I’m not trying to cause an argument but when Reddit pulled it’s bs - I said that’s enough. I gave up my Reddit addiction and didn’t open it or visit the site for over 30 days.
The tone and people on Lemmy is great. I don’t miss Reddit. But I miss the content types. For me Reddit was a topic related news source, a place for great discourse about those news pieces, a place where community members asked constructive questions or shared ideas/projects - and lastly a place for some very specific community types.
Over the last few days I noticed that the first 2 categories of content came over to Lemmy no problem. But the second 2 types I outlined above don’t seem to have come. I went back to Reddit this morning and it’s all still there. Certain types of posts just don’t happen on Lemmy, and on top of that many communities never came over (street_photography is a great example. They literally shut down a subreddit with thousands of users and created a new location in Lemmy/kbin, and instead of coming over the community just evaporated). Other communities are also non existent and some that do exist are simply just not enjoying the same types of posts. I like it here, I want to stay - but it’s difficult. Is anyone else having this issue?
Thanks for hearing me out.
TLDR: all of my communities seem to link posts only, many types of posts just don’t seem to happen here.
A lot of people (like myself) need to step out of their comfort zones if we want Lemmy to get more conversations going. Yesterday I made a game thread in the community for my favourite NFL team; I was the only one who commented. But I’m going to try and make one for the game next week.
I ended up subscribing to the Athletic since they have a discuss section. Any sports threads on lemmy are small af rn unfortunately
Not only are they small, they keep appearing in feeds and people downvote them because they don’t want to see sporting content instead of just blocking the community.
Well done, what is the community? [email protected] ?
Thanks. It’s a smaller instance for the Steelers, [email protected]
Ah no wonder you had no discussion
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I see. If I may, you may want to comment on a larger community, as a way to get more people reacting.
I used to post to [email protected] , but now I do it in [email protected] because it will have a larger audience.
Lemmy is still a small population, so you might to go to the larger common denominator
Thanks for the advice, there’s definitely a lot more people on the NFL community but the Steelers are generally not viewed well by the NFL fans at large haha.
I’ll join you during regular season.
No, but I would have trouble giving up Lemmy because I am quite content here.
When Reddit decided to backstab its app developers / community, I just full-on deleted my account. Makes it a lot easier to not go back when you actually remove the thing you’d go back to.
Think of it like recovering from alcoholism: are you more prone to relapse if you keep a bottle of some familiar brand of booze in your fridge? Or if you actually get it out of your house?
Sure you could go back to the store and buy another bottle (make a new account), but that hassle will help reinforce your decision not to. Keeping it in arm’s reach - different story.
Delete your account. Delete your reddit browser extentions, saved passwords, bookmarks, mobile apps… scrub that shit from your devices. You’ll find yourself much less tempted to relapse, and it’s liberating as fuck.
I miss a few features from Reddit; but I’m not making a new account and setting RES and such back up again to get them. Fuck that noise.
It is a right bitch that the reason to leave is 100% the bastards in charge. The community was fine. (Okay, giant asterisks all over that, but you know what I mean. The community was not the cause for masses walking away with a sea of middle fingers lit by burning bridges.)
I’m not here because it’s better. I’m here because fuck Spez. And fuck enshittification. Fifteen years and these greedy incompetents made it impossible to come back without feeling like betrayal. The only reason I’m not deleting anything is that I don’t do that shit. Nothing any human being put effort into deserves to be lost forever.
Elmo did us the favor of turning his stolen harassment engine into an all-stick-no-carrot experience in a fucking hurry.
Agreed. I miss things about reddit with its communities. There are parts of that browsing experience that a smaller userbase is simply unable to replace.
At the same time I have too much disgust with what happened to go crawling back because I need my content fix like some kind of addict. I mainly enjoyed Reddit for the long story posts on things like AskReddit or HobbyDrama, but it’s not like Reddit has a monopoly on “lots of text you can read”.
I’ve swapped over to reading ebooks instead, which I had entirely ceased doing since Reddit, and it’s been wonderful getting back in touch with that. After all these years I’d somehow never read the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, for example, so as one door closes another opens. It’s no true replacement, I did prefer the short story style of AskReddit and HobbyDrama, but it’s not bad enough that I’ll lose sight of why I left.
Honestly I miss reddit circa 2015. Obviously before The Idiot and half the world lurching toward fascism - but also back when “fuck off, Nazi” was treated better than being a goddamn Nazi.
The proliferation of “civility” is poisonous to online discourse. It is always the wrong metric. Trolls love being polite monsters. r/Politics even went a step further and demanded all opinions be taken in good faith. Do those idiots know what trolling is? Do they not understand bad faith… as a concept? It only works because people mistake it for good faith. Demanding everyone do that is a gift to trolls.
Moderation requires common-sense identification of who’s being an asshole. It’s never about no-no words. If a script could handle the job, we would let it.
Lemmy has far too many communities with rules going ‘never be rude to anyone ever!!!’ and then zero enforcement when someone calls you a cunt for gently correcting their grammar. That is the worst of both worlds. Anyone sincerely trying is going to hold back from just dealing with assholes appropriately, like an adult, but those people are then left with no recourse against pointlessly toxic shitheads. I don’t want a screaming match. I want words to matter.
Also if you enjoy Douglas Adams, Terry Pratchett has a similar deep snark. Discworld’s a whole mess of books but you can kinda jump in anywhere. I recommend Guards! Guards! or Going Postal. He did Good Omens with baby Neal Gaiman, and they’d write chapters separately, then throw out every joke they’d bought thought of.
You’re right about moderation, but I think it’s actually not an easy feat for someone to have really well-tuned common sense when it comes to tone over text. I know a lot of people in real life who text like total dismissive assholes, and if I didn’t actually know them I’d think they were being dickwads because they speak in real life completely different to how they type online.
Since ebooks have taken over my casual text consumption, would you say Discworld is accessible enough to just go from the beginning? There’s a lot of books in there, but I wouldn’t mind having all that to cruise through over a long term.
Dismissive dickwad behavior is good, actually - if you’re dismissing Nazis. Or anyone else who deserves a blunt rejection. It is fine and valid to deny people civility, when their rhetoric is inherently abusive. Respect and patience have limits.
Swearing at people absofuckinglutely has its place in online discourse. If not for the assholes themselves - then for the people they’re trying to fool.
Anyway.
Discworld has a few parallel threads. Release order starts with The Colour Of Magic, which is fun and short, but not exactly top-notch material. See explanatory flowchart. Those first few novels have a real Season One vibe.
The traditional introduction seems to be whichever book catches your eye. Or whichever you happened to find first, if you’d heard good things about the series. That’s how I wound up reading Ringworld by Larry Niven, because cultivating your interests in the 90s was a much fuzzier experience.
A huge part of Reddit for me were my small communities. Lemmy just isn’t big enough for the small communities the same way. I miss my bumpers group that were women from all over the world who went through pregnancy, childbirth, and parenting around the same time with me. I miss my teacher groups. I miss my roller coaster groups. Lemmy has replaced the “popular” tab, but not the “home” tab. I also miss the long text posts. I liked relationship advice, aita, tifu, casual conversation. While smaller, it feels more impersonal here. When I left Reddit I deleted everything so I’m not having trouble giving it up, because there’s nothing to go back to. But I miss what I had.
relationship advice, aita, tifu, casual conversation
I kinda miss these too but my life is probably better for it. It was mostly just made up drama anyway.
Lemmy just isn’t big enough for the small communities the same way.
You’re right about that but it’s still frustrating. I mean it’s natural and expected that a lot of the people that set up accounts in June didn’t hang around, but if everyone that had taken a look during that time all showed up on the same day, there would be enough going on for more people to hang around… if that makes sense.
I added some small/niche subs to my RSS reader. If something gets posted I’ll take a look, but I’m not spending time browsing and getting sucked in anymore.
Yeah, I get the same thing as you. What I’ve done so far is I made a few communities here and am trying to fairly reliability populate them with content. Some of those communities are niche and I feel like I’m posting into the void sometimes, but occasionally I’ve gotten someone else actually posting some content in them. It does definitely take some commitment to bootstrap a new community, as people just won’t start posting on their own there until there’s a critical mass. So you just gotta take the hit, post into the void a while, slowly increase that subscribe count, until finally others start to join in.
It’s easiest with communities focused around memes or links, but I think it’ll take more effort with more niche hobby or technical communities, e.g., for programming languages or niche hobbies.
Yup, I still visit Reddit daily because of the small subreddits for games I’m playing, which are barely active on Lemmy.
I mostly stay away from everything else on Reddit, but then again I already usually did that even before the recent API changes and removal of third party apps.
You could say I can try to contribute more to those communities here on Lemmy, but even on Reddit I never posted much and would just comment on random stuff once in a while. So it’s hard to go from that to actively posting and commenting here on Lemmy…
I definitely understand, as I was on reddit for several years as a lurker, then I started to occasionally comment, and then occasionally post. It was really only in the past 2 years that I became a pretty big poster and commenter on reddit. I think I actually post and comment more here on lemmy than even on reddit, if for no other reason than to help produce content and engagement here. Becoming a prolific poster and commenter ain’t a quick or easy transition, but I think even just upvoting niche stuff helps regardless. Like some of the smaller communities I’ve made here and been posting largely into the void, I still notice when I get like 3 upvotes instead of none at all. Every tiny bit of engagement here helps encourage others to keep on doing the same.
Make the posts you want to see, that’s the key here. I’m posting and making topics in my own communities that I want to thrive. As well, lemmy is still in alpha. There is a lot to improve upon, and it’s moving forward pretty rapidly.
I got relay but I didn’t make an account. I just go to the specific sub that there aren’t enough people for here and lurk. I occasionally forget where I am and try to upvote something and it tells me to make an account for that, after which I just chuckle and continue reading. no more reddit account, my previous one I nuked to hell after it got hacked.
Yeah I have some niche interests that I still have to go back to reddit to find information on. Give it time though, remember reddit had years to grow and the migration to lemmy is relatively new.
No, I haven’t logged into my main Reddit account that I had subscribed to all the subs that I was interested in pretty much since after the API debacle. I have kept logging into a secondary account only to help other people make the move to Lemmy, Mastodon, and the Fediverse in general. That account is only subscribed to r/redditalternatives, r/fediverse, r/lemmy, and r/mastodon, and I make it a point to not look at anything else. While I miss the niche communities that I had enjoyed there, I figure that they will eventually build here too. I can wait and avoid supporting Reddit and getting sucked back into it. For the time being I can spend my time enjoying what is already here, which is quite a bit.
I’m technically on Kbin.
I mod a sub, so I will still check in and do a scroll down my page every other day or so, but I was actually banned for horse shit reasons when the implosion happened, and my ban was reversed after the exodus.
During that time I got my “content cravings” in check.
Kbin is mostly feeding me enough memes to be satiated.
The use for reddit’s general subreddits is completely gone for me, but I do still have some very topic specific (gaming) subs I still visit. I’m not sure if lemmy will ever reach that level of membership with specific topics.
That’s not to say it can’t, but I think it’ll be difficult and maybe even take some concerted effort that wasn’t necessary for reddit. I don’t think Digg has anything like that.
But I do think reddit probably can’t get more profitable if all it has is niche communities. Now if they could be content with whatever profit they get being a collection of niche communities, they’ll probably be fine. But if they have demands to increase profit, which I think they do, then inevitably start doing dumb shit that damages the small successful communities, that would probably be the death knell.
I have gotten back to Reddit eventually, mostly because it is hard to say no when my patched Sync for Reddit app still works lol.
Anyway I think my frontpage/best sort is fucked up because the algorithm just throws me stuff that isn’t too interesting to me, maybe because I am so little time there it doesn’t feed me with “the best of the best”.
On the other hand, my personal multireddits are still relevant to me and always find cool stuff, I usually go back to it when I get bored of Lemmy (yeah, I go from Sync for Lemmy to Sync for Reddit lol).
I’m annoyed by how often Google sends me to Reddit for my stupid D&D questions.
