• @[email protected]
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    No one gives a fuck that you’re sad. You voted for this. You participated in harming those people. You don’t get pitty for having to confront the consequences of your actions. Maybe put more thought than “I don’t like taxes” Into your next vote, dumbass.

  • @[email protected]
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    “This wasn’t supposed to happen to the nice immigrants I use know, just the bad ones Fox News tells me about!”

    • @[email protected]
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      71 month ago

      That’s exactly it. Fox News demonizes and de-humanizes every minority group. I remember around 20 years ago, my grandparents got an openly gay couple as neighbors. My grandparents were shocked that their neighbors were just regular people.

      They had watched enough conservative media that they had been convinced gay people were some sort of twisted abominations who were out to destroy our way of life.

      Conservative media does that for every minority group (except the rich). Gays, immigrants, single mothers, the poor, atheists, trans people, educated people, etc. You name it, Fox News and co are constantly pushing this idea that anyone not like you (their audience) are your enemies and are trying to destroy America.

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    Isn’t it also illegal to hire them? This guy should be arrested.

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      I genuinely don’t know what to do with people like him. On the one hand… Yeah. He knowingly hired undocumented people, making him a hypocrite, and he just voted to have those people forcibly deported against his own interests, making him a fucking dumbass.

      At the same time, he seems to be showing actual remorse, and that should definitely be encouraged. The only - only - way this country has even the slightest shot at recovery is by flipping large numbers of the orange shit-gibbon’s supporters, like this guy.

      I really want to believe that’s possible. I don’t think it is, but I want to believe it.

      Edit: Missed the part in the article where these guys had valid work visas.

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        Yes, which should give ICE supporters a moment to pause and consider two things. First, anyone could be an immigrant. It could be their neighbors and coworkers. Documentation can be faked or doctored or just expired, and the immigration process is deliberately complex.

        Second, ICE isn’t being careful about who they abduct and deport. There’s no process, much less due process, and it can literally happen to any person, immigrant or native born, legal or otherwise.

        • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)
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          Steven Miller seems to be calling the shots on this, and his test is do they “pass as white”? If yes, move along, if not, arrest and sort it out later as they are potentially “monsters” and sub-human. And being wrong has so far had no consequences.

      • watson
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        If they have work permits they’re not illegal and shouldn’t have been snatched up anyway.

        • @[email protected]
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          There’s many articles out there about ice and organization, grabbing the wrong people or people who are properly identified, but their actual legal status mislabeled. As far as I’m concerned, ice is completely incompetent and they shouldn’t be enforcing any laws whatsoever at this point. 

          • watson
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            I completely agree. ICE is nothing but Gestapo trash.

        • Billiam
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          They’ve been given the go-ahead to go full mask-off racist:

          • @[email protected]
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            41 month ago

            I wonder if Benny Johnson started bleating out the same thing. That guy has one of the most punchable faces I’ve ever seen, by the way.

        • @[email protected]
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          GestICEpo is arresting first and asking questions later (how long is the process going to take? Are they going to get lost in a prison somewhere for months?).

    • defunct_punk
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      91 month ago

      Article says the workers were legally here on visas which hopefully opens the guy’s eyes even more

      • @[email protected]
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        What’s happening here cheapens what’s happening here. I guarantee this guy will still vote Republican next election. Maybe not Trump specifically, but I guarantee he won’t be voting for a Democrat. This isn’t a news story, it’s the entirely predictable outcome. Republicans never care about something until it impacts them directly, but even when it does they don’t change their behavior.

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          Yeah they the Republican voter never see their obstacles as something to be resolved by policy or legislation. They just need an exception, everything works fine it’s just the situation they found themselves in that is regrettable.

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            Oh I read something interesting about that once. I think it came at it as big city vs urban modes of thought.

            Someone who lives in a big city surrounded by many people realizes quickly you need robust systems. You just don’t have the time to handle every case as a unique circumstance. So you have laws and regulations to shift things earlier in the process when they’re easier to deal with (eg: fire codes before the building gets built, instead of no codes and a fire hazard)

            The other mode doesn’t think like that. They can have simple laws on the books, and if there’s a problem they’ll just go talk it out with Brian the sheriff. Sure abortion is bad but you know little Suzie she just made a mistake, you can make an exception for her, right?

            Obviously the “treat every case as special and rely on informal social connections” doesn’t scale or consistently deliver fair, just, outcomes. But according to some half remembered post I read, that’s how some right wing people view the world. You can have draconian laws, but the people enforcing them know when to apply them (against those assholes) and when not (for good folks who made a mistake)

            So, I guess, corruption.

      • Nougat
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        Language changing before your eyes is cool. Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra.

    • @[email protected]
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      worse, devastated that the leopards are the faces of people he exploits, and that will cost him money

  • @[email protected]
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    Scardina says he voted for Trump and still supports many of the former president’s policies, but this isn’t what he signed up for. “Buyer’s remorse? I don’t know, a little bit,” he said.

    Nope. You don’t get to trot out that bullshit. Project 2025 was available online. Nothing would be a surprise if you’d been a little bit curious about it. The man is following a well-reported plan. You just lived in echo chambers that told you to feel good about him.

    Scardina isn’t alone. He says other contractors in the area are being hit hard too. “I know of one landscaper that lost nine or 10 of his whole crew he had and he’s just totally out of business all of a sudden, just like that.”

    Absolutely no sympathy coming from me.

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    Sounds like someone is having the day they voted for.

    But also fuck him for making me have the day he voted for, more broadly speaking.

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    He heard Trump describing migrants as criminals and asylum seekers as frauds and thought that couldn’t possibly be describing his workers, who are not criminals or frauds.

    He didn’t stop to consider that the characterization was a lie.

  • @[email protected]
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    301 month ago

    At least this guy seems to care about the people themselves. He’s still a dumbfuck but not irredeemable.

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      He only cares about the people he depends on. It’s not empathy, it’s self-interest. That’s nothing to give him credit for, and there’s no reason to believe that he’s redeemable based on that.

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        Was going to start with thinking that, but then watched the video. I’m hearing far more “My friend runs a land scaping business, and he lost 10 or so, he’s going out of business”. Then comments on how they don’t live in a big city and they don’t know how they are going to find people to hire. Finally in the last 15 seconds he tears up and says he got to know them as friends and he hates seeing what it did to them and their families.

        So yeah… feels like “I won’t make money”, “I’ll lose my business”, and “oh yeah they were good people who I hate to see their lives ruined”.

        • @[email protected]
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          Reminds me of a guy who came to my door to get me to sign a survey to stop an ice cream shop from opening up down the street. Except, he started with the argument that he thought would get agreement and ended with the way it would affect him.

          He started by talking about how dangerous it would be for children because the ice cream shop was going to be next to railroad tracks.

          I pointed out that the kids who would cross the tracks occasionally for ice cream were already crossing the tracks every day to get to the elementary school. He then shared his true reason: he lived next door to the proposed ice cream shop and didn’t want to deal with the crowds or trash.

          When I suggested his “think of the children” argument was dishonest, he got a bit angry with me. I might have ended the discussion by telling him to fuck off.

          He didn’t prevail. Ice cream won out as it often does. When we moved here a few years before, the first thing we said when we saw that little building was that it would be perfect for a little ice cream shop.

        • @[email protected]
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          If I remember correctly, they weren’t undocumented. They were in the country and working legally.

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      My comment was deleted for being too hardcore I guess (even though it got upvotes, so at least someone agrees with me). But I spoke zero lies and I 100% stand by what I said.

      Regardless, I’ll rephrase in a gentler way: empathy is wasted on these people. They are effectively irredeemable.

      I say we dispense with empathy. Casting pearls before swine, and all that.

      If we wish to defeat Fascism, we cannot be gentle.

      Our grandfathers who defeated Fascism in Europe didn’t do it by being understanding and forgiving. Allied soldiers dragged German citizens to the concentration camps and made them look at it.

      Sometimes shaming is exactly what you need to do.

      • @[email protected]
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        I think this is one of those pearl clutching communities. Borderline collaboration, but it’s their power to enforce their rules.

      • @[email protected]
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        Agreed. They need to pay for this in some way. We may have to use Stalin-esque techniques to get rid of the MAGAt infestation. So, using crypto, we can pay unscrupulous world leaders to host YT men and women in gulags. And their children adopted out to rich 3rd world country residents. How they’d love to have Lilly YT babies. All you need to do is do this to 1/3 of the YT population, and focus on the Trump voting majority areas. YT people want to kill democracy to stay at the top? Well, then they should shoulder the responsibility for this crime.