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Prof Christopher Dye, professor of epidemiology at the University of Oxford, said: “The next thing is Disease X as WHO (World Health Organization) has called it
Twitter rebranding as the next pandemic, classic Enron
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So you believe literally nothing anyone tells you at all?
Your brain is good at many things.
Your brain is not as good at some things – for example, complex statistical analysis – as the collective brains of lots of other people who specialise in that thing all working together.
No shit.
No shit, sherlock! I’ll inform pikachu right away. Brb.
I still wear mine. I’ll probably always wear it when I’m sick in the future. Never realized how easy it was not to be nasty and spread illnesses around
You mean the right wing extremist crazies who exaggerate everything from EV fires to being unable to breathe in masks were wrong?
Huge shocker. They definitely seemed so confident
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When the people who claimed “masks don’t work” convince the Royal Society to publish an 80 page report similarly supported by academics at Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial, St Andrews, UCL, and Edinburgh (among others) then they will definitely deserve to be equally confident.
Probably more lockdowns than facemasks (at least how people were using them)
You mean my cloth mask and beard might not have been so effective?
(I like to think at least I was protecting other people a little…)
Masks were mostly effective at stopping someone infecting others.
Only properly sealed N95+ masks would really be effective on the receiving end.And sadly, that meant that the (non-exempt) selfish bastards who refused to wear them still spread it around.
So you were definitely protecting other people, and did a great job :)
My company’s owner (were an MSP, maybe 30-40 employees back then) somehow got a backdoor deal on some N95 masks for us at the company, and we had a lot of work from home too. I’m not sure they were quite as good as official ones, but they were still pretty good until more masks became available.
You have to get Fit Tested to find the right N95 respirators. You likely had KN95S respirators.
They work just as good.
It’s better than nothing as long as you were wearing it correctly and kept time exposure as low as possible. N95 would’ve been best of course
Cloth masks still work to slow down particles coming out of you so they don’t spread as far, so it’s still helpful to prevent spread. It just doesn’t filter things that well, so anything you’re breathing in is still just as likely to infect you. It’s a good safety measure, particularly if everyone is wearing one. It doesn’t work well if everyone except the infected person is.
you mean wearing it under your nose and pulling on it when talking makes it less effective?
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There’s cutting, and there’s deflecting.
A demographic shift is observed in the USA, related to political stupidity and preference on mask wearing.
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Unequivocally - never heard that word. It means clearly or definitely.
Reminds me of a birthday card with George W. Bush on it. It said “I unequivocally wish you a happy birthday!” on the front and “Uh, unless ‘unequivocally’ means ‘don’t.’” on the inside.
It’s a perfectly cromulent word.
Those of you that may be a bit lost on the reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4qP42Aqpbg (Simpsons)
My knowledge has been enbiggened.
Cromulent - never heard that word. It means acceptable or adequate.
No shit Sherlock
it’s always good to verify your hypothesis even if it’s seemingly obvious. Just because something seems like it’s logical and how it should be doesn’t mean it is.
Except in this case we already knew the hypothesis was correct
did we? were there studies done? and if there were what’s the harm in repeating and verifying?
In the same vein now we now exactly how much more effective it is vs alternatives. Studies often answer many questions at once even if on the face of it the study’s result seems obvious
you should start at the wikipedia page for false equivalence instead
This is why I am starting to conduct my study into if fire is hot.
It appears to be, but I feel extensive additional researchers required.
“Ow”
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I assure you i’m not capable of having been infected by a computer model, and I have absolutely been infected with covid-19 in the past.
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Ooh, “alleged infection agent”. Are you one of those funny people who claim HIV doesn’t cause AIDS?
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If they’d called it Dogs arse Flu you wouldn’t even comment.
This is totally irrelevant?? It was a coronavirus, not a flu virus, which is why it’s not called as some kind of flu strain.
P.S. Sar-cov2 is the alleged infection agent and not Covid19, which is a list of basic symptoms.
It is the infection agent. Not the “”“alleged”“” infection agent. Also casual conversation and speech is a thing .
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Phew - luckily no-one died or got infected, or my wife had to volunteer to turn intubated patients in ITU because the nurses were exhausted.
No, really? Wow.
I’m so glad they conducted a study, that was money well spent that was.
This is news? I thought we already knew that loke one year or more ago…
We’ve basically known it since germ theory, or maybe before. Still, it doesn’t hurt to have the study to point crazy people to. They won’t believe it, but it at least ensure anyone else reading might not trust them.
Remember when early in the pandemic the news and the CDC was saying masks won’t help?
I remember it as saying they won’t be perfect and won’t help enough, and also that people in critical positions (Healthcare specifically) needed them and the supply was limited. I don’t think I ever heard from an official source that they wouldn’t help, but I’ve heard many people say they said that.
Here is an overview of how the government’s recommendations changed over time. They were explicitly advising against wearing face masks and saying they don’t work. Ex:
U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams tweets that wearing a face mask will not prevent the public from contracting the novel coronavirus.
“Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS!” he wrote in a tweet that was later deleted. “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus
Yep, they lied to people in an attempt to save the supply of masks for people in health care because there weren’t enough stockpiled. And they wonder why people don’t trust them anymore.
No…
Which part do you disagree with? That the CDC lied about masks working, or my explanation of their motivations?
Thier motivations. The CDC was in a scramble and early theories were contradictions of one another.
Level one medical masks will not prevent you from getting COVID.
The CDC recommended everyone to wear level one and then eventually level two masks to prevent the spread to others.
It was around the time that a lot of people were asymptomatic carries of the virus and was spreading it.
There was an initial issue with getting masks for hosiptals but it was mainly supply chain issues. China was fairly quickly able to adapt to the changes.
Hand sanitizer was the biggest issue. Everyone was buying that up right away.
It’s the explanation given by even liberal news outlets.
I’ll concede that they didn’t know the specific mechanisms of the virus (hence hand sanitizer despite it mostly doing nothing), but it was pretty clearly respiratory (given its close relatives SARS and MERS) and, well, masks work against that. Also to clarify my position so you don’t get the wrong idea, I’m radically pro-mask and think that repealing the mandates was and is social murder.
