The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

Just when I feel like dystopian news can’t really disturb me anymore…

Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all…

How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target’s family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

  • @[email protected]
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    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel’s current actions say this wasn’t a simple “what if…” contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.

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      This was clear since such a big and supposedly effective intelligence apparatus failed to stop or warn about the Hamas attack that gave Israel pretext to go full ethnic cleaning and warmongering.

      They knew, they allowed it, and paid a modest price in Israeli casualties to kickstart their plan. Also, Ukraine was attracting all the war funding, they couldn’t risk USA reducing their military allowance.

      I hate that USA is enabling them, and at the same time being hipocritical about wanting a peaceful solution. Cut their funding if you want to stop them. Freeze their assets like NATO did with Russia. Act, don’t talk.

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        It would take one phone call from the President, and the genocide would stop. Biden could have done it, and Trump still can. I don’t see the US governments unwavering support of Israel ever ending.

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            I don’t see how that is naive at all. We prop Israel up. If the president calls Bibi and threatens to stop all aid, unless they imposed a ceasefire, it would happen. They have so much power, tech and weaponry because we give it to them. If we pointed the barrel of the most powerful military on earth at them, they would cease immediately.

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              This will never happen tho. People don’t become president without complete subjugation to the hegemonic narrative (including zionism). Complete fantasy.

              • Jessica
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                Oh I never said it would happen. It will never happen.

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              The president of the US doesn’t have their hand up the PM of Israel’s ass. This is especially true of Biden who was known to be on his way out either way. We can withdraw support but its difficult for the US pres to do so unilaterally when Israel is politically popular on both side. Given the lack of power to make it stick such a phone call from Biden would have been ignored in favor of waiting for a change of regime.

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        I hate that USA is enabling them,

        USA is just as guilty as the genocidal cult, perhaps even more so. Somehow I have more sympathy for the brainwashed than the profiteering.

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        There we again with the israel has superior inteligence that can’t never make mistakes bs.

        Israel has many impressive operations but it doesn’t mean everything bad happen in israel is just according to a plan

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      I mean, that’s not really surprising. Every military makes plans for any contingency, and Israel especially has always been paranoid about Iran’s nuclear programme, so of course they would make sure they’re tracking the scientists in case they needed to make a move.

      The disgusting part is them just pulling the trigger for political reasons instead of actual intelligence that indicates a breakout. And obviously killing civilians, which the scientists and their families are, but obviously Israel has shown in the past they don’t care about that.

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      Fuck, also explains why Netenyahu jumped at the opportunity as soon as he avoided having his government dissolved by vote. Fuuuuck this is so much evil bullshit.

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        I strongly recommend you to listen to Ilan Pappe. He describes well how Israels society has deep internal rifts as the narrative of Zionism ultimately failed to build a cohesive society.

        So ultimately Israel needs the eternal war for two main reasons:

        1. To keep the support by its western lapdogs up, by presenting itself as the eternal victim under war.
        2. To keep the internal pressure contained by the necessity to hold together because of war.

        See for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9rr3j7vZGo

      • @[email protected]
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        Iran has the right to defend themselves and israel has proven again that Iran is in need of this defense.

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          iran shouldn’t have funded hamas and terrorist activity around the world. Iran fucked around and now its finding out.

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              the terrorist state that launched a war against real terrorists after they murdered over 1200 people and took hundreds of people including children hostage.

              your REAL terrorist propaganda doesn’t work on me. blocked.

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        It’s civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.

        You’re part of the problem.

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            I’m not saying they couldn’t be. I’m saying that the official body meant to oversee this has not yet put out proof that they are. So we can imagine all we want. If the professional independent watchdog that is checking for this has not officially made a statement with undeniable proof that they are, they aren’t.

            Who has more insight in the matter, you or the IAEA?

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          It’s civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.

          Is it though? What level of enrichment do they need for a nuclear energy program, and what level of enrichment were they at? I think it’s naive to say they weren’t working on a weapon.

          I’m not saying it justifies killing civilian scientists, but we ought to be honest about the why.

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            Where is the evidence that they are working on a weapon? There are people getting murdered because people have become brainwashed enough to just assume Iran is working on a nukes.

            I’m just saying, killing civilians on the basis of assumption is a pretty terrorist move and feels very similar to how Iraq was bombed to hell by America. But hey, that’s just my 2 cents.

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              According to the IAEA, the Natanz site was producing uranium enriched to 60% u-235.

              For electricity, you need 3-5% u-235.

              That’s not an energy program, that’s a weapons program.

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                And it’s on the IAEA to declare that they are indeed working on a weapons program, not speculation and assumption like yours.

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                  And it’s on the IAEA to declare that they are indeed working on a weapons program, not speculation and assumption like yours.

                  Okay. Don’t use your reason if you’d prefer not to. It does make me wonder though:

                  Do you think the killing of the civilian scientists was wrong because they were civilian scientists, or because they were ostensibly working on an energy program?

                  Because as I said, I’m not claiming the murders were justified, just that we ought to be honest about the why.

                  There are plenty making the argument that Iran needs a nuclear weapons program to prevent exactly these types of attacks. That is intellectually honest. I’m not sure where I fall on that argument, I’d rather no one have nuclear weapons (but obviously that’s not going to happen).

                  The difference between 5% and 60% enrichment is pretty huge. And the research and effort required to get there is neither cheap nor easy. If what they’re after is nuclear energy, there is absolutely no reason to continue risking the ire of the international community and the repeated attacks by Israel. They’ve had energy-level uranium for a very long time already.

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        I’m sure you still think it was a great thing we got to iraq before they set off those wmd’s

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      November, you say? I wonder what happened in November that caused Netanyahu to be emboldened to the point of planning Iranian assassinations…

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        Yeah it’s not that Israel is planning this, it’s that this is the plan of Israel the whole thing is this plan.

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    They are flying jets, using drones, and even small explosives. The homes of these scientists were severely damaged. The richest countries of the world are backing Israel.

    Is this just Israel putting out propaganda? These scientists thought they were safe at home. Sinister! Super secret weapon that blows up apartment buildings. Sounds revolutionary!

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      As usual this is teenage boy logic. They are posing with their guns as recruitment propaganda. No it’s a super secret magic cool gun from god you haven’t even heard of it because it’s so futuristic and we’re cool so not at all evil, right

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    I wonder how many civilians Israel killed in the process. It’s probably a lot more than 0.

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          Clearly Iran and Palestine

          Financing multiple group of terrorists which biggest victims are the own countries the terrorist come from sounds pretty evil

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            You know Israel escorted cases full of millions of dollars in cash into Gaza to Hamas every month. It was a well known thing. So if funding Hamas was funding terrorism, Israel was well aware and supporting it.

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    What is to stop the ultra wealthy from simply each making a million of these AI commanded drones, and just…killing all the poor? ALL of them? ALL OF US?!

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      because the ultra wealthy can’t cook, can’t produce the stuff needed to cook, can’t build super cars or private jets or build mansions, they can’t make the latest high tech gadgets, they can’t produce the most stylish of clothes or expensive watches. That’s why they keep us around. They need us plebs to make them stuff and produce their wealth to purchase the shit we make.

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      The rich are only rich because the money they possess can be exchanged directly or indirectly for people’s labour. Without it, the money is valueless and the rich cease to be. It’s also one reason why labour strikes are so effective and the rich have had to create militias to prevent them.

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      The ratio of poor to ultra wealthy is far greater than a million to one. Other than that, the only practical reason they have for not doing it is that they still need human labor for most of what they do. That isn’t going to change anytime soon, despite AI. However, they don’t need their labor force to be free or happy, which is why the US is on the cusp of a fascist takeover.

      The rule of law has largely stopped mattering to the ultra wealthy. It may occasionally inconvenience them, but they know it will never affect them in any personal way.

      Not all of the ultra wealthy are socipaths. Unfortunately, terminal-stage capitalism does a surprisingly good job of selecting for sociopathy at the very top of the hierarchy. Becoming that rich requires both a strong belief that you deserve it and a disregard for how acquiring it harms others.

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      Then who would they lord over and whose hard work would they make their money off of, on the other hand using these threats to bring back slavery feels like the scarier future to me

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        We in the USA are telling farmers that they won’t deport their labor if they are accountable to them. They can very easily have those who defect or resist in any way deported to concentration camps. They can also be imprisoned for trying to slip over the border the other way.

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      Because drones are expensive, and it would be a waste of money to use them on poor people.

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      Pretty much this and the answer is nothing. This is the world we have created where people are murdered just because. We are the ultimate terrorist.

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      Why would anyone do this? Why wouldn’t the normal legal process supported by all the rest of the rich bozos stop the one Uber rich psycho.

      Why would anyone not notice a million terminators being made before they were unleashed?

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      Are you just like that by default or are you just missing your daily pills?

      Maybe stop projecting your inner traumas towards the world, and get help. Can’t be possible to live a healthy life with that mindset

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    How can people be so fucking stupid as to keep their key personnel vulnerable like that?

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    What is the endgame here? They certainly can’t be delusional enough to assume that killing civilians or bombing facilities will ingratiate them with the Iranian people to overthrow the government or even making the government surrender; how many more people will they radicalize through this process? How many more lives do they want to destroy? When will the middle east have peace?

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    I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.

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    Think about this when you see politicians trying to pass absurd laws like banning all regulation of AI. AI is a cover to remove any last semblance of accountability for atrocious and illegal activities

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      Exactly. There need to be rules that make people responsible for decisions made by software.

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      Politicians attempting to ban AI regulation are only shielding OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, etc. Those same politicians will pearl clutch about Hugging Face or DeepSeek in the same breath. It’s just about money and the arms race. Abdicating responsibility to AI would require either a change in how we regulate people or a granting of rights/responsibility to AI. Though I don’t doubt we will see people try to blame AI for their poor decisions.

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        It was a joke. The weapon used by Israel is secret. Jewish space lasers is a reference to an idiotic tweet by Marjorie Taylor Greene that suggested that the 2018 California wildfires were started by some global conspiracy group with an “energy-based” space weapon. The user you replied to is saying they’re going to be upset if it turns out Israel actually does have space lasers.