• beef_curds [she/her]
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    432 years ago

    damn, if cycling is elite why did I get called a poorboy all those years for biking everywhere? ripoff

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      Because you were probably riding Tr*k or any of those <5k USD bices

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      52 years ago

      Cause it shifted.

      Cycling activism had a resurgence in the past few years what with the looming apocalypse and all. And as the eco movement grew stronger you really noticed the transient property that shifted bicyclist from trash poors who deserve to be spat for not having enough money for a car to privileged elites

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        212 years ago

        I was yelled “buy a bike you cheap fuck!” by a coworker cuz I used to walk 8 km from work to home

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    Although this is sadly kind of true. In major metro areas commuting distances if you want an affordable apartment are often way too high for cycling. Although cycling to a commuter bus/train isn’t out of the question!

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        Wait I misread the tweet. It’s silly to think of office drones as the elite anyway. Where I live you’d need at least a second paycheck for a decent lifestyle with a lot of office jobs. I remember being surprised that most of the office workers had 40+ min train commutes when I had my first “real” job in 00s and the city and surroundings has only gotten less affordable.

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          While there is some percentage of people so desperate they literally don’t have any choice about where they can live, that doesn’t describe most workers at least in developed countries. For a given rent, most workers have a choice to have more space at the expense of living in the suburbs and having a long commute, or less space and living closer to/within the urban core, such that you can get around on a bike if you want.

          The latter aren’t elite, they just make different choices.

          • 7bicycles [he/him]
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            32 years ago

            There’s also the phenomenon of disregarding car costs in choice of location due to lack of imagination about not needing one car per person

            I know quite a few non poor people who moved to the suburbs or exurbs because they “couldn’t” afford a single family home in cycling distance, then pretty much immediatly spend 60k on new cars because they need them to be reliable and then burn through like 300€ / month in operating cost for the commute alone at which point they would’ve had enough budget to level out the price difference.

            They’re mostly cool people, but a few of them definitely turned into carbrained I am the disadvantaged working class, those damn 2br apartment elite city slickers people

  • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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    142 years ago

    I used to bike everywhere because my job didn’t pay enough to save up for a car and its associated upkeep, and the busses were just slower than biking. I really hate carbrains.

  • Maoo [none/use name]
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    122 years ago

    Cyclists run the gamut but cycling infrastructure favors the wealthy. This favor is explicit (where agencies choose to create infrastructure, systematically) and implicit (land use follows “the market”, pushing the poor away from infrastructure).

    This would not be the case if we fixed the latter by overthrowing the capitalist class - or at leasr scaring the shit out if them.

    • MF_COOM [he/him]
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      52 years ago

      cycling infrastructure favors the wealthy. This favor is explicit (where agencies choose to create infrastructure, systematically) and implicit (land use follows “the market”, pushing the poor away from infrastructure).

      nkrumah-baffled

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          32 years ago

          ok so you don’t mean the existence of cycling infrastructure favours the wealthy you mean the lack of it disadvantages the poor

          • Maoo [none/use name]
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            22 years ago

            People choose to make capital investments to create cycling infrastructure. The active decision and investment and work is on the side of that coin that favors the wealthy.

            Land use and the emphasis on car-centric streets do as well, and is normally what cycling infrastructure is bolted onto. So the “default” lack of infrastructure was also intentionally created that way to favor the wealthy - the people who could afford cars early on. Streets were a commons that got restricted to private vehicles.

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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    grill-broke “Walking? Exercise!??! WhAt ArE wE a BuNcH oF AsIaNs!?!?!”

    Whenever you hear something like that, you know an idea is good.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    232 years ago

    I work retail and biked and skated everywhere for 30 years. Also I wish we got chairs as cashiers in the US.

  • this has nothing to do with anything except a critique of the characterization of physical labor jobs and cardio… i used to be a seasonal farmworker. not like tractor riding, either. like straight up vegetable picker without any fancy automation. i was young and did a lot of stretching before and after work, so in some ways i was in incredible shape after many months of this. very flexible, strong back, strong hands, seemingly preternatural stamina for just constantly doing shit all day in the heat and humidity. and a remorseless eating machine. a lot of dudes i worked with didn’t stretch and while they were tough as balls and could do major work, but had a lot of posture problems from pulls and sprains and shit. if there were any kind of equity in this world, farm workers would get unlimited massage therapy and all that body work stuff that is gatekept behind $$$ for people who like sit in an ergonomic chair and make six figures.

    my cardio was dogshit though lmao. like i could walk anyone else into the ground, but anything quicker or longer than a little jog would have me feeling like i was dying.

  • teft
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    152 years ago

    I’m far from elite. I just really like my bike over a car. In my city a car is slower unless you’re going really far since a bike won’t be stopped in traffic. Plus my bike is an MTB so i can ride over anything I want. Can’t do that in a car without getting in trouble.

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    82 years ago

    This is something that gets repeated on these very boards - in this very thread!

    • Mokey [none/use name]
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      42 years ago

      I just dont like rich people using my congested busy roads in my poverty city as a bike training course.

      Like our lives suck already why cant you go be annoying somewhere else, i want to go home without accidentally murdering one of you.

        • Mokey [none/use name]
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          12 years ago

          Yes if bike infrastructure was something that was actual possible in hellworld, cool great but please the people who own literal million dollar homes stop using my shitty ass town as your make shift tour de france. Im talkong about something very specific, not encouraging cars as a good thing

              • 7bicycles [he/him]
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                12 years ago

                Cmon man we’re all leftists, you need to have two solutions for every problem. One is in FALGSOC, one is in hellworld. They tend to be different.

                The point I’m getting at is the only feasible way to get rid of your annoyance is more bicycle infrastructure.

                • Mokey [none/use name]
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                  12 years ago

                  Yeah i dont disagree though, in the meanwhile i would like a meteor to hit the rich suburbs by my hometown

      • MF_COOM [he/him]
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        52 years ago

        The most frothingfash take on Hexbear lmao get a grip bike lanes are for everybody and allows for completely decommodified transportation imagine finding a way to make them about a secret agenda for the rich.

        You’re not entitled to the road because you drive a car. Fuck. Cars.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    Random capitalization Really does seem like a boomer Trait! grillman

    So does weird spacing and misuse of punctuation marks !! grill-broke

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    When I lived in NYC I noticed the pmc libs are never even awake at 4:30-6 AM when the working class people bike to work. Some of the type-a ones pretend they wake up super early to hit the gym but they either lie or go to gyms in their homes/doorman building amenities.