The Orville.
I’m sorry! I’m a trekkie so I really wanted to love it. I can’t stand Seth McFarlane, though, and apparently it isn’t just his animated shows like Family Guy or American Dad that I hate.
It started out being a Seth McFarlane show but quickly became a pretty legit sci Fi show. McFarlane has always been a Trekkie, he was even in Enterprise, so he actually tries to do right by it once he gets most of the Family Guy type humour out of his system
I’m convinced that the only way he got it greenlit was by selling it as “family guy in space” even though that’s not what he wanted to do. So he hammed that up for the first couple of episodes to make the suits happy before phasing it out and making the show he actually wanted.
That…makes a lot of sense lol. That’s exactly how it plays out, yeah. I think it’s a wonderful addition to Trekkie-type show catalogues, personally.
Yeah, or that it wasn’t even sneaky, they just all agreed a couple of those episodes up front would broaden the appeal, and felt confident people would stick around once they got attached to the characters and into the sci-fi
Would it help if I told you that his particular brand of humour stops being the focal point after a bit? Iirc it doesn’t last into the second season and is then replaced by actually thoughtful storytelling with light humour sprinkled on top.
Maybe. I think I stopped watching after the social credit episode in the first season. Maybe I’ll check it out again if I ever have another reason to get Hulu.
Thanks ^^
The first season, like all trek, is desperately trying to find its footing. That episode and 1-2 others could probably just straight up be skipped like how when I was looking for the best way to watch TNG for the first time the top ways I saw were “watch the first and last episode of season 1 and skip the rest”.
Once the show gets its footing it gets really good really quickly.
I’ll be honest: I haven’t made it past (or even to the end of) that episode either. I’ve tried a couple of times, but end up stopping after a few minutes just from the sheer cringe.
And I really like the rest of the show, to the point where I don’t want to skip any episodes, but that one I really ought to skip.
if it wasnt in the show it wouldve been fine, but him being part of the cast makes the series questionable, hes not that good as actor, hes better at writing. ALso problems around him being involved with the writing has caused the series to barely make seasons in general, this has caused financial problems for some of the actors, and production too. having 36 episodes in 6 years is pretty bad. this was all from pallacki interview on michaels podcast.
Just to make sure, you didn’t only watch season 1 episodes, right? The show gets a lot better and leans less on the Family Guy humor as it goes along.
EDIT: I saw you said you watched up until s1e7 in another comment. That episode in particular annoyed me for being a worse version of the Black Mirror s3e1 episode Nosedive. It’s worth trying some later season episodes if you ever get the chance to see if you like them any better. And check out Nosedive as well!
I started watching Star Trek because I loved The Orville. I didn’t know people had such hatred for it.
nutrek is pretty bad to be honest. the animated series is much better than thier 3 series.
I really liked Orville, I was going to try star trek at some point
Its biggest influence is Next Generation, but Strange New Worlds is the closest modern Trek in that style if you don’t like old 90s shows.
Definitely got some Lower Decks vibes as well. Are they ever gonna make more Orville seasons?
Lower Decks is awesome, although you’ll get more out of it if you’ve seen the 90s Trek shows as they’re referenced often. Not required, though. There actually is going to be a 4th season of Orville, but it’s about a year away currently.
Some do, but I think The Orville is a much better Star Trek show than Discovery in particular.
The Office
It makes my skin crawl.
I’ve seen so many memes of it but I just couldn’t get into it either!
The memes are funny though lol. Just not the show.
Same. If you want some actually laugh out loud hilarious cringe humor, I highly recommend Peep Show with Mitchell and Webb.
I will never forget the dog episode. This show was singed in my mind. Also a favorite of mine.
The turkey incident tho. (I need to do a rewatch.)
I love how you can just say the dog episode and everyone who’s seen the show knows exactly what you mean
The original UK version of The Office is pretty good too.
The British will always win at police procedural/mystery/dramas and deadpan comedies.
Or the police procedural mystery deadpan comedy A Touch Of Cloth!
Loved the original, but US remake has just all the corners filed and padded.
The British original was even worse! I don’t want to feel bad when watching a comedy!
Gotta laugh or else you’ll cry-ahh humour
I feel this for some British comedy shows. I love British comedies like IT Crowd, Black Books, Fleabag. But man, those shows that think making people cringe really hard is funny like the original Office doesn’t do it for me.
They’re meant to be more funny in a sense that you can relate to them as you’ve been in such situations and can now have the catharsis that you’re not alone in those experiences. And as people usually do with such situations that are awful in the moment, you laugh at them in hindsight.
That’s the intention of such cringe humour. Maybe the ones you listed have elements that relate more to your life than the ones you dislike? Or maybe they remind you of moments where the above just cannot apply to your emotional experience of them, and so they cannot be funny.
It’s cringe pretending to be humor.
same.
The Mandalorian.
Succession.
I love the Mandalorian, but the people on succession were all just so horrible that I couldn’t stomach watching it anymore. I didn’t wanna be around thoseawful awful people.
Maybe view it through a different lens. It was a dark comedy to me. I was constantly bursting out laughing at how much these entitled pricks couldn’t get out of their own way. They just play it straight and never give a wink to the audience
I won’t try to change your mind, but I rewatch all of Succession like every 6 months. As soon as I finish I have to stop myself from starting over right away. God it’s so good.
I do not understand why anyone like the mandalorian. The stupid baby yoda is terrible. The special effects are terrible. The main actors acting is terrible. The background/side actors acting is terrible. Jon Faverou or whatever is terrible. Disneys big stupid dome green screen is terrible and lazy.
Everything about that show is terrible, and it epitomizes every worry Star Wars fans had when Disney bought the ip.
Succession is a hot take that show is goated.
In your defense the mandalorian only has about 1 season worth watching, and most of that is pretty repetitive.
I found succession easier to watch from the second season onwards. Something about season 1 made me very uncomfortable, I’m not sure if it’s the program that changed after that, or maybe I got used to the style of it.
Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones
Couldn’t get past a season and the fandoms are just obnoxious.
It feels like all the breaking bad characters were designed to be the heel. I couldn’t stand any of them, and if I can’t stand any of the characters, why would i bother continuing watching the show?
I also didn’t like Breaking Bad (just finished it recently) - I don’t know if it’s because people kept hyping it up - but I do love Succession and that is another show where all characters are equally dislikable and I still liked them for it. So I guess Breaking Bad just isn’t it for me.
The first season of breaking bad is pretty slow, and the show runners really like the pattern of a slow start with an intense finish to each season. It gets better, but if you don’t like a slow burn it’s not worth the effort.
I love a slow burn, but Breaking Bad just never did it for me.
I really like (most of) game of thrones, but it’s a tough watch at times for sure. Breaking Bad on the other hand seemed to be nothing but a tough watch. Stopped watching when the mom starts smoking while pregnant. It was just too much, unrelenting misery for me. I can see it’s a really well made show, that deserves the praise, but I just can’t stomach it.
You don’t have to engage with the fandom while watching a thing
Game of Thrones. I stopped watching when Aquaman raped the blonde.
Then I started reading the books. the rape scene was written slightly different, so…whatever. Then I got to the part where the brother/sister threw the boy out the window. Done. Violence against kids is my line.
spoilers but if you had stuck around you get to see the guy who pushed him out the window get his comeuppance. he spends the next season as a prisoner of war and gets his sword hand cut off. it changes him almost completely
but then again thats not the only scene in the series with violence against kids so maybe it was best to stop there
In the books he was such a caring guy. The rape scene was just sensationalist claptrap.
Game of Thrones.
The incest didn’t bother me, but pushing a child out a window hit the wrong note with me and my wife.
The incest didn’t bother me
Uh…
Wait until you read literally any bit of human history.
That’s mild compared to later seasons. It does get pretty fucking sadistic.
I see where you’re coming from and it’s not for everyone.
Don’t check the Red Wedding scene on Youtube
Honestly good you got out. I still think about some of the darker parts of the books. The older and more aware I become the sicker they make me feel.
To clarify, the incest didn’t SHOCK me. Kids out of windows did.
I tried watching the first episode and turned off after 30 minutes because nothing happened. I had friends who loved watching it but it just seemed like a soap opera aimed at men—the drama was way too heavy for me.
Attack On Titan ( basically all the Anime )
One Punch Man is good. I enjoyed it
Also Mob Psycho 100 (same studio I think)
I watched Attack on Titan and thought it was ok. If you want to watch some good anime I thoroughly recommend the above
AOT took way too long to finish such a short series, no need to extend like almost 10years.
I guess you’re the opposite of a weeb, a beew.
Altered Carbon. I couldn’t get past the first episode. I love sci-fi but this just feels pretentious.
Severance. So. Goddamn. Slow.
I felt the same. I also think that we viewers have so much more information than the characters… so even though there’s mystery, we see the mysteries coming like 2 full episodes in advance. Yawn
Totally. I enjoy the premise of the show, but the delivery is sleep-inducing.
Big bang theory. Cannot stand the characters on that show, especially Sheldon
The best concise description of that show I’ve heard was “it’s what people who aren’t nerds think nerds would like”.
I remember watching the pilot for the show, I was like, “oh this could be refreshing away from the stupidity of the rest of tv!”. I was already onto anime by that point and had entirely stopped watching cable.
But no. Apparently, when the actual show started airing, it was EXACTLY as you describe, and a massive disappointment. Xbox and bad quips and trying to get girls? Absolutely not.
To be fair, the scene where Penny gifts Sheldon something like the glass Leonard Nimoy drank out of, for Christmas, had me crying with laughter. That’s about it, though.
Edit: The napkin he used, and then signed with a note.
i remember the sub that was discussing big ban theory how they turned penny into a stem professional into a total “bimbo” by the end of the series.
That show is literally trash.
I mean, this is Lemmy, it’s a show about making fun of us.
And honestly I’d respect that if they put effort into it, but “lol nerd” is like 90% of the plot.
Silicon Valley also makes fun of nerds, but it’s for nerds. BBT just made nerds the butt of the joke.
They’re not nerds. They’re geeks at worst and really just programmers.
When Sheldon says “Bazinga” I throw 10 metric tonnes of popcorn at the screen. Funniest thing I’ve ever seen /s
Yellowstone. I wanted to like it because Americans riding horses and doing cowboy gun things is a vibe, and I wanted to get that without actually having to travel there and be around Americans. It’s just so bad though.
It didn’t intrigue me but the old white guys at work like it so I knew there was something wrong with that show
conservative white people love the show.
If you haven’t already, you should give the spin offs a chance. Neither my wife or I can stand Yellowstone (we struggled through the first season and then gave up), but 1883 and 1923 are both fantastic shows.
What made the difference for you for the spin-offs?
I’m going to stick my neck out and say 1883 was one of the best shows I’ve seen on TV.
The Office
UK, US, or Aussie?
Literally every country on the planet.
Any and all “reality” TV.
I fully don’t get why people like that. It looks mean and dull and it’s not even reality. The sexy ones also look like a shit stand-in for actual porn, too.
they actively hire models, or attractive people on purpose. and many of them post show career, ends up as mlm, or worst on trumps administration, and of course porn too, sometimes they are pornstars before.
I like one category of reality tv and even then only a small subsection of them: Game Shows. The subsection in particular seems to be Japanese game shows subbed in English, the only ones I know so far tbh are Sasuke and Takeshi’s Castle. As to why, Sasuke is just cool and Makoto Nagano rules, plus it’s fun with the silly competitors. Takeshi’s Castle is just plain hilarious. Conversely I hate basically all american versions, American Ninja Warrior was ass and Wipeout was too, yet both were just stolen rebrandings of their Japanese counterparts with all the whimsy and fun sucked out.
And I’m mainly posting this to solicit recommendations for more Japanese game shows like that which I can pirate.
Haha okay I love Japanese game shows but I almost can’t call them reality. :P I recommend Silent Library. An older show but great.
I figure if Survivor counts (and people say it does) than those would too, but I feel you lol. I’ll check it out, thanks! The older the better tbh! Takeshi’s Castle was what like 1986ish?
I would put those in a completely separate category, actually. They’re both older and more real than the “engineered compilation of random unscripted moments” type of thing.
I have no recommendations, unfortunately, haha.
Well people consider Survivor reality tv, so idk I figured it was towards that genre. But whatever we consider it, I like it haha.
reality has always been trash, and they cancelled shows just so they can have that slop because it brings in the lowest common denominators.
Lost.
god help me it was so fucking boring and riddled with holes. I still don’t understand how it was so popular.
They did 2 things well (from an economic perspective) in my vaguely shit memory:
- built of the success of castaway a few years earlier and survivor
- marketed the absolute hell out of it pre-release. I remember hundreds of ads showing in the months leading to to it.
It paved the way for a lot of long running, high budget tv shows like heroes, supernatural etc…
I also severely disliked it.
Mr.Robot
So much drugs, depression, late stage capitalism.
Idk wtf I was watching. Too dark and too confusing. I thought I was watching a WW2 Holocause movie, the vibes was depressing AF.
Did I mention the drugs?
So. Much. Drugs.
There were More Drug Scenes than Plot Scenes that I actually understood.
(Maybe I just have a smooth brain who knows 🤷♂️)
It’s a great series but I agree, there’s a lot of depressing vibes. I binged it recently and ended up being getting paranoid riding trains haha
I watched it cause it was interesting to explore a scenario where the top 1% was targeted, especially considering what’s happening in the world right now.
These negative reviews make me really want to watch it. Most TV glosses over all uncomfortable truths.
some shows might jive with other people better than others. and many are as bad as the reviews.
I just love how the Elliot is like “I’m so lonely and depressed” and has like 8 close friends and gets a girlfriend and immediately gets intimate.
I would think it a bit more immersive if they made his depression about something else entirely from the start.
