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Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined
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Because of course they would sabotage their own product because of international standards that won’t let them nickel and dime their customers.
If you need fast speeds, buy the pro bro /s
Lol they will probably have a special Apple cable that allows for faster speeds only for their specific devices
They will not, at least not in the EU.
Apple certified usb c
That’s essentially exactly what the headline is already stating…
Can’t wait to find out it is just a software or hardware throttle and with a simple fix get full speed. The small repair shops still going to be busy.
TFW a wifi transfer literally loads files from your phone faster than a fucking cable.
I dont know anyone who transfers anything besides power to the iphone via cable. What are you guys doing? Syncing it with itunes?
This was my thought exactly. I would sooner transfer over Wi-Fi than cable. This is a charging port to me.
It would actually be a lot safer if the charging port was only able to supply power. People plug their shit into random cables all the time and it’s been a vector for compromise.
That’s a good point though the port is also needed to pair an iPhone or iPad to a Mac/PC (the famous ‘Trust This Device’ screen can only be triggered if a device tries to access the phones data via USB) which is required to do any backups / music or picture syncs in the first place. ,nd it’s also necessary if youre a developer as - even at USB2.0 speeds that people complain about here - it is still faster to test and debug applications than via wireless.
Well if you don’t want to subscribe to iCloud, how can you do it except with iTunes?
To be honest I’d really want to be able to create an image of my iPhone and back it up on my kdrive (a cloud storage service).
Apple car play would be a bitch if I don’t have a port since it doesn’t have wireless carplay. And my car is a 2023
Do you suffer because of usb 2.0 speeds?
They just said that a wired port is needed which apparently needs to be said because there are so many that thinks that portless is a good idea.
USB 3.0 is way faster than WiFi and some phones even gave 3.1
… iPhone has USB 2.0
Yes, I know that,
The comment above implied that faster USB support isn’t needed because WiFi is faster anyways (obviously wrong).
I don’t think they intended to imply that faster USB support _isn’t needed _, but rather they are making a mockery of how absolutely absurd this reality is.
That is possible.
That’s his point.
That’s the point. Expect the iPhone 17 to be portless to the consumer.
There has to be a USB-C. Some people will always want wires to transfer data, even if it’s through their “wireless charger”, which is proprietary.
Some people will always want wires to transfer data,
But that group of people is growing smaller and smaller with each year. I haven’t used a phone cable to transfer files once in the last 8 years. Phones just sync to cloud.
I mean yeah I barely use cables to transfer data, but there are times I need to plug it in to back up files. The Pixel 7 Pro is also a bar of soap and slides off of my wireless charger, so it’s more reliable for me to use a USB-C cable. I also like having the phone next to me in bed, and so I use a USB-C cable.
It just seems odd to remove something that is so reliable, even if only to have as a backup method. It would only make sense to remove it if wireless chargers are the dominant form of charging devices, especially in a portable manner.
Having a port also enables things like game controllers and wired headphones, if the user chooses to do something like that.
About the sliding phone, Apple has proposed a magnetic solution to that.
Haven’t tried it, but seems to solve that specific issue.
In this case I just have a case on my phone which stops it from sliding. But generally I do like having phones without cases on them.
I suspect cables are used more on Android because its filesystem is open so you can basically use an Android as a flash drive, which is very convenient at times.
Also since Androids in general have a way faster wired connection, it’s more likely to be used for that.
Unlike iOS, Android also doesn’t have a way to easily transfer files over WiFi by default.
Whereas if you’re embedded in the Apple ecosystem, you can airdrop something from your iPhone to your Mac straight out of the box (after getting set up).
You can install the share app on Windows for the same experience.
I only use it for small files or photos. I use a cable for bigger files like movies or whatever, since it’s much faster.
Using a cable with Android is also very easy since you don’t need any apps or anything. You just have to click a notification and set the USB mode to “file transfer” from “charge only”, after that it just works on pretty much every device. Fast USB ports are also useful because you can connect accessories to your phone like gigabit ethernet, and especially flash drives.
I suspect iPhone users very rarely if ever, transfer big files since the iOS file system is so locked down. The only big thing I can imagine that they would need to transfer is filmed 4k video.
Same. I think the last time I used a cable to transfer data onto my phone was iTunes syncing my iPhone 5s music. Once I moved to Spotify I never needed to sync again.
It’s not the use case of everyone, but I’d bet the majority of iPhone users haven’t used a data transfer in years
Yeah same, if I need a transfer I use gdrive
I don’t, for privacy reasons. I use either cable or drop.lol
Consumer demands appear to just kinda bounce off of Apple, it’s remarkable really.
And some people will always want a headphone jack… oh wait…
The difference with wireless listening vs. charging is that the former doesn’t need close to 2x the power of the cable-bound method and doesn’t destroy the phone’s battery in the process, unlike the latter
Wireless listening absolutely needs more than 2x the power of wired listening. It also needs charging an entire other device. You’re right that it doesn’t affect the phone battery, though I don’t think wireless charging “destroys” it.
It warms it up, and you’re not going to get the absolute maximum battery life out of it if you’re wireless, but the impact usually isn’t that big, unless you’re really cooking it. Using the standard fast charger that comes with your phone is probably going to put about as much, if not more wear than a. 10W wireless charger.
You’re not meant to wirelessly charge it by sticking it in the microwave.
Wireless listening absolutely needs more than 2x the power of wired listening. It also needs charging an entire other device
It might be more than that. A wired headset is incredibly simple, unless you’re running a ridiculous amplifier through it. It’s just two speakers, maybe a microphone and button if it’s a mobile headset.
By comparison, wireless listening would usually need the audio encoder/decoder chips, the Bluetooth receiver/transmitter, the processors for the pairing/controls/noise cancellation, and the speakers on top of that. That’s not a small amount of componentry.
I’ve tried using wireless charging in a friend’s car on my iPhone SE a few weeks back.
Result: notification that charging had (!) to be stopped at around 50% due to overheating and was poised to continue once the iPhone had cooled down sufficiently. It never continued as that was all I needed to know about the current state of wireless charging with light usage on the side.
Good point on the wireless listening and ear pieces needing a battery as well, though. I guess with those it comes down to convenience for most buyers.
I can’t imagine Europe wouldn’t lose their shit if Apple removed it entirely. And if Android manufacturers did that consumers would also promptly lose their shit.
Beyond the consumer, having a physical port is beneficial to Apple. Businesses use attached devices (e.g. barcode scanners, DSLR camera attachments, charging stations) all the time. It’s more common on Android phones, but I do see iPhones using these sorts of things. My local movie theater uses iPhones to scan tickets with an attached Lightning scanner, for example.
I don’t disagree that wireless charging is more convenient, but from the standpoint of being in emergency situations where a cable is needed to charge your phone, it wouldn’t be easily possible if the port is removed. People might carry around charging bricks, and while wireless charging bricks do exist they’re not commonplace and they’re certainly slower than charging by wire. I can tell you nobody will want to carry around a portable wireless charger, although MagSafe is almost already just that.
Playing devil’s advocate, it’s possible Apple does want things like portable wireless chargers to proliferate, like the one you can buy that slap onto the back of your phone. It means you’re buying more of their shit, which is something they seem to love so much. It would mean you’re buying MagSafe chargers or whatever proprietary crap they manufacture. I still do see it becoming an issue in emergency situations though, e.g. teens (a large user base of iPhones) use their phones a lot and borrow chargers from each other all the time.
Impossible? No. Unlikely? Yes, for now.
They might adopt something like pogo pins for physical connections, similar to the ipads
Do you have an example of this?
Well, as I said, the smart connector on the ipad. It is used to connect the keyboard if I’m not mistaken.
Merely a rumor. Apple is known to put multiple false rumors into their supplier chain to find leakers.
I’m going to wait for the upcoming formal announcement and specs.
Apple y u gotta be like dis
Nothing new at all. They’ve literally never not been cunts.
True but most of us would do the same if we worked at apple and asked for your opinion.
so that the losers they are selling to can feel superiour
We’re still doing this, huh? Smartphone fanboying? Pretending like one side is clearly superior? This shit is so tired.
I’m pretty much convinced the other side would do the same if it could.
MY TEAM >>>> YOUR TEAM
Because their cultists still buy their shit. They will keep doing this until people stop buying, and that won’t happen due to the cultural brainwashing that they do.
Plenty of downvotes but no one has the balls to disagree with you explicitly. They know it’s true.
Don’t buy products from Apple or Microsoft. It’s not impossible, it’s not even difficult
Little bit of a strange article.
First, it’s about data transfer speeds. I don’t think… anyone else in my extended family, and certainly none of the iPhone users, use a cable to transfer data frequently.
But more importantly - the subtitle of the article says that only the pro models offer faster charging speeds. Despite the article being exclusively about data transfer speeds.
I haven’t used a cable to sync my iPhone for a long time. The speed does not matter to me unless they give us free tethering via cable. Ever since I got a box of wireless chargers to scatter around the house I don’t think I have used a cable.
Why anyone would buy into this crap is beyond me.
That Majin Buu always comes through. Except that one day… Damn you Kakarot!
I expect the pro max to have thunderbolt and normal iPhone to have this slow USB.
You should do less suspecting and more reading.
You mean this part where the article doesn’t say if the pros are going to have USB 3 or thunderbolt, and therefore I suspected it was going to be thunderbolt?
If you were going to bring the snark, at least bring the quote to help others too
Although the new info doesn’t state what kind of speeds the Pro phones will offer, it’s anticipated they will be in the neighborhood of USB 3.2, which tops out at 20Gb/s. At the same time, Apple currently uses a Thunderbolt 3 port on its iPad Pro, which can hit 40Gb/s. Even if Apple went with USB 3.0 for the base model (4.8Gb/s), it could still quadruple that by offering USB 3.2 on the Pro phones. But it sounds like the company isn’t interested in providing fast transfer rates on its standard models.
The latest report, which is both surprising and unsurprising at the same time, comes from a reliable leaker named Majin Bu, who Macrumors says has previously provided details on Apple’s upcoming cables.
Maybe I should start my own news company. You just string some words together about something and it doesn’t really have to make any sense or communicate any information. You say this happened, but at the same time maybe it didn’t happen, mention some people feel one way and other people feel a different way, throw in some meaningless speculation, someone else who is jumping to conclusions, maybe throw a pun in there somewhere, at least one person is skeptical about the thing, someone is concerned about how things will be different, and start selling space for advertisements.
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I don’t think your criticism here is fair. I see what the article is conveying in this sentence: this is a decision that makes no sense (it probably costs more to artificially limit speeds in this way) but it is also not unexpected that Apple would make this kind of decision. I think it’s a well written turn of phrase.
I think you’re correct. I don’t think the author articulated that very clearly, but my reaction was an overreaction.
Yeah I don’t get it, that’s not an uncommon phrase. I use variations of it all the time.
This is more about Apple’s record on doing things to embellish their latest tech. They’re going to do the whole “this is a feature exclusive to our Pro models” and a year or two later they’re going to “add” it to others and call it an innovation breakthrough.
It’s surprising a tech company like them would bother to do this, given that USB-C is already capable of those speeds, but it’s also unsurprising cause it’s Apple.
Just give those instructions and a topic to an AI. Money in the bank.
“I would be surprise if any car manufacturer delivers their cars without any brakes, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a dishonest car manufacturer would do so in order to sell more cars”
Apple fanboys drooling over the company as it continues to shit on them.
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I doubt your typical apple user will use the usb port for anything other than charging.
If they are going to improve transfer speeds it’s not going to happen in the same iteration they’re being made to switch to usb c for two reasons:
- They want to incetivise users to upgrade to a newer model 16
- They will want to take credit for faster speeds. Otherwise people will think usb c is just faster than lighting they were stuck with for years.
The reason is that like with the iPhone 14, in the non-Pro models they put the SoC from the previous year’s Pro model, and that one was only designed for Lightning so only USB 2.0. So the non-Pro will get USB 3 once the USB 3-supporting SoC trickles down from the Pro.
Number 2 is probably a bigger deal than people realize. They want to save face.
Apple is very good at price discrimination. I hey know if they can build a slightly cheaper phone by reusing the SoC from the older lightning version, and 99% of iPhone users won’t care (for whatever reason) they then know that the 1% that does care will spend a little bit more on the Pro model. And they do that with few different features, which ends up with the Pro models selling a significant number of units.
I can’t imagine the horror show that it must be to live every day in a brain that thinks of nothing but how to scheme and scam people all day.
It’s literally exactly as fast as lightning is for the current generation phones… so you lose nothing / gain nothing.
But I guess it’s apple so we gotta riot while it’s perfeCtly fine for android phones to ship that way depending on which vendor you pick.
You are on lemmy, not on Reddit. We have criteria here
That’s the difference, Android users have a choice in what phone they buy. Apple users get the new iPhone or the old iPhone, so when bad decisions are made it sucks worse.
This was Apple’s chance to up the bandwidth on their phone ports, it would cost them pennies (maybe less than pennies) and would give them a talking point. 6 years ago the 2017 Pixel 2 had USB 3.1 support. It’s 2023 now.
Apple is either trying to squeeze people as much as possible before it’s game over for their proprietary cables, or are afraid that people can’t identify which cables support which speeds. Maybe a bit of both?
Not acceptable for phones that are more expensive, to have speeds from a USB spec designed in the year 2000. Pixel 7 currently implements USB 3.2 standards, and with USB 4.0 (based on Thunderbolt, designed by Apple and Intel) on the way, I’m sure Android phones will be packing that as soon as they can.
Lightning is already painfully slow for transferring photos and doing backups. Assuming you get max speed the entire time, backing up a full 64GB iphone will take 16 minutes. On USB 3.1 it’d take 4 minutes.
android phones to ship that way depending on which vendor you pick
Almost like Android has no business practices to criticize because it’s not a company. This thread is about criticizing Apple, not iOS.
