There’s some misinformation floating around regarding Lemmy not having a karma system. While many have discovered otherwise, this is for those who may not have.
While it’s not exposed in the Lemmy default user interface, Lemmy does have a fully functional karma system and it is visible in third party clients such as WefWef and Memmy.
Do with that what you will.
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Do these apps have desktop plugin equivalents?
How accurate is it? I use Memmy and after an update I went from 50ish points for comments to 3. I just checked on Wefwef and it shows that same score as well, so I’m unsure what happened. I didn’t delete or change anything
I don’t really care about karma, I actually would prefer if neither of them had it visible, but I’m interested to know what happened
Karma farm again?
I’m a karma whore, and I love this
I bet you made this comment just to receive more upvotes.
You sir have deciphered my life purpose
I think I will do nothing with that information.
Upvoted for visibility! 🤪
You gained so much karma with that statement
Can’t wait to spend it on food and other essential goods!
You have over 2000 points! Nice work bean!
Holy shit, we can get beans for this?
1 point = 2 beans, you will be a beautiful instrument of flatulence!
I already am.
Upbeans and downbeans…
Fantastic!
One thing I love about the fediverse is I dont have to give a fuck about karma
WE WILL MONITOR YOU FOR YOU.
I am extremely disappointed by this.
I thought we were free of such toxicity here.
Not like forums without karma aren’t toxic. I think karma has merits. The motivation of people to get the number go up can be both good and bad.
Pretty sure this is just the apps adding up all the upvotes/downvotes you receive and not an actual Lemmy feature.
It’s right in the API: https://join-lemmy.org/api/interfaces/PersonAggregates.html
Returns: comment_count, comment_score, id, person_id, post_count, post_score
Upvotes are useful for determining what people like and dislike so you can sort posts and comments
Account karma is for narcissists to masturbate about how loved they are
Haha yeah. Now let’s see Paul Allen’s karma…
Upvotes are useful for determining what people like and dislike so you can sort posts and comments
> Things people like get more upvotes
> Upvotes give you karma
> Therefore posting things people like gives you more karmaAnd?
Not sure if this was an argument for karma, but it sounds like an argument for avoiding contraversy and trying to fit in This is why everyone on Reddit appears to have the same opinion. I much prefer a diversity of opinions, and no penalty for speaking one’s mind (while treating each other with decency).
Karma makes sense, in theory, but in practice, it just punishes anyone who diverges from the herd.
it just punishes anyone who diverges from the herd
So you’re saying people get less karma for posts that diverge from the herd. That can only mean those posts get fewer upvotes, which means they rank lower
In other words, the sort-by-votes system makes uncontroversial posts more likely to be seen, while the karma system makes those same posts more likely to exist. My point, therefore, is that both systems have a similar overall effect on the website, and that the result of their conjunction is only that the effect is amplified
Agreed. As others have pointed out, voting helps to elevate higher quality posts (even if it doesn’t always work that way), but karma takes that imperfect process to its ridiculous extreme.
My biggest problem with karma is that it bakes in a reason for bots to repost everyone else’s posts. It also encourages people to sell their high karma accounts (god knows why someone would want to buy one)
Can confirm, am narcissist
Don’t threaten me with a good time!
Hey I’m already tracking my karma, no need to convince me !
Welcome to Lemmy where everything is made up and the Karma doesn’t matter.
Whose line was it… can’t remember! Anyway…
That’s right, the karma is just like the salad bar at an all-you-can-eat Chinese buffet
Well said.
Thus the tradition was carried over from the dark place. Go back? Namaste.
Which instance keeps track of it? What happens when that instance blocks out the users / instances you earned from other sources? It just seems really exploitable if it’s too open ended.
Technically, all of them. Your home instance will be the most accurate because it’ll have the most complete data about you but each instance you have federated contact with will end up keeping track. I honestly haven’t pulled apart the code to see how it all comes together but I suspect that may be a reason why they don’t surface the data in the UI, lack of consistency.
Karma on Lemmy has zero value, because you can easily manipulate the numbers.
Unlike Reddit?
Can you spin up your own Reddit instance and give yourself ♾-1 karma?
i’m personally going to shoot for NaN karma, maybe null if i’m feeling spicy.
I used to create a new account on reddit every few years to “reset” my Internet presence.
Didn’t give a shit about karma, still don’t.
When you need a bit more, there are a couple of ways you can do a quick search/copy/paste as new jokes/memes pop up and you get votes for the Lolz. Easy to farm a couple of hundred or more each time.
However, by talking sense in r/Thailand (i.e. from a perspective of someone who actually LIVES here) and call out stupid bullshit posts from wannabes (people who know everything about a country after a week’s holiday in a whore hole) and you’ll get a hundred downvotes in ten seconds.
Karma is crap.
Reminds me of California and Bay Area related posts. 98% of the people have never even been there and just lie and exaggerate its problems.
Same here. If any of my friends correctly identify my username as me, my annual account reset puts them back to square one…not that my accounts were anything but completely tame.
Also nice username!
Also nice username!
right back at you!
My points have reset a couple times over the last couple weeks, so they don’t mean much.
Apparently “something” goofed things up with regards to the tallies with the 18.1 updates. Noticed a script that reconciled things published to Lemmy Support this morning for a short-term fix. Whether there will be a great reconciliation baked in to the system or not, in the future, remains to be seen.
I don’t really care. My primary account was on vlemmy, but that seems to be dead now.
Thanks, I hate it. Promotes gamesmanship and super douches like Gallowboob.
Yeah if people start going for Karma we’ll be plagued by “this” and stupid puns. Yesterday I saw a reddit post where the guy misspelled WiFi as Wife when explaining his problem, and then the top 10 comments were “omg dude you can’t just get a new wife” or “I wouldn’t come to Reddit for a problem with my wife”
The actual solutions to the problem were rubbish too
Yup, there’s a lot of hurrrr hurrrr hurrr stuff on reddit. Which isn’t inherently bad…but they often just keep pushing it ad nauseum. There’s no such concept as “OK, enough already” on there.
A bit of humour is fine, but when it drowns out the actual information it’s frustrating.
Have an upvote, so as to better game the system stranger.
At the same time it’s shows who you should block. I don’t always remember usernames but I had the top posters like that blocked. Made reddit so much better to use.
Yeah, that is basically what the Karma System was for.
Yeah, I blocked gallowboob years ago, I was just wondering if he left during the reddit exodus or if he’s still there, posting 80% of the front page content. Not gonna go check though…
Was he the bird guy?
That was Unidan. Gallowboob was just a repost karma farmer.
But it also encourages people to generate content. It’s a slippery slope.
What kind of content though? I’d rather have a few good posts a day than all that karma-whoring.
All kinds of content. There’s a difference between generating content and karma whoring.
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