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Id never order a tuna fish sandwich but I’d make them. I’m from pnw USA. When I say tuna sandwich I feel like it would be different than something out of a can. Tuna salad probably makes more sense but ive never had any confusion when saying tuna fish. Doing some googling, “tuna” is also Spanish for “prickly pear”. So tuna could be used to describe a cactus fruit. In Cali there is a restaurant called “La tuna canyon”. Not cause of the fish.
Yeah, I did a bit of poking around, check this out. Till the tuna canneries started showing up in the early 1900s in California, “tuna” was just as likely to prefix “cactus” as “fish”.
Mystery solved I think
Tuna fish = The animal
Tuna = The meat
It’s like with cows and beef
Nah. cow and beef came about due to the Norman conquest of England.
The lords spoke French and so were served bœuf (which became beef overtime), while the peasants spoke English and tended cows in the field.
I drink the milk of the beef fish.
Sounds fine.
You can’t tuna fish otherwise you risk it becoming a bass.
Tuna-mayo.
It’s redundant. Tuna fish, wrist watch, eye glasses…
ATM machine
Pocket watch, sun glasses, drinking glasses
drinking glasses
For one glorious moment there I thought you were some sort of sophisticated individual who has special eye glasses only for drinking.
Well, now I am!
I suppose there are always beer goggles, but not quite the same.
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Also piss kidneys
I ask for a Tuna salad sandwich
Are there Tunas that aren’t fish? We just say Tuna here in California unless we ask for yellow fin tuna or blue fin tuna
Yeah, prickly pears are tuna fruit, from the tuna cactus
From some reason I feel like I’m playing The Outer Worlds while reading this discussion.
For some reason if I think of a tuna fish sandwich I imagine canned tuna, but if I think tuna sandwich I imagine whole seared tuna.
Ditto
For the vote it would have to be “tuna”. But could you try and order less tuna, or none at all? Not only for the risks to your health, but it’s also really bad for the tuna. And there is no sustainable way to eat fish - not even tuna. Thanks.
Curious, are you against eating animals at all, or is there something specific to fish I’m unaware of?
Tried to phrase that in the most polite way, but I can’t get the phrasing to not sound like I’m being a snarky dick. I’m genuinely asking. I’m not vegan, but I do try to limit myself as much as I can given the diets of the other people I cook for. Also not a fan of fish in general, but I’ll cook and eat it when someone in the house goes fishing at the local lake or river. We never buy fish.
Not who you asked but I agree with OP. In my case because the way the fishing industry operates is adding to the problem. They destroy ecosystems, pollute the oceans, kill fish for their “magical” powers. Also there’s been many studies showing that you don’t really know what type of fish you’re actually eating
Most of those issues apply to any meat, and honestly even to vegetables.
Bluefin tuna are endangered. Cows and carrots aren’t.
Okay, so it is a problem specific to fish. Thank you for replying!
Thanks for fielding the question Wookie. And May I say Dharma that was the nicest question I ever got (ex Reddit so maybe Lemmy people are all lively). Honestly, if you (and everyone) cuts back on the red meat that’s good for you and great for the environment. Fish is a global problem - we have overfished the world. There is a good film about it, a few years old now “Sea-sporacy” if you have time. You are already in the top percentage because you are thoughtful about what you are consuming. Cool.
Tuna is one of the healthier fishes. It has higher mercury levels, but unless you’re eating it every day you’re fine.
No, I say “tuna salad” and then get disappointed when it’s just chunked tuna with no vegetables or dressing.
I ask for Tuna and am disappointed when I get Tuna Salad, which is tuna, mayo (I assume) and onion. Like… did I ask for that extra shit? No!
The best tuna salads have celery not onion, and some have sweet pickles in them too.
I hate celery, but don’t add onion either.
Mayo, mustard, & relish (preferably sweet, but dill works if that’s what’s on hand). Then boiled egg or tuna, depending on which kind of salad you want.
Two sides of the same coin. Just give us what we ask for or tell us you can’t do it, people!
Tuna salad is objectively better though. Tuna (the fish) tastes good. It has lots of flavour but it is inherently dry, 100% solved by tuna salad.
Today I learned that there are people out that who do not share that position. Never met one before. Hello, dryfish eater.
ahhhhh Tuna in springwater, maybe. Tuna in oil, though… nice and moist!
I’m in camp “Midwestern American who says tuna fish”. . .but I’m also right there with the person that said they don’t order them and tuna fish sandwiches are something made at home.
For the record, I don’t know why the fish part is specified. It just always was. It’s not like my family called it a “can of tuna fish” growing up or anything. It’s just the sandwiches. Put that tuna between two slices of bread and suddenly the word “fish” gets thrown in there. Maybe it just sounds more fun if you add more syllables? Either that or somebody in the region had to explain that tuna was a kind of fish years and years ago and it just stuck.
neither. I prefer tuna either raw or jarred in oil
Tuna. I’m in the midwest. I’ve lived on the west coast. I just assumed “tuna fish” was an east coast thing.
All you crazy foreigners just don’t realize. 'Merica has no regulations, sense, or laws. We call it “Tuna Fish” because just “Tuna” is sawdust and cat liter.
I order a tuna salad sandwich or a tuna sandwich, but I grew up hearing tuna fish… specifically in reference to the stuff that came in a can.
Both were equally common years ago but over time, “tuna” sans fish has won out… likely because fresh, non canned tuna is very common.
I read an article a while ago that theorized the reason for Americans calling it “tuna fish” was that it rose to prominence as a canned staple good in the 1940s, and many Americans who didn’t live on the coasts had never heard of tuna before. Its light meat, when canned and cooked, was very mild and chicken-y compared with the heavily salted, oily canned fish folks were familiar with, hence both “chicken of the sea” and the precaution of labeling the can with not only tuna, but “fish”.
I think an alternate explanation is probably more likely… the 1919 Oxford English Dictionary describes “Tuna” as an alternative spelling of “tunny”, the old name for the fish (still used in a culinary sense in Britain) … not coincidentally:
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Californians would also have been familiar with the other tuna… tuna fruit, the prickly pear.
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Possessed of both a fruit and a fish of the same name, distinguishing one from the other when canning fish seems reasonable
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The largest canneries of tuna (e.g., the one that ultimately became Chicken of the Sea) were all based in California.
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