• Photuris
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      They will be, when it affects them personally.

      In other words, typical Republican thinking.

      • @[email protected]
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        39 days ago

        Quote my boss, a Mexican living in southern California.

        “Fuck the Mexicans and fuck la kill them all they deserve it” He has also expressed explicitly that trump has done nothing wrong, and that he will only care if he is personally effected.

        The cast majority of everyone i work with has opinions in line with that. The majority of people I work with are Mexicans.

        It’s been baffling watch them all cheer over the protesters getting shot or arrested. Just because it’s LA and there’s a weird hate boner for LA and San Francisco around here.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s already affecting them personally, they’ve just been brainwashed into blaming the wrong people

      • @[email protected]
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        There’s a meme out there that goes something along the line of “Nothing Ever Happens”. This line of thinking is poison, as it doesn’t take into account incrementalism. The fall into fascism isn’t a single large step, it’s many small steps until one day you’ve realized that you’re no longer in the same place that you were, and that now, you’re lost.

      • @[email protected]
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        19 days ago

        Yes over half. If nearly half of respondents disapprove, than the other over half either support it or don’t care enough to oppose it, which is to say they aren’t concerned about it.

    • @[email protected]
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      Probably more, some that are mentally challenged awknowledge Trump is terrible, they are just mentally challenged in a nother way.

    • @[email protected]
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      Well, remember George Carlin when he said something along the lines of “Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half the population is dumber than that.”

  • NotAGamer
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    Nearly half of Americans don’t understand that when an illegal and immoral tactic is used against someone you don’t like, it can then be used against you too. Dumb fucking Americans.

  • Net_Runner :~$
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    There’s something that needs to be done, and that something is drastic, and a lot of people don’t want to hear, or see it. But we can’t keep going forward as a country where more than half of people are violent sociopaths, or enablers of the latter.

  • @[email protected]
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    Less than the majority is depressing, but don’t forget how the media is covering this. MAGA eats this shit up, obviously, but even your standard semi-informed people are getting “riots on the street of LA” bullshit on their local news outlets.

    I’m actually a little surprised it’s “almost half” in disapproval, given how badly this is covered. I wonder if TikTok and Bluesky are helping, the latter being obvious but the former being surprisingly good at showing what’s actually happening on the ground-- at least a lot better than Meta and X options.

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      Yeah, also even though it’s “almost half” there’s more people saying disapprove than approve, so there’s a large number in the “unsure” category right now, and the more we find out about who’s being deported and how and what the cops will do to suppress these protests the more that disapprove number will go up

  • Chainweasel
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    If “nearly half” disprove that means more than half approve.
    That’s fucking disgusting.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      There’s always a good percentage that are indifferent or “don’t know”. But they’re no help.

        • @[email protected]
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          610 days ago

          The people that don’t care will continue to not care until it affects them directly. Even with the tariffs it won’t matter until what they’re actually buying gets hit by the price hikes. Even then they may not even be paying enough attention to their finances to notice.

          • @[email protected]
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            And even if they express disapproval they will vote or not vote in the same manner because the other side is worse or both are bad.

    • @[email protected]
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      2011 days ago

      Per the article:

      47% of U.S. adults disapprove of of deploying the Marines to LA, with 34% approval.

      45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.

      That leaves 19% and 17% that are undecided. The question for those would be are they uninterested or uninformed?

    • @[email protected]
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      This is exactly what happens with democratic societies. Majority somehow can decide for the rest of sane people how to live, behave and be quiet when you think differently. People have been trained to stick with a herd. Anarchy has a lot of advantages to it. Individual decisions matter as long as you apply Non Aggression Principles. Anarchy doesn’t mean no rules, but no rulers. People don’t create wars, governments do. Government robs you by the way of taxation for everything and then create crazy national debts and tax you even more (tarrifs). The previous ruler (Biden) brought all these migrants over and current Mango Mussolini created a solution enforcing real IDs, biometric scanning, total surveillance of your personal wallet. Soon enough CBDC will be introduced. There is no deep state, there is only the state and two party illusion.

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        This is exactly what happens with democratic societies

        No. This is what happens when you have two sides, both too large to really represent anyone, battling for a sliver of majority using increasingly diverging views and then exercising as much power as they can before the roles flip again.

        In an actual democracy representatives of the people, with many differing views, sit down together and decide case by case on a solution that most can be happy with.

        Someone will always disagree with any decision when we live in a large society, but a functioning democracy is the closest thing we have ever come to making sure that as many as possible are happy (and more importantly get a say).

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            Indeed! And they do under representational democracies. In a community there will always be some sort of law or code, whether written or not, that some members of that community disagree with.

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              I didn’t vote in “selection”. Cause I can’t let someone else to decide how I should live. Involuntarily taxation is theft. No victim - No crime!

        • @[email protected]
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          Unfortunately exactly this outcome is the inevitable result of a FPTP voting system combined with political parties. The most stable arrangement of such a system is a two party system, and once it reaches that point the winning party becomes the one willing to take the most extreme position from the other party.

          The only way to fix this is to do away with FPTP and replace it with a proportional voting system that will allow for multiple political parties to be viable and encourage the major parties to seek moderate positions rather than extremes.

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            Absolutely agree! First past the post will always drift toward larger and less representative parties. Even proportional representation can have this tendency, but it is much more resilient.

    • @[email protected]
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      To be fair here and without looking up numbers, such polls tend to often show the same pattern. Something like 45% A, 30% undecided, 25% B.

      So when “nearly half” disapprove it can still mean “a majority” does.

        • @[email protected]
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          Okay, then let me rephrase it: When “nearly half” disapprove it can (and probably does) mean that there is still no majority (or plurality) approving, which is what OP falsely concluded.

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    These are some depressing numbers.

    47% of U.S. adults disapprove of of deploying the Marines to LA, with 34% approval.

    45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.

    … An equal share — 45% — also disapprove of the protests against ICE, per Monday YouGov polling.

    36% said they approve of the protests, and 19% said they are not sure.

    58% of Democrats said they approved of the anti-ICE protests, compared to 15% of Republicans.

    • Avid Amoeba
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      58% of Democrats said they approved of the anti-ICE protests, compared to 15% of Republicans.

      I wonder how does it compare to previous iterations of large protests.

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      Generally not how polling works, only 34% approved and the remainder is just no response.

      75% of Republican respondents approved of the National Guard deployment, only 68% for the Marines deployment.

    • albert180
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      Libertarians are just right wing fascists who don’t like paying taxes

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        Wrong. Libertarian understand that the slavery is still here. Watch the movie Jones Plantation to understand it deeper if it is not that obvious yet. Involuntary taxation is theft. Government is the largest criminal organization.