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Just use vim, it usually comes preinstalled
IIRC vi has been installed, or perhaps tinyvim, then I always go and install vim-gtk
For a few files, sure. Idk how I’d use that on the large corporate Java codebase that I usually work with though. Despite all its memory hogging and unnecessary features, IntelliJ also proves remarkably useful when trying to find anything in these mega projects. Features like ctrl + clicking on a method call to get to its definition (even when it is in a different project that I don’t have checked out), the refactoring tools, the debugger, etc are absolutely necessary to get anything done.
Maybe use tags for that but I’ve never personally messed with it.
vim fast, IDE slow, I use vim because I’m impatient
Unless you need to work on a solution with more than a few projects, such as Unity games. Then the LSPs go haywire and eat 20+Gb of memory, while not actually working.
Which, ofc, is Microsoft’s fault, since it’s their analyzer that has had the bug for years now. Rider didn’t have that problem, but it shits itself when you change branches. You can’t win :(
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None of those issues for my main IDE, though Rider on some occasions do get stuck marking some spelling errors after they are fixed.
It has stuttered a few times, but pretty rare. But it does have a bug where it think it is building a project, but isn’t. And requires a restart to fix… Easy to trigger if you try building a project while it’s loading the project…
Visual Stuido with Resharper is the one where things would randomly stop working though. Especially hotkeys would sometimes stop working until I restarted it. Slow and stutter too.
At least the number of times I have to use the Clean Java Language Workspace in VS Code has declined recently. I mean, I still have to, just not as often.
Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/378/
Too many features but also autocomplete isn’t working? So I guess you do want many features?
Definitely #1. I’ve encountered #2 with a very specific IDE and #4 and #5 on occasion.
I really never understood what benefits an IDE has over Notepad++, they take up SOOOO much drive space for me when all i want to do is make a mod to someone elses file…
If you all you need a text editor… great. But an IDE gives you tons of tools, such as debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection, intergated terminals, some may even include visual gui editors. Thats why they are called “Development environments”.
debugging, breakpoints, memory inspection
glorified printf debugging
intergated terminal
real terminal
You get the most out of them when working on bigger projects with many files and multiple contributers:
- Version control integration
- Automatic profiling
- Debugger integration
- Refactoring
- Jump to Definition/Parent/Children/Usages of a Symbol
- …
For changing a single file, I’d often just launch a simple editor too.
Version control integration
Almost always garbage, in my experience. Except for merge conflict resolution. That’s unbelievably nice. But git command lines have always been more reliable and less likely to end up with broken local branches.
Seriously though. The merge conflict resolution in three panes is super nice.
Before I started reading the meme I actually thought “just use Notepad++”.
I can’t live without VIM keybinds. Maybe I’m a boomer. I do use it as a note taking or “collect my thoughts” app. Or just a place to paste shit when I’m working. Very useful for that. Though only when I’m forced to be on Windows.
VSCode is the first development environment I’ve used that doesn’t make me feel like this. It’s not perfect but the base application is rock solid and the full DE experience is the more reliable than any other DE I’ve used.
P.S. I specifically said DE for those people who say VSCode isn’t an IDE. Personally I don’t see the point in differentiating.
P.P.S. Sublime is not a DE in my opinion. It’s an excellent text editor with syntax highlighting. The plugins were an afterthought and it was never intended to provide the full experience. Granted I haven’t used it in years.
VSCode is by far and away the best thing Microsoft has ever done. (I’m sure therefore they will ruin it eventually, but that’s a separate issue)
Its good for two main reasons IMO:
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It is plugin-based
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It is (therefore) language-agnostic
Plugins mean the DE starts as a very lightweight thing that is basically nothing more than a text editor. You can then add as much or as little as you want to get the level of features you are comfortable with but without being too bloated.
And then, because it’s all plugins, you can work with any language and still stay within the same editor. Divine.
I personally love how lightweight it is compared to a full IDE because I don’t like it when IDEs hide the magic behind UI. Press the button and it compiles huh? But how? What’s going on there? What toolchain and commands are being executed?
I much prefer a good MAKEFILE where you know what your entry points are and what is going on, because it makes everything so much more portable and also improves your own knowledge and understanding.
Yeah it’s great because even without a make plugin, you can just add your make command to the vscode actions that’ll run your makefile.
Or even better, get the plugin which will auto populate targets from the makefile lol
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#1 and 3, definitely, although 3 is usually not really the IDEs fault.
The others, either not really (#2, 5), who cares, (#4), or maybe occasionally but not really specific to IDEs (#6).
How is #6 not specific to IDEs? I’ve never had vim, np++, or any other dedicated editor freeze; and I’ve used them to edit multi-gigabyte log files before.
Neovim >>> any ide
I mainly code Java with IntelliJ.
- it doesn’t AFAIK have an integrated browser or if it does I have never encountered it ❌
- I have not seen it crash a lot and certainly not for the stated reason ❌
- if autocomplete isn’t working, that is a sign something about the build process isn’t set up right, so other things won’t work either ❔
- basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅
- if it underlines something, that has always been an error, I think it calls a real Java compiler for this ❌
- freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅
It has an integrated browser in Ultimate, not in Community.
No, it only has an integrated html previewer. They removed the full integrated browser because it was unnecessary and an actual browser did the trick
basic settings being buried deep in the menus is definitely a thing ✅
Nah, there is:
- A special hotkey that allows you to find and execute virtually any command. Same in vscode with ctrl+shift+p.
- Text-based search in the settings dialog.
So even though things are buried somewhere deep, it’s easy to find them.
freezing at critical moments can occasionally be a thing ✅
Sounds like a
skillhardware issue tbh.
I just use Kate
Kate is great for being a compiled C++ program, making it nice and lightweight. Plus lots of syntax highlighting. Not quite the same as IDEs with auto completion, but pretty good for plain text editing.
It can give autocompletion based on the current file, which is good for writing self contained classes. You can also enable an LSP to get language autocompletion :D
The IDE is the worst part of being an iOS developer.
Yes, and the worst part is that XCode is only available on OSX.
I once had to make an iOS app once and didn’t have a Mac so I developed the entire thing in a VM. There was no video encoding, the FPS was in the low single digits, which made it very difficult to even type. So I ended up writing the code using VSCode through SSH through Wireguard connected to the VM on the host machine, which actually worked surprisingly well. But hey, the app did work in the end.
Wait how can you run Mac OS on a VM?!?
I used QEMU but I don’t think it’s possible anymore. I had to use an older version of OSX (I think I tried 3-4) but that version is no longer supported by XCode.
I legit swore off the entire OS when one of my teachers forced us to use macOS + X code to write Objective C code
