It has been 15 days since the post about future of politics in this community was made, and results are somewhat clear - 35 (39 - 4) in favor of no poltics vs 4 (7 - 3) in favor of poltical natured posts.

If I use politcal lingo, this would be a landslide victory of no politics faction.

What does this mean”?

Who is “We”?

I am speakinng currently for collective group of moderators, and also the community itself (as in, we do not do that here).

We are banning schadenfreude - which roughly translates to feeling joy at someone else’s misfortune. What that means is, if there is someone who you (or a lot of people) do not like gets some disease which they could not have planned for (for example cancer), then this is not a uplifting news. If they are making losses, that is not uplifting. If they are depressed, that is not uplifting. We will not be retroactively actively removing posts, but future posts of this nature will be deleted as per understanding of moderators or community (by means of votes or reports).

We are also banning politics. That by itself is a statement political in nature. Everything is political but what we are banning is the more clearer mainstream politics. We do not really want to know if this group we do not like lost/won somewhere. But what is acceptable is, for example, some good person (good because other things they have done in life) is awarded something. This can be political in nature (example, a nobel prize), and there is no clear way to put in words what is and is not allowed. If yoou have a better method to express this, then please add in comments.

More clarification - we are not banning news which maybe political in nature, but which is toxic politics. if there is a news which is political, lets say some marginalised group got better rights, that is allowed, or even welcomed. Think simple - if you can tell some small kid the news, and they feel good, then it is uplifting. It should not require you to know what the person has done in past. If something bad happens to a bad person, then that is still bad, it does not become uplifting for a kid. this example by itself also has flaws, and I am still unable to word it well. But I hope the spirit of rule is clearer. no toxicity.

We are also banning low effort news or fake news. This could be news which is not adding anything new at all or is a copy of a copy of a copy (and bad one). Please try to fetch original sources. This is just to maintain a standard. This does not restrict you from posting a news which is targeted at a small group, or is published by a small group which may not be publishing a very fancy, furnished looking posts. Essentially - a no fluff rule.

  • katy ✨
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    129 days ago

    More clarification - we are not banning news which maybe political in nature, but which is toxic politics.

    thank god :)

  • @[email protected]
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    11 month ago

    Delighted to hear this. I subbed for actually uplifting news and the schadenfreude political posts were becoming tiresome.

  • @[email protected]
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    11 month ago

    I missed the voting but I’m happy at the result. These are good rules for this community.

    • Chozo
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      11 month ago

      I also missed it. Which is disappointing because I had brought up this subject a few times and at least wanted to take part in the discussions (luckily it went as I had hoped it would). Unfortunately, keeping a post on a Lemmy feed visible long enough for everybody to see it is kinda hard to do right now. Especially for those of us who primarily browse from our main feed pages, and not directly on the community where stickied threads can be seen.

  • BigFig
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    11 month ago

    Isn’t this TECHNICALLY a schadenfreude post? If you were on the side of not having such posts you’d be reading this with a sense of schadenfreude towards those who DID want the posts.

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      030 days ago

      rule was enacted after this was published and i said i am not going to enact retroactively. i am from the side not wanting these posts, but maybe not as strongly worded

      • BigFig
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        130 days ago

        Just joking my guy, I don’t have a horse in this race

  • PrivateNoob
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    31 month ago

    Glad to see some great improvements. I always felt weird whenever schadenfreude posts were posted in this community and banning political posts are just the cream on top. Keep on going!

    • misterdoctor
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      21 month ago

      Totally agree. Seeing someone diagnosed with cancer shared as uplifting news just felt off and not in the spirit of what this community should be about.

  • Envy
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    01 month ago

    Political*

    Spell check helps make mod announcements look more professional!

    Edit since I’ve been downvoted into oblivion and can be snarky, I’m just proud yall spelled schadenfreude right

  • Dr. Moose
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    30 days ago

    Agree with everything but “banning politics” - so some new green policy cannot be posted here? Those are the best uplifting news!

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      130 days ago

      they can be posted. as i said - everything is politics, and we can not ban politics. for more details (there were similar queries before) please read other comments. (or just search politics)

  • @[email protected]
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    030 days ago

    Political: Anything pushing a political agenda or sway political opinion. Example: Making commentary about Obama winning a novel Peace prize isn’t political in itself. Saying Obama won the nobel prize because he was a president is political, the statement uses the Nobel award to sway opinion about politics.

    I think it’s a simple enough definition, it is consistently drawing the line that’s difficult.

  • Owl
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    01 month ago

    but i love Schadenfreude. its one of the few joys left in this world

  • JackbyDev
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    029 days ago

    Apart from the very last paragraph these seem like really good changes. It’s fun to see your enemies suffer from time to time, but it’s certainly not uplifting.

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      128 days ago

      why is the last paragraph weird? I genuinely want to know. This rule is mostly to keep in theory. For example, somebody posts some place is very happy, but it is a fake news (for example, they recently got some tragedy) and the person was either trolling, then we should have some rule to delete this news. And most of the time, mods do not flag this, but the people commenting do. Similar is for low effort (read ai generated bullshit).

      • JackbyDev
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        028 days ago

        If you don’t want fake news and AI generated news just say that. “Low effort” is a strange qualifier for news to me. Stories can be real uplifting, and also “low effort.”

  • @[email protected]
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    30 days ago

    I agree with banning misinformation and low effort.

    But you can’t ban politics. Everything is politics

    • @[email protected]
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      130 days ago

      Everything is political but what we are banning is the more clearer mainstream politics. We do not really want to know if this group we do not like lost/won somewhere.