I dunno. I just feel less like I’m experiencing a fun new tool for communication the last few weeks. The communities here on Beehaw are still great and fantastic and aren’t what I’m bothered by. It’s just when I venture out in the world (which I often do) that I notice conversations are much more argumentative than I remember them being.
How’s everyone else doing? Is this a minor vibez check?
bound to happen when a community is expanded out of hate and negativity. the second people couldn’t redirect all of their anger towards reddit they turned towards others.
Yeah I’ve noticed it too. A couple weeks ago people were nicer. The mean people are trying my patience
You aren’t alone. Just this past day or two there’s been a big incident on Lemmyworld that Beehaw luckily was insulated from, so people are on high alert there. Also big news about Inmate #P01135809, Elon Musk, AI and stuff can put people on edge.
Definitely many Redditisms are back in Lemmy than before. I’m guilty of some of them on occassion still, but I try to counterbalance it by spreading kindness and appreciation around when I can.
What happened in lemmy.world?
I think they might be referring to the CSAM attack. Someone apparently flooded lemmy.world with CSAM images and a lot of people inadvertently saw them.
I think we’re safe on Beehaw but I’m not opening any inline image links I see on the fediverse just in case.
Yes you are correct, that is what I’m referring to. If you were on a Beehaw account at that time, you will have had no exposure to those images, since Beehaw is defederated.
Definitely had no exposure, just saw people who federate with both us and .world talking about it. I’m being cautious in case it happens to another instance, though.
Mine was until I decided to exercise my block button a lot more. Certain instances have a higher proportion of trolls and jerks, so that’s been frustrating. Though, it’s still worthwhile to see all the stuff and then let me curate it.
The block button’s availability without needing to file a specific report is the very best feature here
Has anyone noticed that downvotes have become more common too? Back when I first joined, I hardly saw any downvotes and now you see them in almost every single comment.
For example I don’t even how to downvote your post. (nor do I want to) Do you need to use a special Lemmy client to gain access to this functionality? Or is this because I’m from Beehaw? Either case, I don’t care ^
Some servers disable it, so you may need to switch to a different instance.
It’s Beehaw. We don’t do downvotes.
Beehaw elected to disable the downvote. The theory behind disabling downvotes is that its easier to have a meaningful discussion if you can say “this is why I think your comment might have some problems” instead of everyone clicking the dislike button. It also encourages users to mentally question if something is bad enough to report
For example I don’t even how to downvote your post. (nor do I want to) Do you need to use a special Lemmy client to gain access to this functionality? XD
Wait until you trigger one of the special groups of instances… Make one off hand comment and the whole instance will brigade you. I can’t wait unit blocking a whole instance is available…
Yup.
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I’ve also noticed an uptick of reactionary content as well, which only serves to make people upset.
I think it just comes in waves, it got bad when when the reddit API finally shuts down, then it slowly calmed down, now in the last week or so it’s starting again.
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the comments look more like the comments from reddit
It’s just the human condition. Humans are just plain mean and I am one of them. Humans also can’t get along anymore. Personally I blame the collapse of our society.
I don’t think humans are so bad. You probably just focus on the idiots like Elon Musk and other public figures.
I’m over 40 and almost everyone I meet are really nice.
Not every human is like that, granted, but most are, especially online, and I am among that number. It’s not a moral condemnation, it’s just a fact.
Like Elon Musk is an idiot but it’s really almost everyone else on Twitter I am talking about, for example. Most people are predictable, vicious, nasty, mean things and I don’t like them or want to be around them. Their actions speak for themselves.
Yeah but I think it’s because it’s social media. People are very different on those platforms. Some are judging people, some are intentionally misunderstanding people, some just wants to argue, some wants to feel superior etc.
In real life people act a lot nicer, maybe because it’s not socially acceptable to be like that in real life. On the other hand, if there would be a war-like situation, some people would turn nasty real fast. In wars, you see both the worst people and the best people.
I still think most people are good. But we notice every little insulting comment, so it seems like it’s mostly bad on social media. Everyone who is quiet or don’t react, we don’t notice.
Social media is not a real representation of the world, and it’s very important to keep reminding us of that. It’s mostly young people too, and they can be cruel because of not much life experience yet.
I came over with the initial reddit defector wave. I loved it here. You could have civil conversations, even when you disagreed with someone else. It honestly felt like the forums of the early 2000s again. Then it started getting more aggressive, and all the “well…aksually” type replies started happening. I find myself hardly on lemmy/kbin/beehaw anymore because of it.
Well akT’thually 😏 …
I for one; don’t mind a bit of drama here 'n there😭😔… It’s kinda alright. n it aligns well with what RL is like ; You can’t keep the crazies away from You 24/7. There is no such thing as a “safe place”. We’re all just whirling/swirling around in one big shitty toilet bowl 🚽. n we’ll get flushed down soon 🔜 enough too.
I really just try to go with the flow. I left reddit cause I kept getting warnings n kept getting banned 🚫 for no good reason, over n over again (IMO). 😂
So here I am 😁
It’s not about needing a safe space. It’s when you say something, and then someone comes by and starts picking apart one piece of what you said. Which never even relates to the conversation at hand anyhow. Or they try to “correct” you about some ridiculously minute grammar mistake/word choice. Or even better, they interpret what you’re trying to say completely wrong, and go on the offensive.
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What
Basically; it’s all fine with me. I don’t expect a sterile environment; especially when it comes to internet and social media. https://vlipsy.com/vlip/joker-arthur-fleck-laugh-buEacjux
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Me too. I suppose I was too optimistic about what Lemmy could be, eh. :( Then again, maybe these are just some additional growing pains. Time will tell!
Have you found another landing spot?
Sadly no. I guess it’s a good thing. I’m just not on any social media much now.
That’s been me, too. I’ll pop in here sometimes, but overall the whole thing has ended up making me realize that social media as a whole just… Isn’t that great, actually. It’s a constant stream of little things, many of them things to be upset about that I can’t do anything about.
I’ve been spending more time instead on things like reading, that require prolonged focus on one thing, and damn if I don’t feel better this way.
Also… Beehaw and lemmy in general seems to have gotten even more tilted into hardcore FOSS/privacy/Linux culture, which is the opposite of what I hoped would happen. Privacy is important to me but I dislike Linux and I just don’t prioritize it in the way that a lot of people here do, such that they’re talking about it what feels like all the time to the exclusion of other topics.
Still, I remain here enough to type this comment. shrug
I want to try Tildes instead maybe but I think that’s still invite-only.
As a ‘well, actually’ style poster, sorry I’ll calm it down a bit. I’d really like to get into Firefish or something to be able to make my own blog rather than like… pruning peoples political takes, making epicly long posts that recieve little attention, and oversharing. Maybe I’m not so good at link aggregator social media.
No not really. Just that people seem to have lost the honey moon feeling and are comfortable with downvoting shit when those first few weeks it was like a taboo to do so. And I don’t consider that rude.
I can’t tell anything about downvotes I just see how people are talking to eachother. And yeah. Honeymoon phase. I think that matches the sentiment I was using to frame what I think is going on
Not particularly, and intentionally rude comments tend to get downvoted. You can’t prevent random people from being a dipshit, but the community seems to tolerate it a lot less than other places.
Yeah, last week or two have been more aggressive overall
To me it seems the activity is declining, people just gave in to Reddit. It’s a bit strange.
You’re not the first to ask as far as I’ve seen, and it also seems you’re not alone. Dunno how real the effect is, but I’ve seen it it or felt it too.