I was just thinking about this, when I’m facing an issue, the first thing I do is go to a search engine and usually there’s a Reddit post. But I don’t want to ask there. And the only way we’re going to build up the info for folks to find us and come here is for us to just start asking here. On the Fediverse. We need to build up that mountain of knowledge that Reddit has and will always have. So we should be championing ANYONE asking questions here. Even if we think it’s obvious and we think you can just Google it. There was a time where you literally couldn’t just Google it. That was built over time. We need to build that here. So start asking your questions here! Find the answers and then post your answer to your own question. Or let someone do it for you. We need to build the knowledge here to be found. It’s not just about people looking for alternatives. We need our knowledge to be more valuable than their knowledge.
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I think it shouldn’t be a competition but possibly something with added value. Possibly in the form of structure, ie something that doesn’t create hundreds of same/similar questions but constantly updates the best answers closest to the existing date. (Alphabetically searchable hashtags, etc…, build it communally, ie #NoStupidQuestions , how to best build a free information platform?).
Oh yeah, not a competition really, just post anything and on any Fediverse platform. We need to dog food the Fediverse. Let’s stop taking the easy way. Sure, find an answer if you like, but come back here tondhare with all of us. We need to build our own library of Alexandria.
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Really solid points that really resonate with me, but are we sure lemmy is the right platform for this? And if so, would we need a separate homeserver with these goals in mind?
I feel like there is monumental opportunity for something to rise up through the ashes of reddit/stack overflow and the ilk that are gettinng AI churned atm. These are things I’ve been reflecting on for weeks and have not found many answers, but if anyone finds the answers please guide/inform me
I’m definitely not saying Lemmy is the perfect place for this at all. I’m saying the Fediverse is. Post your questions and answers and thoughts and passions and comments and jokes and ideas to ANY platform on the Fediverse. Your ideal platform doesn’t exist? Talk about THAT instead or of you can BUILD IT. we’re at a cross roads. The old tech is crumbling and we need to build a new better community. It won’t happen over night, but it also won’t happen it we depend on the old ways. Christine Weber, cocreator of Activity Pub made a comment recently that revolutions are run by those that show up. I’m here, let’s start a revolution. :-). All it takes is us just talking, guiding, learning, putting our egos aside putting our worries and fears aside and rebuilding a new community.
sure a server focused on this would be great but at this point, but just asking also works to get the juices flowing
your local library is also a great option
I’ll never downplay a library. They’re wonderful. But I’m talking more about how we make the Fediverse more and more valuable. Yes go to the library and then share what you find on the Fediverse.
For most things is much quicker to just use the Internet
What’s quicker: searching bad info sources online or searching better info sources at the library?
Also OP didn’t say it had to be quick
I’d be curious if schools still teach kids how to look things up in books, or if writing reports is now a thing they ask chatgpt to do
Anecdotally, from teachers I know, they use chatgpt.
But libraries are not just print books! They have digital collections and online materials too.
Wikipedia is pretty reliable. It’s not perfect but for most things it does the job, and is up to date.
100% agree and I would like to add on to it that it’s worth just posting information, too.
Did you run into a weird error with your Linux install and have a difficult, yet interesting time troubleshooting it? Post the solution! Even if it doesn’t directly address someone else’s problem, often finding pieces of an issue and correlating them with a bigger problem can help.
I don’t run a personal blog and downvotes mean literally nothing here, so have at it!
I went cold turkey on Reddit when they stopped API access and it was rough in the beginning, but I get ever so slightly hints of the old internet here on Lemmy. It’s raw, but it’s fresh and it’s ours. I love it.
And if downvotes bother you, that’s okay. There are plenty of instances that don’t show it, say lemmy.blahaj.zone.
Also, on some UI’s you can disable it even on instances that show it.
100% this. SHARE anything and everything. Pretend like the internet doesn’t exist and it’s day one. Build it.
I’m happy to see people post about something cool they found, like some new software or whatever. Even if everyone else already knows about it and no one interacts, it’s not useless information.
Using a search engine and adding “Lemmy” will, given there is info of course, work similar to adding reddit before.
it’d be nice if you could do a site:reddit.com kinda thing for lemmy, maybe there could be a filter added in searxng or something
Kagi has a lens that only searches the Fediverse.
I’d like to see that happen. Search indexes will have to keep track of the fact, for instance, jlai.lu or infosec.pub are Lemmy instances despite the fact that they might not have “Lemmy” in the url, or even the page title.
It can be done of course, but it’s not like with reddit.com, where anything at that domain is automatically associated with the keyword “Reddit.”
Fediverse to replace stackoverflow would be something I am interested in.
Go for it! WE get to bikd it however WE want! And the Fediverse can sort by boosts. That’s your ‘this answer solved my problem’ or hell even go back and edit your comment to indicate the post that solved your problem.
Same here, it’d have to be something AI-hardened, though, still.
Fedi-Overflow?
Stackiverse?
This is true. 💪
We need to seriously AI proof before that happens or the bots will clean us out and eat all our bandwidth. The only thing keep us safe is we are under the radar.
Even if Lemmy grows to a point of being on the radar, theres still no hope for any real IP to lock down for anybody. The whole design is fairly antithetical to being taken over and turned into a cash cow of some kind, despite feeling very much like something centralized in terms of how we interact with it.
I agree with OP, and I think this can even become an even better repository for information than something like Reddit, because it’s more democratized and deters astroturfing or many types of malfeasance by design. Especially as it stands now, early on. Thats why I started a community for billiards. The reddit community for billiards, as well as old forum sites, are great wealths of information that is hard to otherwise find. It would be great to build something like that here over time
Instances can close registrations if there are too many bots, and somehow it could be okay. Bots aren’t impossible to fight, the problem is that capitalist platforms support or ignore the issue since for them is somewhat convenient driving engagement… Or whatever ad-revenue system is behind that.
Yeah accounts are needed to post I’m talking just the AIs scraping content and them not respecting robots.txt.
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New game:
“AI or Putin? You decide!”
finally, a recipe with a unique killer flavor
You’re right, and it’s infuriating that the AI scrapers are just so lazy/incompetent that they do things like try to scrape every dynamic page of a git repo instead of just cloning it. Similarly, they could just connect over ActivityPub and it wouldn’t have much more overhead than another private instance.
There’s Anubis which uses JavaScript to force browsers to do some work before they can access, but given how unpopular Cloudflare is around here, I imagine there’d be a lot of complaints if it was deployed on every instance.
Why isn’t 11 pronounced ‘Onety One’?
Probably a similar reason 22 isn’t pronounced ‘Twoty Two’
Still not nearly as annoying as the French refusal to just say huitante or nonante. “93” is “Quadrupletwenty-thirteen?” Êtes-vous foutant défoncé??
It’s a hangover from earlier base 12 counting systems in which things like eggs would be counted in dozens.
You need 12 unique symbols in a base 12 system.
Thirteen through nineteen come from a different language source than eleven and twelve.
That makes enough sense.
Now to figure out why my language (Portuguese) has unique names going up to 15 instead of 10 or 12.
Couldn’t find anything except that Spanish might be similar.
Know your meme guy pointing
Lol I meant more in starting in other posts or communities or micro blogs across the Fediverse. But I love the question. :-p
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Reddit took many years to build that reputation. And earned creepy badges along the way. I’m not saying the fediverse doesn’t need to do it, but let’s not be in a rush. We have technical challenges, and a lemmy.world, and a .ml problem before we’re ready for the big leagues
And being niche is fine for now, email was tiny for decades
What’s going on with lemmy.world?
It is lemmy essentially. By far most communities, users, and a single point of failure in essence. That makes is quite good for getting it technically correct however, the best kind of correct
Centralization issue. However, it can never be as bad as Reddit.
Depending on who you ask, a lot. Or very little.
For me today, though, it was the large downtime earlier. It’s big by Fediverse standards, microscopic by Reddit standards, and as-is it struggles to keep stable uptime some days.
Hi from piefed.social. we have alternatives to Lemmy world. We can literally go anywhere and talk. So let’s spread out and talk. Takes the load and responsibility off of one instance.
Transphobes iirc
Power mod problems
Idk if others remember, but Reddit had a LOT of technical challenges early on. Twitch was down constantly. YouTube was flaky early on. The technical part can be handled by those building the platforms and supporting the Fediverse. What can WE do RIGHT NOW? My thought is communicate, share, talk, empathize, listen, etc.
I want to create a beat making community and make it live, post pro tips and things I watch and learned but the problem is that I don’t have much time aside from work nowadays and so setting up that routine of making a community live is hard.
I think I should at least try tho
Absolutely! Or start having conversations in a current community and if enough are interested build a new community. I’ve been adding content to my little communities and even though they’re not very active I just keep posting. The founders of Reddit said they had multiple accounts and were acting like it was social until it took off. I’m not saying we got to that length, because I find that creepy, but we need that tenacity.
It’s crazy because I typed beatmaking into Lemmy and found a post I made a while ago :)) (because it’s so empty about this subject)
That’s ok! It happens. maybe fokls don’t know it exists! Are there other communities that align with beat making? Maybe start there and talk with folks there?
I’m currently creating it using the website and I feel so quirky trying to come up with the community title. I think I’m gonna keep it simple lol
EDIT: here it is, ([email protected] I need to make it look better tho
No I meant that positively: Lemmy doesn’t seem to know about music making yet :)) I’ve only found my content when typing into the search bar !
I need to create this :) Let me look how to do it with Voyager
I’ll say this, Owncast has quite a few streamers into music as well. A lot of folks looked for alternative music making platforms during Covid, because as Gabe Kangas told me, Twitch was cracking down while everyone was home. Maybe check there as well for a community?
That would be amazing, at the moment I feel a little down because I need to unlearn a lot of beginner things I did to progress and it’s very hard.
I’ve been stuck only making loop and no songs, so I gotta unlearn most of what I know and start again if I want to finish my songs.
So I’ll maybe go there to have some advice ehehe
Best way imo is to talk to folks. Find a mentor. Even folks I never thought would know about X had thoughts or suggestions. Hell my wife just helped me with a thumbnail and she’s not an artist, but she’s been doing school presentations and had massively useful constructive criticism. :-)
I am not sure about “the need to build knowledge” but i am liking the idea of communities of specific interest and expertise with the idea anyone can go discuss things with experts.
Saying knowledge is probably a poor phrase. Build community, building information, sharing likes and fears, sharing anything (within reason obvisouly), but SHARE. One of the reasons those places we consider toxic grow, is because that on standard channels that shit didn’t exist. Our stuff does, but it’s basically locked away in a matter of speaking. We have to rebuild it. And we do that by sharing and talking and listening and empathizing and trying new things and supporting each other.
I personally only ask when I can’t find anything on the internet, but that’s a good idea
Thanks and yeah ask and answer yourself if you must. Create Fedi Value. Share with all of us. Help a of us learn. :-).
I’ve made a conscious effort to start doing this in conversations in general instead of opening up a browser tab. Yeah, “just google it” is a thing, but asking is often enough if you’re not in a hurry, so why not?
Return to being social 🐒
I was thinking of a catching tag line instead of “just google it” I’m an uber nerd and would say “don’t search it! FEDIVERSE IT!” :-D
There are some questions I just honestly would like a few opinions on and/or discussion around and I certainly prefer to do those here and here from members of the federation.
Go for it. Don’t attempt to rebuild a community from scratch, or do, but you can post anywhere that’s relevant and if there’s interest build that community.
have already gone for it since I have been here and will continue to. I like the feedback I got on cholesterol medication. thats a good example because I don’t need technical info. I have a doctor and pharmacist. I just wanted to see what folks experiences were. I only got one or two real useful ones but hey man that is as good as your going to get from local friends and relatives.
