• Margot Robbie
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    252 years ago

    Now here’s the exact problem with the so called “personalized” ads, that Google and Facebook serves what the advertisers think you want to see, instead of what you actually want to see.

    This is the fundamental conflict of interest which the obvious conclusion is that online banner/video advertisements doesn’t work, and has never worked, because ultimately, no matter how many times you shove ads in people’s faces via a thoughtless machine, you can’t “trick” people into liking something. What people want is thoughtful, sincere recommendations by real people, which is why we have seen the rise of sassy brand Twitter accounts being so successful for a time: because there is a real person behind it.

    (Of course, it’s really funny if you take blatant advertisment to its logical extreme, and even that seemed more effective.)

    Of course, Google and Facebook will never admit that they’ve been lying to everyone and themselves for more than a decade, because to do so is to admit that their entire business of Web 2.0 was built on an absurd and illogical premise of again, if you show people ads for things they never asked for a thousand times, then you can brainwash them into liking something.

    In other words, Google and Facebook’s entire advertisment business model, if you really think about it, is really no different than pick-up artist logic, and. They. Just. Won’t. Go. Away.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      Pretty much every industry works by tricking people into liking things.

      Like the razors with four+ blades on them, people buy them cause the commercials say “more blades is better”.

      People wouldn’t seek out extra blades if they weren’t tricked into liking it. They are objectively worse than single blade razors.

      • @[email protected]
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        Exactly. If it didn’t pay off these companies wouldn’t keep shoveling money to Facebook and Google to show their ads time and time again. Marketing is expensive. If it didn’t at least break even then nobody would be doing it anymore by now. Obviously it works, otherwise I wouldn’t ever know what the fuck a squarespace or a goddamn raid shadow legends is.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      The ads that I mind the least and the ones I find the most effective are sponsors for creators that I like. Short sponsor segments really don’t annoy me as much and I have actually tried a couple products that have advertised that way.

      That said, almost all of them sucked in the end but that’s another subject entirely.

    • @[email protected]
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      122 years ago

      Turns out though you can absolutely trick them into believing conspiracy theories with social media ads.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        They work but very risky to use. Much better to sell them off instead of using them yourself.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        I mean I don’t wanna just do cash advances on 100 stolen credit cards. That’ll get you caught so fast.

        Legit crypto exchanges won’t accept credit cards anymore, they want a bank account attached.

        You can use it to deliver stuff to like a nearby location you can like pick up, then sell I guess? But how often can you do that?

        Using in stores assuming you have a physical card is dangerous because if it’s reported stolen by the time you use it, they’ll let the cops know and turn over the camera stuff.

        Compare to, send the CC info to a random person, get $200 in crypto, and let them do one of the above and take all the risk. If you have 1000 stolen cards that is just so much safer and faster.

      • @[email protected]
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        142 years ago

        Because it’s one more degree of abstraction from the fraud and thus slightly safer. People absolutely sell working CC numbers online.

  • @[email protected]
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    72 years ago

    So basically the silk road moved to Instagram & Telegram… pretty ballsy, I wonder how much of it is honey potting?

    That’s a pretty good deal for a hot Nina with all the fixings… also I see a lot of fentanyl pills in those listings.

    • @[email protected]
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      162 years ago

      Didn’t those fake oil carts that were getting people sick come from Instagram? The ones with vitamin D oil as filler

      There are still a bunch of darknet markets though, it’s two different demographics buying at each

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        Yeah, there will always be dark markets. But it’s nothing like, nor do I think it ever will be like it was in its hay day. I don’t check regularly, but last I looked these markets have nothing close to the user base of even the days of agora/dream/Wallstreet. You could buy quantities of stuff at user level for real cheap. As they started cracking down, it all started to turn into bulk because no one wanted to deal with transaction frequency risk, I suspect it’s the same today.

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          I was on the original Silk Road back in the day, those were the golden years. I don’t fuck with drugs anymore because even the non-hard stuff is completely tainted with fetanyl these days.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      I may or may not have acquired exactly the acid in those pics.

      I definitely did not.

      Or did I?

      It looks identical actually and I’m willing to bet it came from the same place.

      If I actually had it that is.

  • @[email protected]
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    312 years ago

    This shit’s going on in centralized big-name websites, while Lemmy instances fret about discussing piracy and ban people for being impolite to bigots.

    I fucking hate the modern web.

      • @[email protected]
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        222 years ago

        No I definitely hate many disparate elements of the modern web. Browsers are controlled by an advertising giant that can’t even operate a decent search engine anymore. Legislators are still trying to demonize pornography, of any kind, as if two adults fucking in private is child exploitation… somehow. Every website that centralized disparate forums / galleries / chatrooms simultaneously went pants-on-head crazy in a panicked frenzy to make N+1 dollars.

        I also hate people who demand “be polite!” without viciously cracking down on actual trolls saying stupid shit to bait blunt correction. And those trolls, obviously. It doesn’t have to be exclusive. There’s plenty to go around.

        • stevedidWHAT
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          42 years ago

          I felt the same way but with the Reddit thing I started switching up some of my sites.

          Have you used any of the SearX instances? Works just as well as google for the most part

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            I have now, and I’m underwhelmed. As a test case I used a repeated failure point for Google and DDG: ‘“Apple I” keyboard’. As in, keyboards for the Apple I, which came before the Apple II. (I have some very stupid hobbies.) Major search engines overwhelmingly return Apple iWhatever keyboards, or just Apple keyboards in general, with occasional vintage or retro hardware tossed in. The handful of SearX instances I tried returned nothing.

  • Remmock
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    462 years ago

    ITT: People who are so quick to suggest ad blockers they miss the point of the conversation.

    • Nightwatch Admin
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      32 years ago

      Well, Instagram did just that for my little book publishing company. I signed up for a business account in the hopes of selling some books, putting up some ads, and posting a few updates, only to get a fucking PERMABAN during fucking SIGNUP.

      So you are right and it really is super easy.

  • @[email protected]
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    222 years ago

    Drugs or Chinese scam products. Had a friend tell me he ordered something that never showed up, turned out they sent these super cheap toothbrushes in the mail and then tried to use that tracking info as proof he received what he bought. They just allow anyone who will pay to advertise illegal shit, scams, whatever it’s the wild West.

    • EnderWi99in
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      Yeah I just get fed with bullshit on ADHD and Autism nonstop.

  • @[email protected]
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    42 years ago

    You sound like you love to see ads, otherwise why the fuck are you not blocking them using extensions?

    • @[email protected]OP
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      182 years ago

      I don’t use Instagram altogether, this isn’t about me. The main audience of Instagram (and other Meta platforms) are teens, whom you should not expose to such advertisements. Some are not tech literate and are capable of blocking Meta’s ads on a DNS level or with some other trickery. Look at the broader audience, this isn’t a “Me” post.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        No relation to Instagram, this is about the internet as a whole, no one ever should be online without at least 5 adblocking extensions.

        • @[email protected]
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          92 years ago

          Yes, ignore the root problem and instead cover it with a bandaid solution.

          If someone had a cut on their leg that had turned black and smelled like rancid meat, would you just tell them that no one should go out in public without pants and deodorant?

    • @[email protected]
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      122 years ago

      You sound like you didn’t read the article. This not about seeing ads or not, it’s about large corporations allowing and making profits off advertising criminal activities.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        allowing and making profits off advertising criminal activities.

        You mean the same ones that could be easily blocked by extensions so none of us would be talking about it right now and giving them more clicks? you clearly missed the point.

        • @[email protected]
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          102 years ago

          I didn’t miss the point, the point is not about seeing ads or not. Expand your thought process a bit.

  • Sibbo
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    12 years ago

    We thought they would use crime prediction for putting us to jail, but instead they just advertise

      • Franzia
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        102 years ago

        U saying there’s an untapped market? 😏

        • @[email protected]
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          92 years ago

          If only there was a Pixelfed instance that hosted OnlyFans, Cosplayers, and random exhibitionists. Everyone else could just subscribe to it.

  • @[email protected]
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    Preamble to the shitty internet bills that will get passed on a holiday weekend at 2am?