A 2025 Tesla Model 3 in Full-Self Driving mode drives off of a rural road, clips a tree, loses a tire, flips over, and comes to rest on its roof. Luckily, the driver is alive and well, able to post about it on social media.
I just don’t see how this technology could possibly be ready to power an autonomous taxi service by the end of next week.
I mean, if Elon was my dad, I’d probably have some suicidal tendencies too.
More like the abusive step-father
Why was the driver not paying attention and why didn’t they just steer it back into the lane? It’s not called “Full Self Driving (Supervised)” for no reason. Hopefully Tesla get all the telemetry and share why it didn’t stay on the road, and also check if the driver was sleeping or distracted.
Watch the video. Happens insanely quickly. And on straight road that should be no issue so person’s guard was down
Watched it. Is there even any evidence that it was in FSD mode?
Can you prove that it wasn’t in self driving mode? Since you are being so inept about a technology that has had several other reports doing the same thing. You are defending the car which is a known POS.
The claim is that it was in SFD. Where’s the evidence?
That’s not how that works, New-account-with-negative-2500-karma. You supply evidence for your own claims, others can review the evidence.
The claim was that FSD did this, but no evidence was provided to say it did.
My claim is that there’s no evidence to show FSD was enabled.
The fact that many other Teslas have done the behavior that is reported. Are you new to how facts work?
That’s not evidence lol. The claim is that FSD did this, but no evidence was provided to show that it was.
The owner of this Tesla could have also posted the internal cabin camera footage. Wonder why they didn’t?….
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No serious injuries
How unfortunate
Look, I respect where you’re coming from. May I presume your line of reasoning is in the vein of “elon musk sucks and thus anyone who buys their stuff is a Nazi and should die” - but that is far, far too loose of a chain of logic to justify sending a man to death alone. Perhaps if you said that they should be held accountable with the death penalty on the table? But c’mon - are you really the callous monster your comment paints you as?
These aren’t passive victims, they are operating harmfully dangerous machines at high speeds on roads shared with the rest of us.
Right but they believe that the car is safe, because of the advertising and because the product is legally sold.
If anyone is to blame here it’s not the owner of the car, it’s the regulators who allow such a dangerous vehicle to exist and to be sold.
Yea, this subthread it morally ass.
I don’t think it’s morally wrong to be a sucker. If you fall for the lie, you think you’re actually doing a good thing by using FSD and making the road both safer today and potentially radically safer into the future.
Problem is, it’s a lie. Regulators exist to sort that shit out for you, car accidents are rare enough that the risk is hard to evaluate as a lone-gun human out here. The regulators biffed this one about as hard as an obvious danger can be biffed.
I give 0 ducks about Nazis who drive the Nazi car. The more of them that oven themselves in them the better
Not really worth talking about unless the crash rate is higher than human average.
Imagine if people treated airbags that way XD
If Ford airbags just plain worked, and then Tesla airbags worked 999 times out of 1,000, would the correct answer be to say “well thems the breaks, there is no room for improvement, because dangerously flawed airbags are way safer than no airbags at all.”
Like, no. No, no, no. Cars get recalled for flaws that are SO MUCH less dangerous.
Typical piss poor quality from Leon Hitler. F Tesla.
The problem with automation is complacency. Especially in something that people already have a very hard time taking seriously like driving where cell phone distraction, conversations, or just zoning out is super common.
Elon took the wheel because that person made a mean tweet about him
For no reason?
They are running proprietary software in the car that people don’t even know what is happening in background of. Every electric car needs to be turned into an open source car so that the car cannot be tampered with, no surveillancing, etc etc
Everyone should advocate for that because the alternative is this with Tesla. And I know nobody wants this happening to other car manufacturers cars as well
It’s ready, but you’re assuming an entirely general taxi service. It will be carefully constrained like Wayno was. It will be limited to easy streets and times, probably lower speeds, where there is less chance of problems. It’s ready for that.
There’s always a reason. I agree with the author: most likely it misinterpreted a shadow as a solid obstacle. I’m not excusing it but humans do that too, and Tesla will likely ensure it doesn’t come up in their taxi service.
Remember that robotaxi doesn’t actually exist yet. I’m pretty sure the plan is to start with Model Y having human safety drivers. it’s ready for that
I did a trial to find out for myself and my reason for it not being ready yet is a bit different. Full self-driving did perfectly under “normal” conditions, and every time it made me nervous was an edge case. However it made me realize driving is all edge cases. It’s not ready and may never be
I just don’t see how this technology could possibly be ready to power an autonomous taxi service by the end of next week
That’s because it won’t, that’s because Elmo musk is gasp a liar. Always has been. That robo taxi is actuyab older lie he used a couple of years prior, but he dusted it lfft and re-used it.
Anytime Elmo says that he’s confident they can do it now, he means that they’re nowhere near a real product. Anytime he says “next year” it means that it won’t ever happen. Anytime he says that they alrethave a product, it just needs to me produced, it means that it’ll never happy
He is a vaporware con man who has been cheating people (and mostly the US government) out of billions
Literally look at all of his promises over the last decade, you start seeing patterns. It’s always almost there.
SpaceX, arguay his most successful company that he actually did with his leadership is a shit show of lies. According to him we’d be having colonies on Mars by now, it’s what he took 3 billion dollars in funding for, and he literally isn’t at 1% of that. Yet, he keeps claiming, within a few years now! Three billion dollars and he managed to blow up a banana over the Indian ocean, and obliterate a launch pad
If I commit fraud in the thousands, take thousands and then don’t deliver, I go to jail. He does it with countless billions and he’s still out there. Bit alas, his behavior finally is catching up with him, Tesla is going off a cliff bow that nobody wants to drive a Nazi brick anymore
If it was open source tech people could check it and see if it really is capable for themselves but because it’s not we don’t know what it is missing to be way way better
Nah, on the 5 levels of autonomous driving, telsas as at level 2
Elmo isn’t even close but that wint stip him from just lying about it because that is what Elmo does best
Literally look at all of his promises over the last decade, you start seeing patterns. It’s always almost there.
Cheers for the guy/gal that maintains an updated list of all his bullshit, check it out sometime
Holy shit that is a treasure trove! Thanks kind stranger!
Don’t drive Tesla
“Kill me” it said in a robotic voice that got slower, glitchier, and deeper as it drove off the road.
EXTERMINAAAAAATE!!!
you do get this wrong, its a flying car
I use autopilot all the time on my boat. No way in hell I’d trust it in a car. They all occasionally get suicidal. Mine likes to lull you into a sense of false security, then take a sharp turn into a channel marker or cargo ship at the last second.
They have auto pilot on boats? I never even thought about that existing. Makes sense, just never heard of it until just now!
They’ve had it forever. Tie a rope to the wheel. Presto. Autopilot.
That’s not how boats (ouside of hollywood) work, tho
I’ll point this post out to Wall Street Bets, Maersk stock will pop 10%+ overnight.
They’ve technically had autopilots for over a century, the first one was the oil tanker J.A Moffett in 1920. Though the main purpose of it is to keep the vessel going dead straight as otherwise wind and currents turn it, so using modern car terms I think it would be more accurate to say they have lane assist? Commercial ones can often do waypoint navigation, following a set route on a map, but I don’t think that’s very common on personal vessels.
That’s similar to commercial airliners right?
Exactly. My car doesn’t have AP, but it does have a shed load of sensors and sometimes it just freaks out about stuff being too close to car for no discernible reason. Really freaks me out as I’m like what you see bro we just driving down the motorway.
For mine, it’s the radar seeing the retro-reflective stripes on utility poles being brighter than it expects.
Isn’t there a plane whose autopilot famously keeps trying to crash into the ground. The general advice is to just not let it do that, whenever it looks like it’s about to crash into the ground, pull up instead.
Pretty sure that’s the Boeing 777 and they discovered that after a crash off Brazil.
The Being 787 Max did that when the sensor got faulty and there was no redundancy for the sensor’s because that was in an optional addon package
Even worse, the pilots and the airlines didn’t even know the sensor or associated software control existed and could do that.
All the other answers here are wrong. It was the Boeing 737-Max.
They fit bigger, more fuel efficient engines on it that changed the flight characteristics, compared to previous 737s. And so rather than have pilots recertify on this as a new model (lots of flight hours, can’t switch back), they designed software to basically make the aircraft seem to behave like the old model.
And so a bug in the cheaper version of the software, combined with a faulty sensor, would cause the software to take over and try to override the pilots and dive downward instead of pulling up. Two crashes happened within 5 months, to aircraft that were pretty much brand new.
It was grounded for a while as Boeing fixed the software and hardware issues, and, more importantly, updated all the training and reference materials for pilots so that they were aware of this basically secret setting that could kill everyone.
