What are your favorite insane laptops?

Mine is the Dell Rugged: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F56ION4_n0

Bump and fall proof, liquid proof, sand proof (and cat hairs proof I assume), extreme heat/cold proof, can be used as a blunt weapon in an emergency. Ridiculously overkill for anyone that’s not a geologist working in Antarctica or an archaeologist in the Gobi desert, and ridiculously overkill is fun

  • @[email protected]
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    622 hours ago

    I got a couple I really like, though for vastly different reasons:

    • The MNT Reform series takes the crown for their commitment towards open source software AND open source hardware.
    • The ASUS Zenbook DUO is an early entry in the direction of what I perceive as peak design. This technology will only improve from here and I hope other vendors will take cues from this one.
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      Could you elaborate on the reform? I hear the hype yet to me it looks like a severely overpriced tv box with some low-grade peripherials strapped to it in the least space efficient way possible. Did they got rockchip to release sources instead of blobs or something? What is the praise actually for?

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        Could you elaborate on the reform?

        For some reason, I was under the impression that laptops in the MNT Reform series were the only laptops that were manufactured using open (source) hardware only. Or, if there were others, that it must have been doing something so special that they deserved to be put on a pedestal. But, currently, I don’t feel confident enough to state why it would be superior over say the Olimex TERES-I or Pinebook Pro.

        I hear the hype yet to me it looks like a severely overpriced tv box with some low-grade peripherials strapped to it in the least space efficient way possible.

        We definitely pay a premium, but I don’t know exactly why. Especially when the aforementioned Olimex TERES-I and Pinebook Pro are almost an order of magnitude cheaper.

        Did they got rockchip to release sources instead of blobs or something?

        From what I understood, Rockchip offers (at least some of) its SoCs as open source hardware. So, what MNT Reform did for the SoC is order them as open source hardware and include/publicize/provide all the schematics (etc).

        What is the praise actually for?

        FWIW, the open source hardware aspect is what I was intrigued by*.

      • monovergent 🛠️
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        I’ve sketched out ideas for something like the MNT Reform, but with a Framework motherboard, and it’s surprisingly hard to whittle down the form factor any more without sacrificing unique and useful features, like the user-replaceable battery cells and modular mechanical keyboard. Those were the main attractions for me, and it is indeed very weak hardware for the price. Tallying up the component prices, it’s about as good as it gets without economies of scale while insisting on libre firmware.

    • Arthur Besse
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      101 day ago

      The w700ds/w701ds (“Dual Screen”)

      … was not Lenovo’s last try at putting two screens on a laptop; see also the X1 Fold and Yoga 9i

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      I wasn’t ready to see that thing. Would have sprayed my drink out if I were drinking at the moment your link loaded. lol

      I would love to have that just to show to co-workers and friends, just to see their reactions. I could see it being kind of nice to have if I really really needed multiple screens. But would never want to bring it anywhere unless it is staying in a hotel room for like a week and working (which I don’t have a job that would even give that situation to happen anyway). Still nice to see mobile workstations still have room for wild-ass designs like that. Kind of like how more smart phones used to have really wild selling points.

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      I would like to argue but I can’t… you win 😅 That’s just… I don’t have words. Just wow 🤯 🤯 🤯

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      Every Macbook Air in the coffeeshop crashes out of sheer terror and awe when you unfold that nerdstation.

    • Endymion_Mallorn
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      It doesn’t look like this is even past concept stage, and it’s already mostly obsolete. Is there something close to this that’s a modern commercial product I can buy?

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        Seems like the sort of thing that might be used to set up like a mobile command station or something. If a disaster occurs and some agency/organization needs to stand up operations at a new location immediately, things like that

        Definitely highly situational, but I’m sure some organizations out there are willing to pay a pretty penny for convenience during those types of situations.

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          I am pretty sure desktops can be used if you are in such a situation. Portable power has been a thing for decades.

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            Well, if you also want to bring 6 monitors with it. I think the point of this is to be highly portable and easy to store.

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              122 hours ago

              This is going to be heavy af and it probably has battery life of 10 minutes. So it will need a charger too.

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                Sure, but it’s not like it’d weigh more than a desktop + 6 monitors, which would also each need their own constant supply of power.

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        “Impractical. Why would anyone ever need so many screens on the go?”

        For the same reason why cars that can’t ride over the slightest speed bumps are sold: low self-esteem and a high urge to stroke one’s own ego.

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        ✍︎ arscyni.cc: modernity ∝ nature.

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    GPD Win Max 2. I love this little thing so much. ~8-10 hours of battery life, up to 64GB RAM, 16-core Ryzen on the newest model, 2K display. It’s only 10 inches and it can run Cyberpunk with raytracing. It also has two slots for SSD’s and an optional LTE module.

    The sticks are hall effect sensors, so there’s no drift (looking at you, Nintendo). The keyboard is backlit and feels way too satisfying for something this small. (I actually like typing on it)

    On the backside of the device, you can slide out two metal covers and place them on top of the thumbsticks, hiding them and making the device look more professional.

    I once took this to a customer doing a training session and dropped the line “This thing is more powerful than all the computers in this room” and it was probably true.

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      10/10 device - it’s a solid laptop though I worry about longevity (they’re a bastard to repair because the arts are all hard to find).

      Upside is it’s the perfect machine for travel gaming!

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        That’s true, but I found parts like the bottom chassis, display assembly and keyboard on Aliexpress. They probably have the joystick modules too.

        The only thing I couldn’t find were the actual rubber thumbsticks, which might become a problem in the future when they wear out. GPD promised to sell them individually a while ago, but as of yet, they haven’t done so.

    • d-RLY?
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      How hot does it get under load of stuff like Cyberpunk or similar programs? I am always jazzed to see high-end laptops, but I am aware of heat being a given. We get a lot of normies (or gamers that dip their toes into PC gaming) that have more money than sense just demanding the most powerful laptop. And they bring them in for us to check-out due to how hot they get. Some of it comes down to them not knowing how to stop all the programs from starting up with it and causing it to heat up from the jump even before launching a game or whatever. lol

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        It’s around ~48°C under my regular coding workload (Chrome, Firefox, Slack and phpStorm opened with a video playing). It’s basically unhearable under these conditions, with the fan running on the lowest speed.

        The max temperature it gets to is ~83°C, which it will reach fairly quick when playing demanding games like Cyberpunk and the device gets a little warm, but not annoyingly hot then. Yes, it’s a little thicc boii, but that works for its benefit because the thickness comes from the big heatpipe, fan and cooler.

        Disclaimer: I put a PTM7950 pad onto the CPU and it greatly benefits from it. Temps with regular paste are worse - I definitely reached temps in the 90s before (but it was not throttling).

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        It is really well made. I had to take the whole machine apart to put in a QWERTZ keyboard and almost everything is easily replaceable and maintainable. The frame feels as sturdy as a typical Macbook chassis, the joystick elements are screwed in and can be swapped quickly, the motherboard and cooling system are also well assembled.

        The only thing I hated is that they glued the power button onto the backlight foil of the keyboard. I don’t know what they were thinking, but glueing a flimsy flextape onto a flimsy foil is a horrible decision. Granted, most people probably never change their keyboard (but they didn’t have the 64GB model with German layout back when I bought it).

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      52 days ago

      Do you grip the device in both hands to use the joysticks, or do you just move them around with your thumbs? It looks rather thick, but also very cool.

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        When gaming, I hold the device in both hands, just as they depict in their marketing material:

        When I’m on location and I have it sitting on the desk, I use the left joystick for scrolling and the right for moving the mouse, it works really well and I don’t have to grip it (I configured AntiMicroX on Linux to translate the inbuilt Xbox controller to mouse movements).

        It also has a builtin mouse mode, but you have to press the right trigger to speed up the mouse, so it’s very unconvenient when you’re not holding the device in your hands.

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          I want one of these but Lenovo has the 11e with ryzen Apu and 8gh of ram for 80$. It’s 1 inch bigger and more replaceable. That’s what I’d go with if I could get another machine. I have too many machines as it is. Anyone want to trade an HP ProBook 8265u 16gb ram 256? It’s a fucking monster and I barely use it lol

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        32 days ago

        It’s proprietary I think, you can buy it as an accessory and put it in yourself or get the machine with it already builtin.

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    71 day ago

    I am on my third Rugged. Two lemons, third one is fine. Beware, these have hardware issues and get the extended warranty.

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    41 day ago

    MSI titan line of monsters “technically a laptop, but is closer to a overkill desktop gaming monster”. They all weighs like 6 kilos

    • @[email protected]OP
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      13 hours ago

      Developed with the military and aerospace industry in mind

      😮 😮 😮

      The way this thread is going I’m almost expecting someone to post a space laptop that’s vacuum resistant next, just in case you need to watch youtube on a space walk

  • nickwitha_k (he/him)
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    Fujitsu Lifebook P-2046. It was semi-rugged with a magnesium alloy chassis but, the real awesome bit was the Transmeta Crusoe processor. It was super power efficient (~15hr between charges with the extended battery) and performed decently. The thing was really ahead of its time.

    • Endymion_Mallorn
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      Anything run on a Crusoe is just amazing. Even when it didn’t live up to the hype, what it did was amazing.

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)
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        For my purposes (note taking in college), it absolutely lived up to the hype. No x86 laptop that I could find at the time came close to its battery life.

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)
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        132 days ago

        Possibly but the CPU was pretty crazy. It used “code morphing” to translate x86 instructions to its internal ISA, something that just seems a bit ridiculous to do at the hardware level.

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          42 days ago

          It’s way more common than you may realize. Intel & AMD (and other x86 CPU manufacturers of the time) did it before the first Crusoe CPU launched. (2000 according to Wikipedia)

          CISC architectures are now seen as inefficient, so all the new ones are RISC and new CISC CPUs just translate the instructions to their intenal RISCier microarchitecture. The CPU’s microcode specifies what an instruction translates to.

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            Oh, absolutely. The thing that is weird is being non-x86 hardware and explicitly implementing the translation layer in hardware that has minimal field configurability (they did have the capability of loading something similar to microcode). It makes sense in some ways (performance being a big one) but, seems like it would be vulnerable to potential changes in the external ISA.

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    I don’t think the Mediaworkstations a-X2P ever came out of “limited production”, but with an EPYC processor, desktop GPU and 6 screens it still meets the mark IMO.

    [Edit]: Sorry, a pair of EPYC processors. And it’s a shipping product.