• @[email protected]
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      1726 days ago

      Lemme.ee got so toxic that the admins bailed. Nobody in the community supported the leads or stepped up to replace them. Whomever was fronting the money to keep the instance hosted got fed up and decided to shut it down.

      Now there’s a big ceremonial cry-in for an instance that ate itself with dysfunction, because… idfk.

      • @[email protected]
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        That’s not what happened. It wasn’t any more or less toxic than any other place on the internet, the lead admin just got burnt out. He asked the community for volunteers to moderate the instance and apparently nobody showed up.

        So he’s shutting down the instance next month. It wasn’t dysfunctional or toxic, he just sacrificed a lot and AFAIK never even broke even with server costs.

        The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.

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          I’ve modded some small but active enough to need real coverage subs on reddit. It’s a real job. People are too weird to self-moderate.

        • @[email protected]
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          1226 days ago

          the lead admin just got burnt out. He asked the community for volunteers to moderate the instance and apparently nobody showed up.

          :-/

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          Yeah, I gave volunteering a good, long think because I’m mostly sure I’ve got the right proficiencies for it, but my plate’s already overflowing as it is. I like lemm.ee, but when I sat down and considered my priorities IRL, I am legitimately sorry to say that it didn’t make the cut. I guess everyone else did that same math.

      • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]OP
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        Now there’s a big ceremonial cry-in for an instance

        Tbh I thought it was low-hanging fruit and I wondered why no one was picking it.

      • scytale
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        Talk about over exaggeration lol. Lemm.ee was fine and well run, I enjoyed it more than being on .world. They just didn’t have enough people willing to be admins.

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    Dang. Thank you for posting this; most informative shitpost ever! (I missed the official announcement.)

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    Now don’t get me wrong, I am not hype about moving from a great instance, but I feel this has been a great demonstration of why the federation is a good idea. All in all, migrating has been a fairly smooth experience, and most communities are either on other places or are moving fairly structured. Previously, closure of services or enshitification has caused me to spend weeks to months hunting for new places to read. This has been a great experience in most ways, and I think I can live happily jumping from instance to instance like this for a few years until I give up and set up my own.

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      lemm.ee be real. your instance is fucked.

      onto the next one.

      but that’s the beauty of the fediverse… you can’t stop us all.

      one for all, all for one

    • JackbyDev
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      Also, old content won’t be gone. It’ll still be around. Hell, people can still even reply to stuff. Inactive lemm.ee communities won’t have new comments propagate to instances past where the original commenter is from, but still!

      • @[email protected]
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        Partially, at least not what I use regularly. The account settings has a system for exporting settings, communities and block lists. You cant really retroactively move comments and posts to have been made by another user, but making a post on both the old and new users claiming eachother should propagate to other instances and be archived correctly.

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    the posts and comments will still live in other instances, but yeah, they should be looking for another one

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    I’ve started the process of moving my communities and stuff, but I plan on continuing to post on .ee until it goes down. Btw, is there an easy way to check which instances a Lemmy/piefed instance is defederated from?

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    there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll.

    While I respect their decision I feel like these people will just move on to other instances to do the same thing.

    I don’t know all the details but it smells a bit “tolerant of the intolerant” and that these people should have been shown the door before it got to the point of shutting down (other reasons aside - they’re all valid)

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      The bad actors probably will move. But the problem is 99% of instance admins are volunteers and do it because they want to. It’s much harder to deal with that shit when it’s a labor of love and you’re not getting paid.

      Most were “shown the door” as you mentioned but like spam, it’s a tsunami that’s hard to deal with on a large scale.

      • @[email protected]
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        226 days ago

        Absolutely, but these problems are common to all the instances. Maybe I interpreted it wrong, it sounded like they were directly engaging the bad actors over management of the platform, and doing that rather than just quietly banning them and moving on.

        And to be clear I’m all for open collaboration and taking feedback, but I’ve seen this occur for Lemmy apps where loud and overbearing voices try and dominate the conversation to the benefit of noone, until Devs either stop responding or shut things down.

        Regardless, it’s sad to lose an instance and I hope the admins find something rewarding to invest in without having to deal with the internet’s worst members.