Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.

  • @Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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    It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.

    • @unphazed@lemmy.world
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      With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he’s sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.

    • @AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works
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      I’m not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren’t releasing the information.

      • @mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I mean, we know his health report was a sham. The dude reported that Trump only has like 5% body fat. Even the most shredded body builders struggle to hit 5%.

      • @DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        He won’t ever get cancer or get sick or catch a disease. He will be “poisoned by the radical left” and Maggots will say “they’ve gone too far” and calls to ban the party from the shithole MAGAs will come out along the words “treason” being thrown out there.

        If he goes the fuck away from old age (which is more likely based on how reality works) he will be “assassinated.”

        No matter how his end will be, there will be calls to prosecute and execute “traitors responsible.” If he does become president for life the “traitor” will be coincidentally the candidate on the opposing party. That’s if by that point if we even have elections a anymore. He could be geriatric in a fucking wheelchair and they will say this mark my words.

        Because they know after trump they will be utterly fucked to legally be elected back to power. (At least I hope)

    • @CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe
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      Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize…there is an easy to remember true statistic – 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That’s 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it’s simply not an issue, really, you’ll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.

      It’s good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.

      • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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        its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the “slow growing ones”. even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer

        • @CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe
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          21 month ago

          Understood. Yeah my post was more of a PSA, baking general knowledge into people’s brains. Everybody freaks out when they hear the word “cancer”, and they should know…prostate cancer in old men is different. But this one is aggressive & mutating & it’s metastasized into the bones, etc.

      • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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        I know it’s possible, but I also get the impression he’s going to outlive all of us somehow.

      • Hildegarde
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        101 month ago

        yes, but for most of those men it’s a cancer they die with, rather than one they die from.

      • @andybytes@programming.dev
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        11 month ago

        What if I stick my finger up my ass? Can I check it myself? Cause I just can’t afford the doctor bill. I heard about the guy that took out his own appendix. I feel like this is a little bit less invasive and a little kinky. What do you think?

      • @nelly_man@lemmy.world
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        It has already metastasized in his bones, so it’s much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it’s also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I’m assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I’m not a medical professional, so I can’t say how valid this assumption is.

        • @andybytes@programming.dev
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          31 month ago

          Do you think Trump will just be cheezing. Do you think that the cheeseburger king could keep his mouth shut about it? Or will he just be so tacky? We are such a trashy country. It’s so funny and scary.

          • @CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe
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            Trump has already issued a generic sympathy statement, “Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.”

    • @Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Both of them are going to be on the elevator down when their time comes.

      Their only chance is in making something nearly impossible happen so that their destination is frozen over when they get there.

      • @dan00@lemm.ee
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        Who the fuck talked about trump in this post? Why do we always need to say “oh yes but Hitler was worse” Yea, no shit sherlock. God damn.

      • @pivot_root@lemmy.world
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        To conservatives, “handling” a region where the population is a different skin color and religion is removing it. So—if you asked Trump’s supporters, you would get an enthusiastic “yes” as a response.

  • @BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world
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    Maybe I’m cynical but I feel like this is suspicious timing to release this information a day after videos of his memory issues in 2023 surfaced. Feels like a cynical attempt by his PR team to change the narrative.

    In all honesty, an 82 year old man having prostate cancer is not very surprising. It is a personal issue and I have sympathy but it’s frankly not important to the world. A US president with memory issues concealed from voters and his own party in 2023 when it could have seriously changed decisions about the Democratic party nominations is surprising. That is an issue for everyone and very important to the world.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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      Biden’s PR team trying to change the topic about his health and his track record? Unheard of!

      But yeah it’s not a shock an old man has a form of cancer that affects men more as they age.

      Shame Trump hasn’t had something similar.

      • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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        It’s not just Biden s team. Its the entire media consent apparatus build around the DNC that was responsible for Biden being around as long as he was.

        They’re all culpable.

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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          And then people were mad about “why are they talking about Biden when Trump is unhealthy?!”

          Maybe we don’t want either unhealthy presidents, and only one side would listen to public outcry, and the other wouldn’t listen.

          God damn, America is just fucked. Actual criticism was called unfair, and actual evidence of documented crimes of domestic and abroad was considered things paid for by $BAD_NATION.

          I am a bit salty that one of my favorite people on .world was banned from this community due to a mod getting mad at them refusing to support genocide and proving they voted for Harris.

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    Since this is an opportunity to educate people about health, I will not discuss politics here. :)

    • If you’re a guy, your urinary tract is stupidly complicated from a medical viewpoint and there’s a prostate beneath the bladder which hydrogenates testosterone (T is produced by the brain) into dihydrotestosterone, produces fluid to mix the seminal fluid with, and generally supports fertility and gender specific phenotype.

    • With progressing age, the prostate enlarges, gets infected with HPV (nearly everyone gets it) and may get bacterial infections (typical ones are E. coli). It may also develop calcinations.

    • Risk is reduced if you live in Asia and eat a traditional menu containing much soy bean products which enables guys in those regions to enjoy several times less prostate cancer.

    • Risk is increased with nearly every urinary tract infection, especially if not conclusively diagnosed and treated.

    • After the age of 40, regularly have PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured from a blood test. It tells how much disintegration and immune reaction is occurring down there.

    • Regularly have ultrasound check-ups done. If there are UTI symptoms, treatment must not occur blindly, but must be followed by observation.

    • If you are young and your home country has medical insurance that covers HPV vaccination, get it while it’s free (because it costs 150 € a dose). If you’re rich enough, there may be a point in getting it later too, especially if you’ve not had unsafe sex (it doesn’t protect after infection). The majority of people get HPV during their lives and approximately 9 strains cause cervical cancer in women and raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. By getting vaccinated against HPV, you protect both yourself and your partners from drawing a ticket in a quite nasty lottery.

    • As long as prostate cancer is androgen dependent, it can be suppressed with an androgen blockade.

  • @altphoto@lemmy.today
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    This morning while driving to work I heard on NPR that doctors recommend screenings for people between 50 and 60 years of age. The guy said that older people like 70’s and 80’s have more problems and I missed exactly what the reasoning other than aggravating them with one more problem was for not screening that group actively.

    But you and I know. Its simple! 50 and 60 year olds are still working do they got money. 80 year olds don’t have money. No reason to screen them. Sure the treatments work…kinda sorta. But the treatments are expensive. So if you’re 80 its not important that they find your cancer because they can’t make money from you. If you’re well to do, then sure, we can try our methods. But if you got no money, there’s no point. What are you going to do anyway with no job and no money. Even if you could pay, then what? Sell the car and house and live on the streets? Would that be worse? Not really the doctors don’t care if they got paid. Its all about the money.

  • @Vari@lemm.ee
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    551 month ago

    Lucky for him he’ll get the best medical treatment on the planet. Meanwhile if I broke a leg I’d be destitute

    • @threeduck@aussie.zone
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      Why tf do Americans reward America with their skills and education? The captain of your sinking country is throwing citizens overboard, and you remain in line? Move!?

      • @NewSocialWhoDis@lemm.ee
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        121 month ago

        I am trying to talk my husband into moving. I can probably land the job in the EU I am interviewing for, but he does NOT want to move. He doesn’t want to leave the small amount of community we have. He doesn’t want to overreact in fear to this administration. He doesn’t want to give up our home and our lifestyle (the EU pays substantially less across many industries). Our parents are getting older and sicker; it’s hard to move abroad when you know there’s probably only a handful of years left with them, especially when you have children.

        I think the Internet discounts how difficult it can be to uproot.

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          How good is your marriage? You only have one life. I might leave his ass. The kids will be more well-rounded. Life is a journey. Fuck and live it, lady.

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            I was trying to present his concerns as being relatable; I don’t think he’s unreasonable.

            Marriage is pretty good. He’s a good partner, a very moral person, and a great, involved father.

            I think I’d rather die in a concentration camp than break up my family… At least, if I knew my kids would be okay. I don’t think it’s likely I’d be able to take my kids overseas with me if I left him over it anyway.

      • @Azal@pawb.social
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        The captain of your sinking country is throwing citizens overboard, and you remain in line? Move!?

        Hahahahahahaha… you sound like one of our republicans.

        I work as a biomed, a sector of repairing medical equipment that is a sought after career field, desperately needed. Been doing it for five years, and I like to think I’m damn good at my job.

        I also only have an associates degree.

        There are not many countries that will take me with only that associates degree. It’s like I tell conservatives who do the “Don’t like it, move”, being from the US isn’t some special wonderful status that gets us open doors into other countries. Other countries don’t want us like the Republicans don’t want foreigners from other countries, unless they’re wealthy.

        • @13igTyme@lemmy.world
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          Biomed isn’t really a sought after career. Most people outside of the medical community don’t even know it exists. The last hospital I worked at was starting a teenage volunteer program and surveyed high school and college kids. 60% thought only doctors and nurses worked at hospitals.

          • @Azal@pawb.social
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            By sought after I mean the hospitals searching for us. As you say, my hospital is bringing in high schoolers to intern because the industry basically has no pipeline for workers because most of the old guard are still there but retiring and/or dying off so suddenly there’s a massive lack in a very tiny pool caused by it basically not being advertised until very recently.

      • @muusemuuse@lemm.ee
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        Skills and education? Most Americans have neither of those things. We are a disposable people and that’s exactly what the corporate slaveowners want. We can’t escape because we are less valuable to other countries which means it’s easier to exploit us. What are we going to do about it, kill our masters? That’s not nice.

      • @ZeffSyde@lemmy.world
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        Outside of a few essentially third world countries that I could save up a few grand and bribe my way into, there really aren’t any countries that are too keen on accepting Usians for citizenship. You might have better luck if you have a doctorate and speak the local language fluently.

        I had a buddy that expatriated to South Korea years ago to teach English, but I think last time I checked in he was still juggling work visas and had no real chance of being a citizen.

        I could be wrong though, I haven’t checked in on him in a while.

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        “Move?!”

        You make it sound like moving houses. Just pack your shit and drive off. Most countries don’t want us, especially if someone wasn’t born lucky enough to be able to go to college, and has some formal education. Even if that was easy, it’s fucking EXPENSIVE. thousands of dollars. A lot of us are barely getting by, and a lot more don’t have the luxury of spending thousands to go to another country. And all that, to move to a place where you won’t have citizenship without lots of work, and hell, If facism takes over that country I’ll get kicked out. Not to mention leaving my entire family behind.

        All this assumes I’m moving to an English speaking country, otherwise I’ll have a language barrier at the same time I’m trying to rebuild my entire existence in a new place with unfamiliar culture.

        There’s probably so much more. It’s not impossible, but for me it’s not feasible at this time. I desperately wish it was.

        Edit: sorry if I came off as a dick here, it’s just frustrating seeing the thing I want so bad (to leave) simplified so much. Especially if you didn’t grow up here.

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            Well, the real issue is flooding refugees in Europe was an attempt to bleed the social services because the Yankee is trying to destroy Europe’s social safety net via Imperialist Ambitions. Through nefarious tactics, the neo-liberals actually do a tango with the other parties playing the public and getting them to fight with each other and blame it on immigrants instead of mismanagement and corruption. it makes the usa look bad and it’s never more obvious than when the United States cut the gas line from Russia to Germany. The Yankee is a bad friend. And you are a short-sighted racist. It’s not about being politically correct. It’s about understanding the class war and not being an idiot. Trump is such a moron. He is making it so Europe at least the people to despise the American government, which in a way is a good thing because it’s not in their best interest to side with us. And part of the reason why Europe doesn’t want our meat is because they got their own goddamn meat. And so when we force them to use our weapons, they just say, well, we’ll build our own weapons. And once again, we’ll be less needed.

        • @andybytes@programming.dev
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          Don’t give up. You can still do it. I don’t think the foreigners hate you. The hate the ones that can do it so easily. I believe in you.

        • @Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          I feel you, I’ve gone through similar problems but from the other side of the world. In case if you need advice:

          Consider eastern europe. From what I know, you’ll have 3 months-visa free, that’s more than enough to find a job in a big city even without any kind of connections. All you need is moving expenses and a few months of rent, and you’ll have a very good chances of getting into some kind of residency program (do research your options in advance)

          The language barrier will be a thing, but english will get you into many doors if you choose a big city. You can work on your language afterwards.

          You’ll fail a lot, it will be very stressful, you will be outsider in the eyes of many, but trust me your chances are much bigger than some people I know that have done a similar thing and succeeded. And after you succeed (and you will, if you try and don’t give up) the understanding that government’s power over you is not absolute will stay with you forever.

          All that said: I’m not saying you need to leave. I’m just saying that you can.

        • @null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          I feel you.

          I’m in Australia. If we turned fascist I would want to move but the logistics of doing that are very challenging.

          • @andybytes@programming.dev
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            Well, we’re all capitalist countries and fascism is just capitalism in crisis. Populism comes to rise in failing economies that do not prepare for the future… I think the real issue is Quality of life and violence, we in America are constantly exposed to anti-social behavior, homelessness and guns. Within the past like I don’t know three years. I’ve been around three incidents with a firearm I had nothing to do with it, but I was in danger. I just think about all the nonsense that goes on in America and just all I can think about is me possibly having to pay a medical bill. I am a low-risk individual who is incredibly non-committal, subscription-free kind of individual.

            once it starts happening to you, you know, you start to realize that we’re not in Kansas anymore.

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          America is pretty much the only country in the world that has ever accepted the tired, the poor, and the huddled masses.

          No other country will accept a bunch of poor anyones with no money, bad health, and no unique and valuable skills. Not in any significant numbers that matter, at least.

          and thousands? moving to another country would take hundreds of thousands, minimum. The paperwork alone for moving to, and getting citizenship in the destination country would probably require a hundred thousand alone, between lawyers and paperwork, not to mention probably a year minimum of time. Assuming you would even get that far to begin with, given Americas reputation on the world stage at the moment. It’d probably be treated as well as Russians wanting to immigrate.

          Hell, even moving to another state is an expense most americans can not afford. Especially with the absurdity of rent prices being, in some places, as much as monthy minimum wage is, if not higher. Not to mention buying grossly price-inflated properties if you want to go the ownership route… anything that would be affordable will probably still need massive amounts of work to repair and make suitable for habitation.

          S’why it pisses me off every time when some ignorant dumbass just goes " well if you don’t like it, move! ", cause I can imagine everyone that says that probably has rich parents that have funded their every whim, because how else can just up and moving at a whim be possible for the average person?

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            No more Only fans, no more energy drinks, no more video games. You can do it. Make it your life’s mission. Learn a language. You don’t have to be perfect just familiar. Maybe brush up on some mathematics. Shit. You could do for a little bit of time, teach English as a second language. And yet it’s somewhat of a scam. You could like put your ear to the ground and ask other people what they’re doing. If you’re young. And even if you’re not, who gives a shit. I mean like, are you trying to have a white picket fence and a wife you hate? A job you hate, a culture you hate. Oh that’s right, no one can afford a house. Never mind. I mean fuck this place, you can do it. I call it Operation FTP. Fuck this place. It’s a deep undercover mission that could last many years. But you will complete that mission.

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            Hell, even moving to another state is an expense most americans can not afford. Especially with the absurdity of rent prices being, in some places, as much as monthy minimum wage is, if not higher.

            OH MY GOD THANK YOU! So many people don’t get that when you’re in a shitty red state it’s REALLY REALLY hard to get out because someone making California wages has absolute way more than we do. Sure, they’re broke as shit there because the prices are high, and that sucks, but then if you’re coming from Missouri to California, the phrase “fucked” doesn’t even begin to cover it.

            It’s telling that I say I clawed my way out of Arkansas and Missouri was my “better”

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          and to add, most countries accepting immigrants from the USA, they only want people with PHD in stems. most people dont have one. since a very small group of college graduates even go to grad school anyways.

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            Says Who? Where are you trying to go, Norway? Sweden? This is like abusive spouse language, like nobody wants you, nobody loves you. You’re lucky I love you. I know people with PhDs and they’re dumber than fucking shit. And what do you mean accepting? If you get a work visa and then you find a employer that wants to keep you. They usually can expedite this process. I’ve seen some of the most useless dumb motherfuckers in the world succeed.

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    What I find so annoying is how there are so many people (outside of this platform) who are just shocked and devastated about this news. I am over here like…the man is in his eighties. He is an elderly man. We should not be that surprised about some illness popping up at that age.