reason of what is otherwise just a gun fetishism.
Point is: liberalism sucks and is unable to organise anyone for anything.
Well Americans aren’t a monolith and as I said, individuals taking action against a government achieves nothing. Do you believe America has achieved a mass leftist movement capable of overthrowing the govt?
Unless you are in China, Cuba, Vietnam, or NK you really don’t have a valid platform to criticize a people not overthrowing their government, have you partaken in the overthrow of your government/do you agree with your government?
Considering the OP is mocking a “leftist” liberal advocating the disarmament of the people. Do you think OP/most people agreeing with OP here are right wing liberals or ollectivist leftists? It seems to me you are advocating for liberal individualism or from a similar liberal view unless I’m drastically misunderstanding something.
unless I’m drastically misunderstanding something.
Yes, you managed. Down with liberalism, down with America.
Everyone should own a copy of Guerilla Warfare by Che Guevara.
Everyone should study Che. The Goat. Yes I’m biased.
Of course this is what it means. The people who wrote down this existing right had done the same to their equivalents. It’s not a fantasy.
Well, based on the average marksmanship displayed by most American shooters, those cops and soldiers can probably expect to go about their business with absolute safety.
What’s disgusting? Union busting.
It seems to be the only cure for fascism, sadly.
Ngl I do get the arguments against gun control in the abstract, and I’m maybe even sympathetic to some of them, but then I look at America and ehhhhhh
In your case, I’d suggest considering the fact that gun laws usually have grandfather clauses, in order to pass constitutional muster (Depriving people of property, without recompense).
So, the fash will be heavily armed, and any resistance to that cannot arm themselves.
It also involves the fantasy that you and your freedom buddies will survive a serious encounter with US armed forces because you have camos and tactical boots.
Oh right! Guess I should just let cops and military do whatever they want because they have the special American pass.
I remember when the cops shot at people homes during Floyd protests. Like wtf?
Yeah no shit buddy. It’s come to that point. I like you Pete, but don’t bury your head in the sand on this one. American soldiers defend fascism.
I like you Pete
Why, though? He’s a Neoliberal proponent of Reaganomics Lite and McKinsey grad (but I repeat myself) who keeps failing upwards.
2018 was a different time
No it wasn’t. Hell, it was even 2 years into the first Trump term.
Do you think he would say anything different now?
I think his audience has shifted
In what ways?
What has Pete done to make you believe he is going after an audience that would disagree with this statement and/or that he would now disagree with this statement?
Your initial comment was that “2018 was a different time” I’m trying to understand what you think has changed so drastically since then.
I think a lot of people stopped listening to the rad libs like Maddow and became disaffected from the Democrats since then. those folks are (at least around me) engaging in more radical acts of resistance than the marching-and-shouting that dominated the public actions of that time. so while buttegieg probably hasn’t shifted much, and might think he’s still talking to those same people, many of them are no longer listening.
No, we knew it was fascism then too.
Nah, every time pete pops up it’s something stupid that makes me like him less and less.
They’re talking about how this tweet is from 2018. Different situation then.
Maybe because he would be a fairly normal right wing figure in another country?
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I think this is directed at the right
