Memes quickly assembled in Gimp should be sitting on a throne considering the skills required
Because they are
“No corporations were enriched by the creation of this content”
It’s not just that. If it was, I’d have been convinced by the new-era freedom fighters using fucking ai horde, or whatever sloppers call their latest open-source [citation needed] model instance.
The biggest issue is the shameless, continuous abuse of creative workers by sucking up all their works without consent.
I’ve always seen the anti-AI movement as pro-corporation. It’s mostly for the benefit of the copyright industry while its already quite easy to decouple yourself from the corporate aspects of AI with its open source options.
that implies it’s the corporations that make art. the idea of art coming from corps is already a gross injustice to artists, but at least they can get paid a little. to take away what they do entirely for something that literally only remixes existing art from past and present artists is one of the darkest things we’re coming to accept in our late stage capitalist society.
we simply do not want artists anymore. we’d rather the machines preform every task that’s worth doing so that we can all go slave away at manual labor as human labor continues to get cheaper than machines.
Chatbots: Fuck you
Image AI: Fuck you
Partially use of AI in complex film productions etc: Fine
Plant recognition: You’re cool
Surveillance AI: Fuck you
Scientific use of machine learning: Great!
Commercial AI in general: And fuck you, I’m out!
AI for subtitles: You’ve been a long way but now you’re cool
I use AI solely for writing little scripts to automate the boring stuff with python. Sometimes with a bash script, but I’m far less comfortable with those.
Data analysis and forecasting chaotic systems too complex for brute force numerical hijinks are great applications for neural networks. One dude I saw was doing his PhD on nowcasting (weather forecasts of the very short term (10 to 90 min. range) showers and thunderstorms with neural networks. Interesting stuff.
The average anti-ai zealot only know about Diffusion and Large Language models because they once used ChatGPT for 15 minutes, read some memes and are now an expert on how AI is ruining society.
To be fair, the sloppier side of AI has a much more direct effect on society than niche scientific and engineering applications, but I get what you’re after.
Oh yeah, most people see AI as ‘the thing that has made search completely unusable’ and not ‘The thing that has solved protein folding’.
It’s like the Internet is full of cavemen who are screaming and throwing rocks at a fire while, elsewhere, others are building jet turbines and combustion engines.
Plus we’ve had that shit in research since I was in grad school over a decade ago. People acting like machine learning is new. Smh
Chatbots: Fuck you
Really? Honestly it’s the most innocent use if you’re not the kind of person to get hooked on them
Image AI: Fuck you
I get why people have this harsh stance, but without my locally-hosted AI doing concept work for me then my avatar as you see it here wouldn’t exist nor would an artist be considerably more wealthy than they were before I commissioned them. I get that I’m in the minority by a wide margin, but people like me exist in decent amounts too
Commercial AI in general: And fuck you, I’m out!
Yeah, commercial AI is the problem. I cannot begin to understand being upset at someone running it locally and not for profit though, which happens a lot
ETA: Case in point - the dipshits who downvoted me for this. Good job not using y’all’s brains
Chatbots, as they currently exist, are extremely concerning, especially in regards to their use by children and teenagers. Chatbots have neither ethics nor rational thought, and as such they can’t tell right from wrong, nor true from false. Meanwhile, kids and teens are still learning what’s reality and what isn’t, meaning that a realistic, ever-confident bot without any ethical or logical understanding can easily lead them astray. There’s already been one kid who killed himself because a realistic chatbot goaded him on.
That’s already happening today, without any human oversight or guidance over the specific content on LLMs. But that may not be the case forever - consider that if AI chatbots are already that influential, how long until companies find a way to get their own products promoted by them?
Advertisers study the fine art of manipulation, they know the power of a personal story or recommendation from a friend. Until now, if they wanted that, they’ve had to either create a product/experience that generates word-of-mouth praise, or else incentivize people to generate such praise (ie “influencers.”) But now, there’s this technology that is able to fake being someone’s friend, that plenty of people will trust wholeheartedly. That’s a system that’s ripe for corruption. Add in that Republicans are trying to ban the regulation of AI and it becomes clear - this technology will be abused. I’d even go so far as to say that it was intended to be used to manipulate people all along.
I agree, locally hosted AI tools for image or text generation don’t use lots of power, only do what a user wants and not what a corp wants, and are a valid hobby or working tool. It’s sad that so many people are blinded by their hate towards corporate AI and don’t differentiate.
I am a terrible artist, but if i need a quick picture for a presentation or just a new desktop background, i sure as shit would never commission something but would just go without if there’s nothing with a CC license that fits. Today i have the possibility to get exactly what i want, and not one byte gets transferred outside of my home network, There is no lost sale for any artists, and i still have something that is aesthetically pleasing.
Same with chatbots - i mainly use them as a quick reference for commands when i don’t want to read 15 screens worth of man pages or when i am again stuck creating a RegEx.
can “AI” (it’s an LLM) actually create “memes”? it isn’t capable of generating new ideas or opinions, and i thought that was what memes are all about.
I just asked my local installation of llama 3.1 and here’s what it came up with. You tell me. Is this an original thought?
llama3.1:latest 10:15 am
The elusive goal of creating a meme that becomes internet gold. Here’s a concept I’d like to propose:
Meme Name: “Lost in the Fold”
Image Description: A playful, surrealist illustration featuring a person (usually a cartoon character or a relatable Everyman) sitting on a couch or bed with their laptop open in front of them. However, instead of being focused on their screen, they’re utterly absorbed by a single page they’ve printed out from Google Docs and are now folding it into the most complex origami designs possible.
The Twist: The person’s face is contorted in an expression of intense concentration, while their laptop screen displays various tabs open to things like “Cat videos,” “Reddit r/funny,” or “Instagram.” Meanwhile, the folded paper begins to take on a life of its own, as if it’s being manipulated by an invisible force. The folds grow more intricate and absurd, resembling a miniature cityscape or even a functioning mechanical device.
Caption Ideas:
When you're trying to get work done but your brain keeps folding into the abyss. I spent 3 hours folding this paper and now it's judging me Currently stuck in an origami rabbit holeWhy it’ll go viral: This meme taps into several aspects of internet culture that are sure to resonate with audiences:
Relatability : Who hasn't stared at a blank page or screen, unsure where to begin or how to focus? Absurdity : The image's surreal quality and the ridiculousness of folding paper into impossible shapes will provide endless fodder for humor and creativity. Nostalgia : Many people who grew up with Google Docs will remember printing out pages and attempting (or failing) to fold them into intricate designs, making this meme a nostalgic throwback.Variations:
Users can create their own custom illustrations featuring themselves or favorite characters lost in the fold. The image can be modified to incorporate various themes, such as folding paper into actual working machines or creating miniature worlds within the folds. The meme can evolve to include humorous explanations for why the person is folding the paper (e.g., "I'm trying to create a portal to another dimension," or "I'm making a origami shrine to my productivity gods").There you have it! Will “Lost in the Fold” become the next big meme sensation? Only time will tell, but I hope this concept inspires some creativity and gets shared far and wide.
Can you fucking not?
you’re wasting your time. i’m not going to read that tripe.
Actually it wastes very little of his time compared to the time wasted by people that would try to read it. That’s precisely one of the most frustrating things about LLM, easy to flood a reader, no easier nor more interesting than the short prompt used to make it would have been instead to read.
ah, you said the word of the day: “flood”.
edit - i should expound. there’s a pretty obvious move happening right now in ameraica. american press are like flies to money, and your new despot knows this.
edit - you’ll be lost forever to the rest of the world if “parade day” goes off without a hitch.
Sophistry. Reduce everything to the most technically accurate description if you like – slop will still be slop.
amen
No one is using it to generate the memes. Its being used to create a visual representation of an idea. The idea comes from the user in this case as well. It’s a tool (although with a lot more ethical baggage) just like ms paint.
ooh, rub that rub! it’s a TOOL. the issue arises when these so-called “AI” companies start talking like their product isn’t just autocomplete + cocaine.
“Memes generated by a prompted LLM” doesn’t quite have the same ring.
i want to know what people are trying to use as prompts to generate ai “memes”. they’re probably really embarrassing.
portrait of a cartoon man squinting his eyes skeptically at the camera. Text at the top that says, "NOT SURE IF AI MEMES ARE A THING"
great, so it just assumed you wanted to rip off matt groening. he must be thrilled.
The AI is “smart” enough to get by context what he’s asking for, in much the same way we believe humans do
He asked for a meme of a man squinting, anyone familiar with meme culture is gonna think of Fry & Professor Chang first, and context of “not sure if” gives the game away that it’s the Fry meme
That part is what makes AI actually interesting as a technology, homie
Well, I was on my phone at the time and that’s what ChatGPT generated. Here’s what FLUX Dev generated (locally on my PC):
my fury intensifies
but thanks the exchange. for now
op calling me out:
me:
Sometimes I use reaction gifs.
Also sometimes I use a photo editor on my phone.
I sometimes will get a bunch of people to help gaslight someone else that they don’t exist
I use “photo editor” on android. Free, no frills, no ad’s, works decently. It has a lot of cool features. I just wish the layering was better.
Every single other free photo editor was bullshit.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iudesk.android.photo.editor
I used it to make/ edit this:
Now we’re taking the bilingual maimai-train too?
C’est pas le premiere moimoi j’ai fait des poteaux bilingual avec.
GIMP is not low effort. If you can ‘quickly assemble’ memes, it’s because of previous effort. (I’m studying to be someone who can quickly assemble memes in GIMP)
That program has a unique UI philosophy. Does it resemble Photoshop? I’ve never used that.
Never used Photoshop either but from the way everyone and their mother compares it to GIMP when complaining about the UI, I think it’s safe to say GIMP sucks in that regard.
I’m not gonna lie, the few times I’ve used GIMP to crop a picture, I felt lost as hell.
GIMP feels like it’s still in the stage of being extremely powerful but awkward as heck to wield, like Blender used to be. Blender used to have a pretty unintuitive interface before getting a massive overhaul a few years back. GIMP could use a similar facelift IMO.
Drag never got truly proficient with Photoshop. Drag took a class on Photoshop in high school and did well, but then forgot everything. The workflows never became natural.
Drag has made dozens of memes in GIMP and really understands the design philosophy. It feels simple and intuitive. Drag wouldn’t want them to change everything and make it like Photoshop. Then drag would have to learn it all over again. No thanks.
Different apps should just be different apps. The goal isn’t to get every system to have the same UI. There should be room for creativity and thinking differently in the design space.
Gimp 3.0 is finally actually something you could use to make something quickly
It still makes some baffling decisions (seriously I fucking hate that deselect is CTRL+SHIFT+D and not CTRL+D. I get why, shift is the “opposite” modifier, but GIMP is the only software I use that does this) and isn’t perfect, but for meme making and general Internet use it’s probably at long-last ready
Pretty strong reaction to the equivalent of a paint mixer for text…
I’ll take your shittiest MS Paint meme over your finest AI design.
I want the human element!
ghost in a meat suit
How about this?
could be NSFL, if you're like 8
C’est pour mourirIf she put her hand out the window, would he fall out the car?
So… you don’t buy fast food?
Memes != food.
But that’s all you’ve got. Is a thought. There’s no ingenuity or creativity behind it. It’s soulless. Like a stoner friend who has a great idea for a book but never writes that book.
Imagine believing this.
I’ve literally seen that argument repeated almost verbatim in so many comment sections AND in real life
Like, I can understand why people don’t like AI, but the memes fuckin accurate
The err… “argument” if you even want to call what I said that, can still hold true even if it’s been written verbatim before.
I didn’t say that wasn’t true, but if it’s the go-to phrase of the masses then it’s accurate to put it in an NPC meme. People who dislike AI but don’t understand the tech enough to actually understand why usually give that answer, whereas people with actual knowledge on the subject tend to put more nuance into even their shorter replies on the topic
I dislike AI because it produces slop, not because it can’t be original.
Yeah, the more people say something, the less true it becomes. Good facts die inside an individual mind without ever being shared.
More like, people say thing for a lot of reasons:
Unironically stealing this. Thanks.
I AI generated it, enjoy your moral quandary
It’s going to be harder than that to give me a moral quandary. That being said what ai does this? It has jpeg artifacts where the face is from the lines that were added in some sort of photo editing program?
It’s copying the artistic style of a popular 4chan artist. Those are generated jpeg artifacts, which are worse than the regular jpeg artifacts.
lmao so true
👑Memes hand drawn in crayon
The crayon scribbles of my 3 year old nephew on the back of a soggy napkin holds more value than a mountain of AI slop.
You forgot the biggest one:
Made with Memetic
Memetic is actually pretty solid
