Sorry for the headline. I don’t know why they don’t just say it’s Vivek Ramaswamy.
To that end, I will accept Russian control of the occupied territories and pledge to block Ukraine’s candidacy for NATO in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China. I will end sanctions and bring Russia back into the world market. In this way, I will elevate Russia as a strategic check on China’s designs in East Asia.
why is it this dinguses decision
Is this guy campaigning for American votes, or a Russian paycheck?
Yes. And failing that, yes.
He wants to be VP
Neither, I think his job is to absorb the negative attention so T looks less unhinged or maybe separate off the crazier magas.
Isn’t it possible that Vivek is just nuts?
Would you put someone “just nuts” in front of a tv camera? But really, I’ve never known the gop to just roll with whomever, their messaging is tightly controlled. If he is up there it’s for a reason.
Would you put someone “just nuts” in front of a tv camera?
Have you seen today’s GOP? Trump, Marj Green, Lauren Boebert, Jim Jordan… the crazy is a feature, not a bug, In Republican politics.
I’ve never known the gop to just roll with whomever, their messaging is tightly controlled.
All the tightly message-controlled Republican candidates in 2016 got thumped by Trump. The Republican party doesn’t even have a platform. They’re literally just rolling with some guy right now.
If he is up there it’s for a reason.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity… or craziness.
Yeah, occam’s says it’s a political ploy. We are literally discussing candidates and how they present themselves. To legitimately bring in mental health seems a stretch.
Would you put someone “just nuts” in front of a tv camera?
That’s generally what happens because it draws in ratings.
We’ve put Trump, and previously 2nd term Reagan in front. So…yes?
“in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China.”
“…You’re questioning if is Russia is good on its commitments? Who had every heard of Russia not following through with its promises? What? Budapest memo-what?” -Ramaswamy probably
Luckily it’s not his to give.
Never thought I’d see somebody worse than trump so quickly.
he also wants to remove federal regulatory and law enforcement agencies. Including, the IRS. Whose job it is… to you know… pay the government’s bills…
It’s like “conservatives” are actually compelled to make the worst, most unethical choice, every time…
those aren’t conservatives. Biden is a conservative. GOP are regressives.
No: conservatism is tribalism. It’s always been “well someone’s gotta be king.” That is the origin of the term, right back to the invention of the modern republic. It’s just hierarchy plus excuses.
Conservatism is about conserving the traditional practices and values. If the practice is tribalism, then it may be what is conserved, but it can be something else.
This has never been true. This is plain nonsense.
Like declaring Mitch McConnell and Wolfe Tone must share values because they’re both “Republicans.” Words mean what they are used to mean. What conservatism means, in modern English, is monarchists denied a monarchy.
You can deny it if you want, but that’s what you’ll find in dictionaries and encyclopedias, which is what most people consider as the standard definition of a word.
Dictionaries reflect use.
What people mean is always enforcing hierarchy.
That is the only consistent thread, within and between conservative movements worldwide. They want one guy in charge of everything and half the population fighting for scraps. On some level they do not believe society can function any other way.
The people who attempted to overthrow American democracy aren’t preserving a damn thing.
“Conservative” in USian means “fascist”.
There’s a lot worse than Trump. Trump is dumb AF and is easily persuaded. I’m doubting that Trump ever actually came up with an idea of his own. He’s a puppet through and through.
he came up with the idea of having a button that summons diet coke,
He also came up with the name “Space Force” and they let him pick a new color scheme for Air Force One.
As absolutely cheesy as it is, I like Space Force and its Starfleet knockoff logo.
Are we going to have to do this every 4 years? Just roll the dice and risk some wholly unqualified asshole, somehow even worse that the former guy, becoming president so he or she can just shit on the people and the planet for the next 4 fucking years?
I am so tired of this bullshit.
For the forseeable future? yes.
Personally. I plan to go start a lunar colony, then mars, then jupiter. Build up a space civilization of enlightened scientists who… will tolerate my leadership because “well at least it’s not as bad as on earth.”
Enough scientists are feral enough to just throw someone out an airlock. That shit would rapidly devolve into some demented form of anarcho-syndacalism.
That shit would rapidly devolve into some demented form of anarcho-syndacalism.
you assume that I’m not some tin pot dictator. I’m far from the last person you want to see in power… but I’m also far from the first. Although… that could make for a good story…
Not forever now and probably 2028. The people they are appealing to are dying and are rapidly being replaced by the youth. By 2032 they won’t be enough to dominate an entire party. They will return to the fringe.
Until progressives move en masse to rural areas, this country is fucked. Gerrymandering is largely possible because you only need to go two feet outside of any urban area to be in a blood red sea of prideful ignorance and xenophobia.
We’re at a point where they are so close to codifying their reign into our country’s laws that it will no longer matter if they have a majority or not.
They’ve already done so. Political gerrymandering, legislative subversion of direct democracy, political ejections from state legislatures, etc. The thing that kills me is that the Dems have not come out loudly and uniformly in favor of shit that would make a difference, like rank-choice voting, non-partisan redistricting, etc. Fuckers all around.
Until we become the old assholes for not engaging enough into the ecological transition.
It seems that some candidates believe that to win against Trump you have to be dumber than him.
They are doing it on purpose. He’s 38 years old, no one is letting him near the presidency. But these over the top statements are intended to make some other candidate look like not the craziest guy in the room.
More likely he’s doing this on purpose to gain notoriety and wealth through media presence
Also he’s trying to evade lawsuits
It could be both
Well yeah, but maybe both? They probably offered him a talking head show already.
*edit aaaaand the guy above says he has his tv show
Widening the Overton Window. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
Plus he’s brown. With a foreign sounding name.
The chances of Trumpy Republicans abandoning Dear Leader and voting en mass for an Indian looking guy are vanishingly small.
Considering one of his opponents tried to destroy the happiest place on earth, signed into law a law that allows people to kidnap kids, and worked as a torturer at gitmo, that is saying something
“They’d never let this guy take power!”
Where the fuck have you been.
Eh I figure it’s just for attention. Rile up the base to get them out to vote.
Anger is a pretty strong motivator if social media hasn’t shown you that already.
You know that’s actually not the craziest hypothesis
Shifting the Overton Window
I was watching a review of the GOP debates by some US political junkies just last week and one of the hosts said that Vivek knows he doesn’t have a chance but is using this presidential run to get exposure for his planned foray into right wing talk show host. Something like Tucker or Alex Jones.
Great bang for your buck with free news media advertising by pretending to run for president and saying crazy stuff.
After hearing he wanted to start his own right wing talk show his character and mannerisms made so much more sense.
Apologies for the facebook link (They start talking about him around the 14 min mark and the comment on his talk show plans is at 20 mins)
https://www.facebook.com/abcplanetamerica/videos/3482537835297757Dude is worth like a billion dollars. Why would he want to be talk show host?
Besides that the fact that running for pres, can theoretically be used as a springboard into conservative media, what was their argument?
Why would Elon Musk want to own a social media company?
Billionaires are weirdos.
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What reason other than ego is needed by the wealthy? They don’t need to consider pros/cons like the rest of us do. You see the kind of following right wing talk show types build? I could very much see someone wanting that just because they can do it.
I was watching a review of the GOP debates by some US political junkies just last week and one of the hosts said that Vivek knows he doesn’t have a chance but is using this presidential run to get exposure for his planned foray into right wing talk show host. Something like Tucker or Alex Jones.
or he wants to be VP.
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Chances are he doesn’t even believe the nonsense coming out of his own mouth, but society rewards these people with riches beyond their wildest imagination so they keep doing it.
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That was the common thought about Trump in 2016…
What would have happened if he lost? Probably exactly that.
Yeah, that was the feeling, that he was gearing up to start his own OANN style network.
Maybe that guy is not the craziest person in the room.
There’s a lot of competition. I mean he’s meek, so it isn’t always clear, but Mike Pence is fucking nuts.
Its basically the exact same method movie theatres use to sell overpriced popcorn…
Not sure what that says about people but probably nothing good.Damn, it’s working.
Just look at all his accomplishments like … … … … and … … … … and don’t forget … … … …
Also, we should remember that time he…
100% Ukraine is going to give up lands, they can not fight off Russia, and they have lost a ton of equipment and many of their soldiers are dead. Even the west who is now sick of giving Ukraine aid, are not pleased with how Ukraine is unable to make any dent in the war, furthermore, Ukraine has been told by the West to stop attacks inside Russia or risk losing aid, in preparation to forcing Ukraine to accept defeat, it’s coming, bank on it.
The biggest thing holding back Ukraine is the ack of air superiority. If they can gain that, they will gain ground fast
Never going to happen, the west purposely is delaying F-16 hand over, which won’t come before end of 2024.
False. The pilots are in training, and the transfer has been completely approved. There is no more delaying.
Hello Putin shill
you have the brain capacity of a child.
Ooohh, burn!
Got any point to make for yourself instead of parroting Putin points?
I don’t get why he thinks Russia would end a military alliance after being given everything they want without having to end that alliance. And what makes him think other nations won’t still back Ukraine? We would just be putting ourselves on the wrong side of history and on the wrong side of the war.
And what makes him think other nations won’t still back Ukraine?
That’s the weirdest thing about this. His whole plan assumes Ukraine will just say “Ok Vivek, we’ll just stop fighting because you want to be friends with Putin!”
Only thing he’d accomplish is making the war drag on for years longer. This guy is so gullible he believes the Russian propaganda that tells him that Ukraine is a US puppet.
Its weird that that is not 0% chance.
History is for nerds. Paying attention to how appeasement turned out for the world back in the mid-20th century won’t get you airtime.
Russia literally invaded Ukraine with the full force of their army and this dude is willing to give up Ukrainian territory to the Russians. Meanwhile I’m America immigrants come here looking for jobs and the Republicans call that an invasion. I don’t think they know what an “invasion” is.
Oh I’m sure China would be absolutely thrilled if the US was soft on Russia.
Maybe he can start by eliminating the country highest political position.
Lobbyists?
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I see Vivek Ramaswamy is gunning to be the Neville Chamberlain of the 21st century. Giving Putin what he wants is like trying to appease Hitler. Putin’s expressed ideology is for Russia to conquerer Europe. He is not going to stop with the Donbas region or Ukraine. The best thing for everyone, including the Russian people, is for Russia as we know it to collapse into smaller countries.
This video by Kraut does a good job explaining Putin’s ideology.
Not to mention by supporting Ukraine, the US is sending a clear message to China that they will be met with force if they try invade Taiwan. It doesn’t benefit anyone other than Russia and China to work with them and give them what they want. Dictatorships are always going to be incentivized to backstab democracies. Democracies are going to champion human rights, where as other dictatorships will look the other way. So no matter how hard you try to separate Russia and China they are always going to be incentivized to work with each other.
And the little cooperation between China and Russia is not worth backstabbing Ukraine over.
Putin is not Hitler, for many reasons, but chief among them is his incompetency. Hitler didn’t get bogged down in czechoslovakia for a year. Putin has almost no chance of conquering the whole of Ukraine, much less the entirety of Europe.
Yeah no Putin rushed that one and has been interfering in his generals’ decisions from day one. There’s tons of incompetence in the Russian army but Bakhmut levels of strategic self-owns, no, we can safely assume that that kind of stuff was a political decision.
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If he thinks that Russia will break their military cooperation with China, he is even more stupider that Trump and Biden combined…
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If you want about 20 more, go watch the debate. Every time he spoke was a reason not to vote for him.
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If I remember correctly from the debate, Haley was the only one that seemed to have a nuanced view of the issue.
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IMO, roe should have been kept in place until a workable nuanced solution could have been found, and with the way Washington works, we’d all be long dead by the time that happened.
If Congress is too scared to make laws, that they leave it up for the courts, then the default should be to let the people choose for themselves. If someone thinks abortion is wrong, no one is forcing them to have one. And if a there are complications that require one, they can still be done safely.
If people are going to make abortion and black and white issue, the pro-choice is the only logical solution as it gives everyone what they want for themselves and their families.
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I’m not surprised Congress didn’t do anything. It’s too sensitive an issue and they are all worried about getting re-elected. Personally, I think if they aren’t willing to have these hard talks to figure this stuff out they should all be removed from office for failure to fulfill their duty.
This is why the judges get lifetime appointments. They don’t want elections or anything to interfere with their ability to interpret the law to the best of their ability.
Any time this stuff goes to the court, Congress failed. They had almost 50 years to actually codify something into law and they didn’t. Hell, they can’t even get the removal of daylight saving time passed, which would be almost universally loved. That’s a slam dunk, but nope… incompetent idiots.
I swear this guy is such a clown… how can people unironically like him or say he was the winner of the debate?
Well, easy to say the debate was great for him. Prior to it, most people didn’t know he existed. Now some people are saying “He’s like a younger trump” and that his biggest problem is that the people who would vote for him will just vote for Trump.
