It’s choice vs force.
I like that on Linux I can install the updates and know that the ones that require a restart will just be ready the next time I restart at my leisure. And if I don’t feel like restarting right away, it won’t nag me about it and maybe just restart on its own if it decides I’ve put it off for too long.
And I can’t believe my previous “solution” to that was to give ms even more money for win 10 pro (to get access to the paywalled settings) only to still feel like ms thought it was their computer that they allowed me to use.
And soon™ we’ll have wayland session restore when we do restart!
never really got the point of that kind of stuff but looking at the demand I’m glad its getting added (eventually) since everyone else clearly wants it.
exactly my thoughts. I’m in control here but it also does stuff the way that makes sense on its own whenever I dont mess with it.
Restarting is good for a computer’s health, right? I think my Kubuntu laptop is the only machine in my house that averages less than two weeks of uptime
My CachyOS (Arch) desktop gets rebooted somewhat often because it suggests I reboot after some upgrades. I guess it’s kernel upgrades, but I’m not sure which do and don’t trigger that recommendation. Nor do I really know how important it is lol.
yes, iirc the general advice is to restart like once a week. its not a huge deal if you wait a little longer (two is fine) its just a guideline.
But it’s such an excitement!
Automatic updates don’t give you the pleasure to see what changed and update and test new features out
At least this is still you choosing when to update
yeah, I just thought it was funny that ive been checking literally daily since I switched to Linux.
I struggle to only update once a week. I’d update daily if it weren’t such a waste on the servers.
Its Wednesday and I’m fiending for my Friday update.
Meanwhile here’s me updating shit once a month at most nowadays.
Thats better. Once a month is good.
Do you have to restart? I’m finding that Fedora (KDE or not) is usually very restart happy.
Fedora updates the kernel and other packages that get loaded into memory at boot time more frequently than other non-rolling distros, which of course necessitates more frequent restarts.
So it is just because they do more when upgrading if I understand you correctly (actually these restarts are daily occurrence)?
They are saying that boot related packages (kernel, etc.) are being work on more frequently than other booting-required distros.
They might be spending their time on other things or whatever. Just that fedora is focusing that direction, heavily and regularly for quite a while. I’d say especially since 42 not that i have any history beyond 40. I came from a place I despised but couldn’t find one that worked as well and stably til i got to trying Fedora. I did, like a decade ago or more, but it wasn’t like it is now to me then.
I don’t think Debian has ever asked me to restart after an update.
Nah I dont restart unless its a massive update of tons of core packages
On fedora that is? Because “my” fedora want to install system stuff only during restart (if updated from app at least).
You can toggle that off in the menu if youre on KDE. I’m on nobara though not fedora so maybe its different.
Where exactly do I find that setting? But I fear it won’t work with fedora.
Settings > software update > apply system updates . set it to immediately
When I first started using Fedora I hesitated to turn this setting on because, to me, it sounds like it’s going to install stuff automatically without asking. I feel like it’s badly named and confusing. Now I suspect they named it poorly on purpose because they really want people to restart to install updates.
its in the software updates page, I think its behind a button at the top
It’s where @[email protected] suggested. Thanks both, I’ve set it to immediately and first update went without restart. Fingers crossed.
I just want my software to leave me the fuck alone and update automatically. Why is this so difficult?
Theres an option in Fedora KDE but it has never worked for me for some reason…?
I’m pretty sure it’s a KDE setting somewhere as there are settings for everything.
Thanks man 👍
Same.
There’s probably an option in your distro to automatically install updates, but it’s annoying when that happens when you’re in the middle of something or if they require restarts
As much as I hate to praise Windows, that’s why they have “update and shut down” when there are updates available.
yay --noconfirm && poweroffI think you may have glossed over the “automatically” part.
Set up a cron job or systemd timer and have your computer suddenly powerdown.
Brother, I am not a programmer and do not know what any of these words mean, and am not interested in becoming one. I just want to use a computer. This is precisely why I can’t use Linux.
You think you can’t use Linux because you can’t set up something to automatically install updates? Nah, don’t worry about that. You really still can. You don’t need to know what a cronjob is lol. (Just some commands that run on a schedule.)
If I recall Windows correctly, a scheduled task.
Then how do you know that the magic spell I gave you doesn’t do it “automatically”? Either you’re lying and you actually a programmer, since we know you need to be a programmer to be able to read, or you somehow figured out how to read it without being one, but that would be crazy, absolutely crazy.
Anyway, if for some reason you need your system to decide when to update and reboot, there is an easily googlable setting for it, and if you just need to emulate window’s “update and shutdown” button, I gave you it for my preferred Linux distribution, and it’s not more complicated on all the other ones.
This is a thing in all KDE distros I know. Once Discover downloaded them, they will be installed on next shutdown / reboot.
Never seen it. And KDE nags me incessantly about updates.
You can change the update notification frequency somewhere in settings. Pretty sure you can disable it too.
The problem is not that it nags me, the problem is that it expects me to manually approve updates.
I believe there’s a setting either in Discover (the KDE “app store”) in the main plasma settings (somewhere in the “updates” section? That might be somewhere else, I don’t remember) that will automatically install updates without you needing to approve them.
And there’s also a setting that will wait to install them until the next boot. When I had that setting on, it only added maybe 10 seconds to my startup time when I needed to apply something like a kernel update.
Have not gotten this feature to work on Fedora, seems nice if it would work automatically
Never actually shuts down for me. Always have to shutdown manually after the update.
Not really going to debate the efficacy, just the concept.
Kubuntu at least also has this option!
When you run sid and update some times 7 times in a day 😁
@unknown1234_5 I want my software to be updated in the background but limited to using only 10% of any resource (bandwidth, CPU etc) while doing so.
I can always set it to automatic somehow, but I never saw those utilities offering a maximum download speed or CPU/Disk utilization setting in any distro.
