• @[email protected]
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    I live in Germany where people usually drive reasonably-sized cars. Something like a Škoda Karoq SUV is already considered unreasonably large.

    A while ago I saw someone drive a Ford F-150 past our house. That thing is almost 1m (~3 feet) longer and 30 cm (~1 foot) taller than those SUVs. In its smallest version. How the hell do Americans live like that?

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      Mate, every time I go into even small suburban areas I see people driving RAM pickups, G-Wagons and other enormous SUVs.

      This is a global problem, maybe it’s not as bad as it is in the US but it’s still there.

      • @[email protected]
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        71 month ago

        Yeah, I’m starting to see Dodge Rams and similar vehicles here in Germany, too. People are such assholes.

  • @[email protected]
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    291 month ago

    The last one is a significant concern. Huge trucks and SUVs are so prevalent and they’re so big it seems like the drivers aren’t as aware of their surroundings. I’d love to see us move to taxing based on vehicle weight/mileage since it’s the true measure of how much wear a vehicle puts on the roads. You want that insane Hummer EV? You’re paying 20x what the guy in a Civic is paying.

  • @[email protected]
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    One of the sadder reasons: I need a pickup but they stopped making small pickups in the 90’s.

      • @[email protected]
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        81 month ago

        Yeah I had the idea to buy a used one, but it’s such a risk especially since I know nothing about cars. It could develop issues days or weeks after purchase. It would be great if I already had one and it just kept chugging though. I wish your truck a long and healthy life

        • skulblaka
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          51 month ago

          Anybody who doesn’t let you bring the car to a mechanic for a pre purchase inspection is someone you don’t want to be buying a car from. Most car repair places will do one for you.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        I would do this if I could afford it. I was looking a few months ago and somebody locally had a ‘00 Ranger 5 speed 2 seater w/ ~150k mi for $5000 and an ‘01 S10 for $7000.

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          21 month ago

          I obviously don’t know your location but look at things like Nissan hardbodies/early frontiers or Mazda B3000s. The latter of which are literally just 90s Ford Rangers (Rangers were rebadged Mazdas)

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      You’re in luck (maybe?): Telo truck, Slate truck, or even the newer Ford Maverick. The first two aren’t in production yet, but Mavericks look like a great size.

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        I have actually had my eye on both the Telo and the Slate, very interesting concepts. I also appreciate the slightly smaller Maverick, but wish it had a bit more bed and/or a bit less cabin.

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        I can confirm that the Maverick is pretty much exactly the same size as a '90s Ranger, having parked my Ranger next to one before. The proportions are pretty different though, with the Maverick having a larger cab (four doors) and a proportionally smaller bed. A Maverick (and probably the other two you mentioned) would definitely be a good choice for people who think they need a truck for personal use.

        However, there is one problem with all of those vehicles, which is that none of them are actually trucks.

        You can tell the difference between a truck and a not-truck (a car-based “ute,” like an El Camino) by the fact that there’s no gap between the cab and the bed. Real trucks have body-on-frame construction, not a unibody, and can have the pickup bed replaced with custom flatbeds or utility beds or whatever.

        In some sense it often doesn’t matter because a unibody ute would fit most people’s needs just fine. Until you want to do actual truck stuff, and then it matters. For example, the Slate Truck is rated to tow 1000 lbs, the Maverick is rated for 2000 lbs (or 4000 with the tow package), and a '90s Ranger is rated for up to 6000 lbs. (Mine can’t do that – it’s an I-4 manual 4x4, which is the worst configuration for towing – but an appropriately-configured V6 automatic 2WD one can.)

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          11 month ago

          Isn’t the towing capacity based on engine and trans. How would the metal skeleton have a direct result on towing?

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          Telo supposedly will have a 1600 pound payload capacity and a 6600 pound towing capacity. They also advertise being able to fit a full 8x4 sheet of plywood with the tailgate up. It really looks like the truck I would want to buy if I ever decide to start a landscaping business. It’s also significantly more expensive than slate or a maverick.

          Source since I couldn’t find payload or towing capacity on their site: https://electrek.co/2025/03/06/hands-on-and-first-ride-in-telos-tiny-electric-truck-thats-as-big-as-a-mini/

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            It’s also significantly more expensive than slate or a maverick.

            Yeah, it seems like it’s in a different class than a Ranger/Maverick/Slate, at least in price if not size.

            It also seems like they’re still in the “throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks” part of the design phase, talking about things like the midgate and the storage tunnel under the bed that might double as a footwell for third-row seating. Between that and the almost-cabover design (which I kinda like, but which would be pretty unpopular among people who care about crumple zones) I’m pretty skeptical that the Telo “truck” will make it to production, especially while keeping all those promised features and specs intact.

            Edit: also also, I could be wrong, but I think there’s a point where towing capacity gets limited by how small the towing vehicle is in terms of weight and/or wheelbase, regardless of how strong its motor, brakes and frame might be. I’m a little concerned the Telo might be pushing that limit.

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              I agree that we’re in the “wait and see” phase with regards to what features make it into the production line. I hadn’t really considered those other limitations on towing, but it’s also not something I need to do on a regular basis currently.

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          Wait, seriously? A 1000lb towing capacity is just insane. If you threw a hitch on a Honda Civic, it would do better than that.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 month ago

      Don’t take this personal, I don’t know your specific situation but most people who claim they need a pickup don’t really need a pickup.

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        I actually have one! I was generously gifted a Ford E-Transit to transport my wheelchair-bound elderly mother. It’s all electric. It’s pretty heavy and unwieldy, but doesn’t have a massive horizontal profile like a lot of the common pickups these days. The van works great for this purpose, though it only has a 135 mile range. But that’s fine for going around the city. (I can’t park in parking garages though - it’s too tall.)

        Before I got this, I was trying to find a small truck or SUV to transport the wheelchair in and it was very hard to find something that was small, not falling apart, cheap, etc. I had almost given up.

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    CAFE standards base fleet fuel economy targets on wheelbase. It’s cheaper for manufacturers to produce large trucks and SUVs, which don’t have to meet as stringent a standard due to their large wheelbase.

    Those are also classified as light trucks, which means they don’t have to comply with the higher safety standards that “passenger cars” do, another reason they’re cheaper to produce.

    How do we sell those? Marketing to make people think they need them.

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      The government naively assumed the auto makers wouldn’t notice the gaping loophole in the CAFE standards and then did nothing while trucks grew to outlandish sizes.

  • @[email protected]
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    Did Jesus even want to not get caught? Im pretty sure a God cant be worse than a big car in any situation

  • TomMasz
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    My Subaru Forester is not a tiny SUV. I was parked between two pickup trucks the other day, and my roof was only slightly higher than their hoods. The Simpsons’ Canyonero is no longer a parody.

    • @[email protected]
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      141 month ago

      I drive an Outback. Have you seen the new 1999 Ford Explorer 2026 Outback? The things even Subaru is doing are, just, BLEH.

      • TomMasz
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        I have, and I’m disappointed. It was going to be my next Subaru, now I’m thinking Crosstrek, as long as it doesn’t get upsized.

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          Why not save 10k and get an Impreza instead? Literally the same car with less LARPing plastic cladding and a lift that kills mpg

  • @[email protected]
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    My local roads are shit, the SUV prevents me damaging my vehicle in all the potholes / construction zones.

    I would totally rock a Slate, though.

  • themeatbridge
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    There’s one big one missing, no viable public transit options. America has half a rail system and a tenth of the bussing it actually needs. We’re blessed and cursed with an abundance of space, and we sprawled out across the land on the assumption that everyone would have a car.

    There isn’t an easy fix. It’s not just a matter of adding more busses, it’s where and how people live and work. It’s how highways and neighborhoods are laid out. I’m fortunate to live close to a rail hub, but I still have to drive there from my house, and I would need a car at any destination. We don’t even have sidewalks or bike lanes between here and there.

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      Even where there is viable public transport, there’s a stigma against using it. The city I live in has a decent and cheap Metro system. It’s reasonably clean, mostly runs on time, and you only have to deal with the occasional crazy. I took it for a summer after a car got totaled and it was fine.

      Yet I work with a bunch of impoverished young people who spend $30-$40 on Ubers every day getting to work. I’ve suggested taking the bus to many of them, there’s even a stop right outside our workplace, and they are always dismissive and disgusted by the idea.

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        Speaking as a woman, who works in a dock industrial district, while I could take the bus to work, I often work the late shift, and I really don’t want to be waiting at a bus stop at night in that area.

        There’s the added fun that the bus stops running close to my work after a certain hour, so to catch the late bus I’d have to walk almost the full length of the industrial area. Alone.

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        A reasonable question, but I wouldn’t be able to fit my family in the Skoda. I know, I’ve tried. Getting two kids, two dogs, and the associated accoutrements around town just isn’t possible in a hatchback. The Minivan is an attractive option, but the hills and snowy winters in my neck of the woods suggest an AWD vehicle. The smallest car I considered was the Subaru Outback, and even that’s not particularly compact.

        If we had viable public transit options, things would be different. We could travel via train on vacations, or take the bus about town for errands and appointments. If we had sidewalks and bike lanes, we could take advantage of good weather and get a little exercise to boot. We would probably still own a large car, but we would drive it less.

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          That’s ok, I looked up one of the smallest 4-door european cars vs one of the largest US ones, this is the worst case scenario :) still funny, though.

  • @[email protected]
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    Who was Thorstein Veblen

    pecuniary emulation drives consumers to spend more on displays of wealth and status symbols, as opposed to more useful commodities.

    aka, Keeping Up With The Joneses, Conspicuous Consumption.