Just in the South of the Arctic
It’s like a basic reading comprehension thing…
The ship is located in the Weddell Sea, which is north of Antarctica.
they’re saying everywhere outside Antarctica is north of Antarctica, so that doesn’t add anything. it’s deliberately obtuse for humorous effect. basic joke comprehension should be a thing.
Or south from the Equator line.
I appreciate the “perhaps”, like, the headline qualifies how annoyed they are at imprecision.
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Of course they aren’t going to give the exact location. That wreck would be ransacked for scrap metal if it isn’t resting too deep. Like in Indonesia several WW2 shipwrecks have gone missing.
a fun fact about this, by the way
the reason we scavenge steel from old shipwrecks is because all modern peoduced steel is contaminated with a miniscule - but still present - amount of radioactive isotopes, incompatible with some incredibly precise scientific instruments and other nieche, but essential applications, that not only require old steel, but old steel that wasn’t exposed to all the radioactive fallout during the nuclear tests in the cold war, hence why the sunken ships.
adding a personal note here, if some nuclear tests around the world contaminated everything THIS MUCH, what will we say about microplastics in a couple decades? just food for thought
3000 meters is pretty fucking deep.
Like - 6 times deeper than the deepest hardsuit dive in history.
There’s only a few ships in the world that can salvage at that depth, and they’re not fly-by-night pirate operations.
Here I’ll help, it’s also south of the North Pole.
And west of the equator.
Near the British Empire then.
I can construct a weird true statement from this: All continents besides Antarctica are located North of the South-Pole.
Technically, almost all of Antarctica is located north of the south pole
If the south pole is a point, then it has no surface area, so the entirety of antartica is located north of the south pole
Mark here either has poor reading comprehension, or is intentionally being a little shit by cherry picking part of the title and not reading the whole thing.
The location specified is not ‘north of Antarctica’.
It is, ‘the Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica.’
Giving ‘the Weddell Sea’ as the location is actually decently specific, and the ‘north of Antarctica’ that follows is modifying / adding to the description of ‘the Weddell Sea’… not the entirety of the location description.
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
Mark, and anyone else who also finds this to be a funny, poignant zinger, need to go back to middle school and relearn grammar.
Or - bear with me here - it’s just a funny detail and people are laughing about it. Because any sea is obviously going to be north of it
Just looking at that map seems to show the Ross sea to the south
Sir do you know how globes work?
I think he’s probably trolling us, because he’s doubling down on it elsewhere in the thread in face of all the people explaining it to him. Nobody is that dumb.
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I see you’ve bought into the globey lie of a round earth.
Probably the author made this exact mistake
Nothing is more South than the south pole. Everything is north of it. The map is looking directly at the “bottom” of the earth.
While you’re not wrong, you’re also massively over-analyzing and "WELL AKSHULLY"ing what appears to be a silly one-liner, not a serious attempted dunk on the article.
I am not going to apologize for having humor standards above that of a middle schooler.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Weddell sea is good, mentioning Antarctica is good, the word “North” is meaningless in this context which is what the OP is laughing about.
It should probably say, “off the Antarctic coast”, or even “X kilometers off the Antarctic coast”.
The Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica, brought to you by the department of redundancy department.
You’re not wrong, you’re just insufferable.
Nah, spectral IS wrong. The “complaint” isn’t arguing grammar, it’s explicitly pointing out that there’s a very unhelpful couple of words in the sentence.
The sentence “I live north of Antarctica.” gives you basically zero information but is perfectly grammatically correct.
The line may as well have been “The weddel sea, which is made of water,…”
Yup, by naming Wedell, they located it quite well; there are 13 small named seas completely encircling Antarctica. By naming any of them, you can reasonably locate (to any point that matters to dear reader) the wreck
Sure, if you happen to already know where the Wedell Sea is or if you look it up it you can reasonably locate it, in which case adding the “north of Antarctica” part is superfluous. But if you don’t already know where the Wedell Sea is, adding in the “north of Antarctica” part doesn’t actually narrow it down any, which is why it’s a funny thing to point out.
If they had wrote “just north of Antarctica” or “off the coast of Antarctica” or “near Antarctica”, that would have narrowed it down significantly.
Now that I have thoroughly explained the joke, I imagine it’s much funnier now.
I’m sure that “Mark “Three-Jabs” Newton” and the rest of us who found this funny were able to deduce from the context that is actually what the writer meant . That isn’t what they actually wrote though so “sp3ctr4l” is not only incorrect in asserting that Mark has “poor reading comprehension”, he is also wrong that ‘reading the whole thing’ would have clarified things and was extremely condescending about his incorrect statement at the same time, which makes him kind of an ass imo.
He was correct that Mark was “intentionally being a little shit” so 1 out of 3 wouldn’t have been so bad if he weren’t such a douche about it at the same time.
It’s much funnier now
Nah, It was rather self-explanatory, I believe most of us read it is more of a pedantic thing than a joke. Sadly, explaining the pedantic thing at length reinforced that substantially. :)
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
I agree with your overall statement. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot more people than Americans out there.
Prime “AKSHUALLY” moment.
Nope. You could as well say: Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica.
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The temperature is pleasant, higher than absolute zero.
Doesn’t add anything. There are no seas south of Antarctica.
The map he linked literally shows the Ross sea south of Antarctica.
Also since its earth is spherical and its near the south pole you can really go any direction and find a sea… that just becomes a matter of perspective.
In this case, specifically, the wedell sea is to the north of the continent
I’m not sure you understand what south means. It’s not “on the bottom of a map”, it’s “towards the south pole”. The south pole is in the middle of the linked map. On Antarctica.
Tthat’s not south of Antarctica though. It’s below, in terms of the map’s perspective, but “absolute south” is the middle of the picture. Anywhere outside Antarctica is north of Antarctica.
Let me guess, you think earth is flat cause maps are flat.
Tell me you didnt read my comment without telling me
I did. Doesnt mean you made any sense. Any direction from Antarctica is north no matter what perspective.
The perspective of a map does not change how the cardinal directions relate to each other. You may be confused about how in slang, “south” may mean below and “north” may mean “above”, but that slang usage does not apply with geography where these terms are rigidly defined. The South Pole is categorically the southernmost point* — there is no location more south than the South Pole. The South Pole is located within Antarctica; ergo, there is no location more south than Antarctica.
*it’s beside the point to distinguish between the Magnetic South Pole and the True South Pole for this discussion but I figured I’d mention it
It adds something, it specifies the nearest location, if we assume the basic sanity of the sentence. Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica would be insane thing to say. Mediterranean Sea, north of Africa however is a proper signifier.
Is there any Mediterranean Sea south of Africa?
If you don’t know where Mediterranean Sea is, saying it’s south of Africa is a useful thing. Regardless of how many Mediterranean Seas there are.
You better believe I’m here for this squabbling
Could you enlighten me, then? How on earth does “north of Antarctica” modifiy or add to “the Weddell Sea” in any way, shape, or form?
The Endurance has been found, 3000 metres beneath the Weddell Sea, [which is]north of Antarctica.
I’m wondering if you fail to realize that the entirety of the antarctic coast is “north of Antarctica” which makes the description a virtually useless modifier.
Nothing wrong with the grammar, just the logic.
It seems they forgot to mention it was on earth. They really should have indicated it was within the solar system too. No mention of being located in the Milky Way galaxy or the known universe either.
show me which part of Weddell Sea isn’t North of Antarctica
It looks like some parts are south, east or west of parts of Antarctica. Sure, it’s all north of the south pole but that isn’t the question.
Which part is south of Antarctica?
right, but everything in the world except for Antarctica is North of Antarctica… including all of Weddell Sea
No. There are parts of Antarctica that are north of the sea. That is, you can be in Alaska and travel south and hit the sea. It really depends on where the two points are.
the parts of weddell sea that are south of antarctica are also north of antarctica….
There is no part of the Weddell Sea, or any sea that is South of Antarctica.
here i drew you a picture
A 6th grader’s literacy level means they can write a book report.
Yeah that popped out to me immediately. I looked up the Weddell Sea and as your shared map shows, it’s a big but well identified area. It’s not like they said it’s in the Pacific Ocean or some shit.
It is still valid to point out that “north of Antartica” is a silly phrase in context, even though it’s fine given the more specific Weddell Sea information. If you did want to help readers know the story based on a more well-known landmark, a less silly phrase would have been simply been “Weddell Sea, near Antarctica”.
I’d go with “the Antarctic’s Weddell Sea”.
If “north of Antarctica” isn’t enough to narrow it down, here are a few tips: it’s also south of the Arctic, further from the Sun than Venus, closer to the Sun than Mars. Now it’s easy to find it!
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I’m good with it. Keep it somewhat hidden. Once the position gets out, every asshat with a scuba tank and calls themselves “an explorer” will ruin the place.
asshat with a scuba tank
3000 meters beneath the Weddell Sea
Good luck
Someone will try it don’t worry.
That or some billionaire will send private subs down to it.
From what I’ve read, billionaires need more private sub trips
Might as well just write it’s north of south
We don’t talk about what’s South of Antarctica
You mean beyond the ice wall that marks the edge of the disc? We’re not allowed to know /s
