• @[email protected]
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    1 month ago

    No, not really. Americans have a majority of their voting population that are racists, sexists, etc. If you didn’t vote at all (and could), you’re just as much to blame as the one voting for Trump.

  • @[email protected]
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    21 month ago

    You could look at the world as somewhat of one nation. Because it’s all controlled by the same trans international elite. So if I’m a politician and I want to push through my agenda, but I’m not going to go through traditional channels, there are avenues that I can take. Just like you use a VPN, a politician might use the intelligence department of another country. So when everybody gets all hard, dicked when it comes to Russia, I wouldn’t look too much into that. Other than the left and right paradigm is fighting amongst each other for their own ability to exploit us even further and promote their imperialist goals. Neoliberalism is a right-wing ideology and the Republicans which are just empty vessels of just exponential gain are really filling the void of the capitalist dysfunction which is leading to traditional values, going back in time and populism.

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    501 month ago

    They went down without a fight and that’s what surprised me most. Not a single legal case or even someone complaining on tv. Just went away, backed into the hedge.

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      31 month ago

      Yup. I created a narrative that the d’s gave up because they believe that this would be the only way to get the r’s onboard with basic stuff like universal healthcare. Otherwise they’d riot like they did on 1/6. But… the d party hasn’t changed strategy and they’re a geriatric unit who refuses to step aside for the future of the nation. So now my narrative is that they’re unprepared and don’t care. They’ll benefit financially from this dictatorship and that’s all they care about anyway.

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      I’m pretty well convinced that all the ‘stop the steal’ shit in 2020 was to give us all media fatigue for when it actually happened in 2024.

      It worked -_-.

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        21 month ago

        and also to prevent democrats from calling it rigged, because now republicans can say “see dems are saying its rigged when we won as well” thats why the Ds dont want to investigate too. of course many in the DNC are complicit as well, theres no way they wernt aware of teh rigging days, weeks, hours ahead of the elections.

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        I really don’t think it was planned that way, but it surely helped them. Remember: with Republican double standards, every accusation is a confession.

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        71 month ago

        Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. It’s what they do, they come out beforehand and accuse the others of doing stuff, normalising the words and watering them down so that they’re used against them it just gets shrugged off.

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    Writing down conspiracies like these makes you sound exactly like the guy you’re saying you hate. Democrats lost. It happens. But now going around talking about how it was rigged? It removes credibility.

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      No no, it was the leftists! The solution is to pin absolutely all of the blame on anyone who ever said anything critical of Harris and/or Biden! Then we just have to run the exact same play in three years and we’re bound to win.

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    Heres a crazy radical idea that will truly shock you, maybe (just maybe) Kamala lost because of a combination of her campaign being a complete disaster and republicans owning the media. Also Kamala trying to win the Republican vote and it statistically not working, all it did was convince democrats to stay home.

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    No idea if any of this is true and if, how much impact it actually had. But we are well past that point, you really voted a felon, tons of people still(!!!) love him. Deal with him now, for the sake of everyone.

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    The rigging was mostly done on the TV screen via propaganda, not the ballot box.

    Is it really hard to believe people are just stupid and elected a traitor? The see prices go up and immediately blame the incumbent. The anti-incumbency effect happened around the world, not just a US thing.

    States run elections. Blue states also shifted red by double digits. Are you suggesting republicans can somehow rig blue state elections without anyone raising alarms?

    People just are afraid, and with fear, they look for a strongman that makes good sounding promises, no matter how ridiculous they are. (although its funny that people still view trump as a “strongman” dude is old and fragile)

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      Republicans have decades of experience in shifting elections in their favor by means other than convincing voters. It really isn’t unlikely. The USA should look into it. But the sort of sourceless and predigested meme OP posted is worse than useless here.

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    That Democrats had record turnout

    According to Ballotpedia, in 2024 ~63.9% of the eligible US voting population (older than 18, US citizen, resident of voting jurisdiction) turned out to vote (registered & casted a ballot) or ~155 mn people. This means ~36.1% didn’t turn out, or ~88 mn people out of the ~243 mn total eligible population. In 2020, the turnout rate was ~66.6% or ~158 mn, meaning ~33.4% or ~79 mn didn’t vote out of the ~238 mn total eligible population.

    According again to Ballotpedia, ~77 mn voted R in 2024 (~49.8% of the voting population or ~31.8% of the total eligible population), ~75 mn voted D (~48.3% of the voting population or ~30.8% of the total eligible population), and ~3 mn voted 3rd party (~1.9% of the voting population or ~1.2% of the total eligible population).

    In 2020, ~81 mn voted D (~51.3% of the voting population or ~34.2% of the total population), ~74 mn voted R (~46.9% of the voting population or ~31.2% of the total eligible population), and ~3 mn voted 3rd party (~1.8% of the voting population or ~1.2% of the total eligible population).

    Democrats lost ~6 mn voters from 2020 to 2024 after looking at the above three sources, despite the voting population decreasing by ~3 mn and the eligible population increasing by ~5 mn. This implies that they did not have record turnout if you compare to 2020, also implying 2020 was more of a “record” turnout compared to 2024.

    & record voter registration

    Regarding voting registration, Ballotpedia haven’t posted data from 2024 or 2020, instead sharing 2022 information (which is biased since most people don’t vote in off-General Election years). The US Census Bureau have gathered this information however:

    According to the US Census Bureau, in 2024 the total eligible voting population (older than 18, US citizen, assumed resident of voting jurisdiction) was ~236 mn, the total registered population was ~174 mn (~73.6% of total eligible population), and the total voting population was ~154 mn (~65.3% of the total eligible population). Comparing registered to voting populations, ~154 mn voted out of ~174 mn registered (~88.8%), while ~20 mn did not vote (~11.2%).

    In 2020, the US Census Bureau reports that the total eligible voting population was ~232 mn, the total registered population was ~168 mn (~72.7% of the total eligible population), and the total voting population was ~155 mn (~66.8% of the total eligible population). Comparing registered to voting populations, ~155 mn voted out of ~168 mn registered (~91.9%), while ~14 mn did not vote (~8.1%).

    What the above 2 sources show is that more people were eligible and registered to vote in 2024 compared to 2020, but less people actually voted in that same time frame, both in absolute (~154 vs ~155 mn) and relative (~88.8% vs ~91.9%) terms. This could imply that Democrats didn’t receive “record” registration, but the US Census Bureau doesn’t gather party affiliation in their registration data.

    Ballotpedia does collect this, and says that only 30 states allowed voting registrants to list their party affiliation on their registration AND made this information public. The other 20 states and DC might have allowed this information to be collected, but didn’t make such data public, or didn’t collect this information to begin with.

    The numbers Ballotpedia report are that in March 2024, ~118 mn people registered in 30 states, ~45 mn registered D (~38.3%), ~36 mn registered R (~30.3%), and ~37 mn registered 3rd party (~31.4%). Ballotpedia doesn’t have registration data for 2020 (nor for 2019 or 2018), but does have 2021. For June of that year, ~125 mn people registered in 31 states, ~49 mn registered D (~39.6%), ~36 mn registered R (~29.2%), and ~39 mn registered 3rd party (~31.2%).

    This data is likely biased because it was collected in March of 2024 and June of 2021, times of the year and of election cycles where people aren’t as engaged in politics as around times of the year/election cycles closer to General Elections. It does indicate that Democrats received above average registration numbers, but that the registration numbers were more “record” in 2020 than in 2024. We don’t have data for every state though, so really this finding is inconclusive.

    20 million less Democrats voted

    Like I said above, ~6 mn less Democrats voted in 2024 over 2020, not 20 mn.

    Where is the evidence for the “record turnout”? Where is the evidence for the “record voter registration”? Where is the evidence of the “20 million more Democrats”?

    From what evidence I can find, Democrats had lower turnout, lower registrations, and less votes in 2024 than 2020.

    The lack of analysis of voting data in this post leads me to believe that the other information and claims are suspect. Seems more like a narrative is being pushed than fact.