Lemmy is how Reddit was in 2010. Size is what degrades the experience, the larger Reddit got the more shit it became. I am hopeful that federation will be the secret sauce that saves Lemmy from the same enshittification as it grows.
Less alt right stuff here on Lemmy than there was back in 2010, though. Early Reddit was full of libertarian ideals and free speech absolutists, before the consequences of those positions became apparent in the later half of that decade.
It was around Trump’s first presidency that half of Reddit realized the other half of Reddit wasn’t just memeing, the alt right went to their safe spaces, and Reddit began purging itself of all that was not marketable (good and bad).
The paid agents probably don’t consider the Lemmy communities big enough to invest time polluting them most of the time, it’s just not cost-effective.
As the Buddhist monks say : “poverty is our shield”
Reddit wasn’t big enough back then either, it was only since Spez took over after Ellen Pao that you started to see more corporatization/astroturfing of the platform.
A website full of young 20-something gamers and tech bros just tends to skew a certain way politically.
The gamers idk, honestly, it’s hit and miss. You can have the multiplayer game addicts that start with racial slurs and end shooting up folks, but you can also have the ‘radical’ leftist (they’re just empathetic in the West, considered a crime by some there!) with the green hair. The tech bros (because of their inherent greed and superficiality), certainly.
I’d argue earlier. Before the largest digg exodus. 2010 already had custom subs and supported some niche comms
From what I’ve experienced, it feels toxic in a bizarre liberal, Linux-nerd white knight kindof way. Which I think almost wraps back around to not being toxic at all and just feeling friendly in a passive aggressive way? Like going to a computer convention held on a hot, sunny beach. Sure, every here mostly agrees and likes the same geeky stuff but we can easily be too cranky about it, one way or another. Lemmy seems way more likely to engage in real conversation in comments and not just one-line jokes than Reddit. People seem more passionate about their hobbies or viewpoints. More likely to help if asked directly and detailed in response. It’s a cool place!
Classic liberal or social liberal ? (=american or european ?)
Their filthy neckbeard echo chamber
vs
our glorious neckbeard echo chamber
I didn’t use Reddit towards the end so I might be a bit wrong but overall it feels a lot more likely that you will bump into the same people on here. Its nice that you don’t really get your karma farming GallowBoob types.
The misogyny on here seems more intense though even if the mods and admins are more on top of it.
seems alot less here, unless your trying to go to female communities to tell them otherwise.
Most of it tends to be where a woman will mention experiencing something disproportionately, as a woman, and there will always be a man in the replies saying that men experience it to.
There is a recurring thing on poor consent towards women’s bodies too, particularly whenever SWers are mentioned. That’s more of a carry over from Reddit though.
Hey, men experience disproportionate things, too. Like privilege.
Similar but distinct. Much further left for one thing.
Also, the average level of tech knowledge here is off the charts. Like I feel like a caveman and in my office I’m the one people to go through for help. Never felt like that on Reddit.
fellow in-between, how can we describe ourselves? the one that everyone comes to for tech support (eg we know how to ctrl+v) but around actual programmers we just stare blankly.
I tried to create an account on db0 and the application wanted to know my favortie OSS creator or something, I just told them i have no idea what that means but I’ll be nice. if we had a word for what we are, I’d have used that!
We also asked for your favourite anarchist or pirate. We’re not just techie :)
In case you didn’t know, OSS stands for Open Source Software, like Firefox, Linux, Lemmy etc ;)
cool thank you! and to be clear, you all were nice enough to approve me anyways. db0 seems like a good spot. rip to lemm.ee
That’s an interesting question and one that’s worth exploring. Reddit certainly has been the source of many homegrown memes, common retorts, and witticisms used across the web. But here, you can try switching to Linux. Download various distros for free and try out combinations of release cycle, built-in apps, and desktop environment to find your favorite.
Yes, as much as I dislike the increasingly moralist culture on there, it still has a bunch of great contributions, if you care to sift through the awful interface. Sadly it’s got achievements now, which in my experience were so far confined to games. It’s not something I want popping in a corner of my monitor completely unprompted while I am trying to focus on an insightful comment. Not the kind of thing you get with free software… my last experience with Linux was Fedora 20-something, one which I aim to reiterate now, fifteen years later, that Wayland has improved to the point of letting me use my hardware to its full potential (drawing tablet, multiple monitors, etc). I’ve already installed Mint on my wife’s laptop, which she enjoys very much (because it gets out of her way), and I think I might go for Fedora again for my workstation later this year, or maybe Manjaro, who knows.
Sadly it’s got achievements now
What did I miss? Does Linux has achievements now??
Reddit does
Oh, okey. Yeah, I can live without that too.
People seem nicer here in general.
So far, it’s definitely less toxic
Fewer conservative dickheads, less crypto-bro bullshit, fewer incels and the like
Someone made a joke that didn’t land well. I called them out for it, because it looked like they were being a misogynistic prick. We had a back and forth, they edited their comment to make it clear that it was a joke, not a bigoted belief, we had a good conversation and even a few others joined in with a swell of positivity
On reddit it would have probably escalated into something unpleasant, but here everyone actually had a laugh about it and we all noted the difference in positivity
There are still creepy children posting stuff in places like asklemmynsfw and annoying porn bots, but it’s still better overall by a lot
It’s going to be interesting to see what Digg becomes
Absolutely the same material, just less density so instead of the instant “fuck you” here we can see an additional “what do you mean by that?!” stage. And less people with ban ability.
Eventually, when our numbers will grow significantly, you won’t be able to distinguish this place from Reddit.
Reddit was shitty, just because it’s people and people suck. But I hung around because…I’m a masochist I guess. I left because of the 3rd party shit. I’ve never gone back. As that great '80s pop band said,“People are people.”
For me it is not the same because shittiness of the head board also counts a lot in the equation. Because of the federation you have some opportunity to find variations that help you being more comfortable.
Eventually, when our numbers will grow significantly, you won’t be able to distinguish this place from Reddit.
You will always be able to distinguish this place from Reddit. There are no ads or “sponsored” posts here on Lemmy.
Not official, labeled ones but eventually if it gets too popular, marketing teams will just create fake users and post ads as fake posts. Same as Reddit and any other social media platform has problems with
I actually think it’s way more like 4chan than reddit.
Niche threads are small handful of people every time, people feel pretty safe to get nasty really quick, and wild mix of people thinking it’s their safe space full of people that agree with them entirely from anarchists to fascists.
Also likely to see a random porn or furry post.You can just turn on the NSFW filter for your main feed. Removes pretty much everything except the “moe” communities.
Sidenote: you Moe people are weird af. Please tag your communities as NSFW. I would honestly rather have someone look over my shoulder and see a hardcore gangbang post than see me looking at fully clothed anime girls.
I block the moe communities when they pop up. e: I’m not against it, I just don’t care.
What are those moe people?
Moe is a cutsey anime style, iirc.
Moe is when you take your fetish/the type of girl you like, then draw an anime girl about it. But the girl is cute, not sexy, and fully clothed and doing normal, not sexy things. It is very weird. I do not understand this level of sexual repression. It feels like the online porn art equivalent of getting a human shaped pillow to hug while you sleep at night.
I dunno, I mean, I never saw such an obsession with beans on reddit.
Whether that’s a better, different kind of shitposting or exactly the same kind of shitposting is up to you.
I still don’t know what started the bean thing or really what it even was. I joined while the posts were still happening, but by that point they were clearly for people already in on the joke.
Look for the all time top post on lemmy.
It might not explain it or give you a clearer view but its absolutly beans
You clearly have never visited r/beansinthings
fuck me and that sub was made in 2017
yeah nevermind it’s exactly the same type of shitposting.
A real human bean
I’ve seen less whining about downvotes, “you can’t say x on y subreddit” meta comments, and general persecution fetish stuff. Probably just due to less people, but it’s still a relief not to have to see it constantly.
100% has different cultures, however:
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Not necessarily better, due to lack of enforceable centralized moderation policy a lot of morally grey or dark communities and instances exist, and it is more susceptible to bots.
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Reddit was so absolutely massive compared to current Lemmy that it naturally did have more niches.
lack of enforceable centralized moderation policy a lot of morally grey or dark communities and instances exist, and it is more susceptible to bots.
You got an example?
Centralized modding permitted jailbait on reddit… Which can easily be a crime…
There are literally multiple Lemmy communities promoting youthful pornographic imagery, if not outright child pornography, so mentioning that Reddit had a scandal over the same content which they then proceeded to shutdown definitely isn’t an argument in Lemmy’s favor.
We also have militant extremist communities and advocacies for foreign dictatorships here, like all of Hexbear for example.
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The Westerners are slightly/somewhat less imperialistic, which is great. Also, people are visibly not as intellectually challenged.
Generally the same culture, but skewed towards more tech savvy types and online-centric culture groups. It’s a lot smaller than reddit, which helps a lot with the quality of interactions, but I think if it grew enough it would end up very close to reddit culture.
It feels the same as when I originally got on Reddit 15 years ago. Not so much the culture of Reddit 10 years later, and definitely not at all like Reddit is now.
I feel the same way about it. There was a time when reddit, at least large parts of it, was a fairly decent place. That gradually changed, for a lot of different reason, until it became the mess it is now.
Lemmy feels more like the early reddit, before everyone gave up on real interactions and basic civility. We have our own problems, but the decentralized model tends to work in our favor instead of against us. Any given community, or even site, can still go to hell if the participants want it to and the moderators/admins allow it. The difference is that other communities and sites are not automatically dragged down along with it.
I think it also helps that a lot of the folks here have seen things go wrong, on reddit and elsewhere, and want to do better. There is a world of difference between skepticism and cynicism. So far, we seem to be mostly coming down on the right side of that. It’s amazing how much better things are when you treat others as human beings and don’t assume that nothing really matters.
half of the site has been overrun by russian bots, now its israeli, and Palintir bots.
