Former president tells Glenn Beck he would have ‘no choice’ but to lock up opponents ‘because they’re doing it to us’
Putin: Amateur!
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Traitor is going to ADX Florence probably. 23 h/day in a cage by himself. No chance an inmate will lay hands on him. All the better, he should live his remaining years in misery and humiliation.
Edit: to all those who think he’s gonna kick it at mar-a-fucko, where any Chinese or Russian agent can visit, are you aware that he’s being charged under the Espionage Act?
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I don’t think he will be in gen pop.
Even if he goes to prison, which if he’s convicted there’s a good chance he gets something more similar to house arrest due to his position as a former president, he is 100% not going to be in general population. I believe he’s guilty and hope that if the trial proves that that he’s convicted. But people imagining him in the chow line in an orange jumpsuit are fooling themselves.
Yeah he’ll 100% be on house arrest. No one’s going to throw a former US President in actual jail.
He would. He would absolutely do it.
Fuck. damn it, you’re 100% right.
No one expects the trump card.
If nothing else I’ll settle for him officially being barred from holding office.
Trump could rape a baby on Wall Street on video and he wouldn’t go into gen pop.
I mean, if he did hopefully somebody would be nice enough to cap him, but he’s not going to go into normal jail like a normal person would under any circumstance.
Appeals will take years, if granted. And I bet he’ll find ways or sympathetic judges.
It, at least, cannot be ruled out. A conviction is the end of the first chapter.
If there’s a spectrum between chow line and house arrest I would’ve thought he’d be a little closer to the chow line end than kicking back at mar-a-lago.
Like segregation or something? There has to be at least the appearance of “one justice”.
He did make enemies of the Clintons. That’s a dangerous place to be.
Is it? Is that why he ran against one and won?
I was referencing this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_body_count_conspiracy_theory
Ah sorry I didn’t catch you were joking. Sorry about that.
Pretty good though
The last thing anyone needs is for that brain dead cheeto to be seen by his supporters as a martyr.
Fuck him.
They need to ask ab9ut this during these republican debate/PR events. Do you support tump’s call tto arrest his political opponents?" Yes or no,
They already asked them if they would support Trump as nominee ( their political rival ) if he was arrested and imprisoned. I think 6 of 8 said “yes”.
Technically 5 of 8 said yes, DeSantis waited to see what everyone else did and then raised his hand as well.
I recall pence also hesitating
Hesitating isn’t the same as waiting to make sure you’re on the same team as the popular kids.
If anything hesitating puts him marginally above these other bootlicking fascists.
Stop pretending you can debate fascism away.
If by ‘debate’ you mean ‘execute by hanging’ then you can debate fascists away.
Ummm, that’s not the question you’re hoping it is.
They chanted “lock her up!” at rallies.
The people who still support this man (and it’s a lot of people) would turn against anyone who answered with a no.
That’s why they should ask the question. We are either a nation of laws or we are not.
The people being asked the question will not answer in good faith. They are blood thirsty, they are angry, and they want a scapegoat, not a civics lesson.
If those peo0le who are running for president are blood thirsty, we should probably know about it before voting starts.
At this point you can just take it as a given
You can listen to to to them talk at any recorded rally they have. There are interviews with these people. Websites. PACs. Years of history. Television debates are not the only way to know thier thoughts. None of these people appeared out of thin air.
DeSantis was a lawyer for Gitmo; Trump wanted to execute five innocent black men before he had any political ambitions; Vivek fully embraces the caste system that benefited his family in the past, and has pretty openly suggested he wants to use violence to implement it here. We know the people who are running for president are blood thirsty, they don’t hide that in any way. They chose to run on a conservative platform, violence is inherent to the ideology, and on top of that frequently advertise how well they would play the role of violence if elected.
Those 5 black men he wanted executed were between 14 and 16 years old.
He wanted to execute five black and Hispanic children. That’s what he wanted to do. Paid from his own pocket to advertise it too.
I’m not correcting you because I disagree, I just wanted to drive that point home.
Your comment is 100% on point aside from that little error.
I agree with all of this, but unfortunately none of it is framed this way in the media.
The mass media kinda has a “Jews for Hitler” vibe going about it right now, because a lot of Trump’s “political enemies” are journalists. They should stop pussyfooting around that fact and stop covering this as a horse race because if he wins he’s gonna run his horse right over them first with the rest of us not too far behind.
Didn’t Ramaswamy basically say he would rule through executive order and ignore the courts and congress?
Trump doesn’t do debates anymore. He doesn’t have to. I think he has saturated his market.
Once again the Right is accusing the Left of things the Right wants to do.
Pretty sneaky trick really.
Say your enemy is going to do something
Do it
Get told “Hey you’re doing X”
Tell them “Projecting much? Everyone knows you’re the one who’s doing X, I even said so before you accused me of anything!”
Once again the Right is accusing the Left of things the Right wants to do.
Trump isn’t entirely wrong, because he is on his way to being locked up. Though, it isn’t only the left doing it and it isn’t because he is a political opponent.
Do unto others as your narcissistic brain thinks others are doing on to you.
All that’s missing is him huffing “don’t you know who I am??” While clutching his pearls.
Isn’t this what the other wing of the American party are threatening to do with him?
I don’t think the law works that way, but let’s just say: Yes. The people who didn’t try to overthrow the government with the help of hillbillies and the Gravy Seals want to lock him up for trying to overthrow the government with the help of hillbillies and the Gravy Seals.
These people who didn’t try to overthrow the government are the ones who rigged the last election though right?
I mean, I believe he will try.
That sure sounds like a violation of his terms of release in his court cases.
I’d love to see them revoke his bail and imprison him for this.
If you’re expecting someone to actually enforce consequences on him for this you haven’t been paying attention.
Do you think no one will put him in prison after he is convicted and sentenced?
I’m kind of worried about that being the case. Not American though, you should probably be more worried if you actually live there.
The only way he would be able to avoid prison is by leaving the country.
Being an outside observer I am kind of excited for him to flee the country and attempt to run for president of the United States from somewhere like Russia or North Korea.
Best. Timeline. Ever.
I don’t think that is likely to happen.
Which part exactly? Him being found guilty, him trying to flee the country, or him continuing to claim victory after fleeing the country?
This timeline is eerily close to a conceivable reality.
This dude absolutely cannot get near the white house again.
Vote. And get all your friends, coworkers, and families to vote. That’s how we stop this bullshit from happening. And vote at the state and local level too. It actually can make a hell of a difference.
I’ve voted on stuff that passed by a mere 1,250 votes, and restored bus lines that ran past my house by voting and organizing. It’s kind of amazing to see it in action.
So here is the rub. Sit down with a true Trumper sometime, and show them these sorts of quotes. They ARE voting for this. They DO support this. They think this is the right and just thing to do.
Have you tried incessantly asking them why? It probably won’t do any good, but it’s easier & possibly more fun than entertaining their position with more thought than they may have put into getting to that position.
Asking others and even yourself “why?” when it comes to views is a really good thing to practise, I agree. And don’t leave it to just one layer. Ask “why?” after every single explanation and see how deep you or whoever you’re asking can get. It’s one thing to have a view and a whole another thing to know how you got to that view.
I’ve gotten out of harmful views by using this technique and realising that the only reason I held some views was because “others told me so”, which caused me to look into things more.
Of course this won’t work with really stubborn people but it’s a good start to make at least some people think.
Yes. They feel it is right in general. Some have some more concrete reasons, but most just seem to feel that way.
“Moderate conservatives” are triggered by rainbows.
“Moderate conservatives” think the only crime is petty crime, and it’s committed only by minorities.
“Moderate conservatives” think basic tenants of feminism are a threat to all of western society.
“Moderate conservatives” think teaching civil rights history should be banned.
“Moderate conservatives” need to die. We will move forward without “Moderate conservatives.”
A surprising number of elections (at many levels) gave been decided by a tiny number of votes.
I really feel sorry for the voting system in the US. You have extremely gerrymandered districts in some states, and basically one of two options, and if one of them is corrupt and appealing to the ignorant, you just basically have one that you better hope you don’t disagree too much with.
It doesn’t have to be that way, haha. If we voted in great enough numbers, you’d overpower the 'mander and could rewrite the rules on how boundaries are drawn, which should be by an independent third party, NOT the parties themselves.
It’s dog shit and helps keep things nice and shitty.
Of course it’s horrible and fascistic to declare you’re planning to use your power to lock up political opponents, as opposed to letting the justice system play out.
…but if appropriate decision makers can prove actual wrongdoing in a court of law, I have no inherent qualms with Donald Trumps political enemies being prosecuted.
I don’t think many people are pro-corruption so that’s fair, but Trump is insane. He isn’t pursuing justice he wants revenge.
He’s a freak of nature.
So they screech about the justice system being weaponized because they’re being tried and prosecuted for their crimes, and then turn around and in the same breath just flat out say they’ll weaponize the justice system. Classic case of saying the quiet part out loud.
MAGA supporters are far beyond caring whether or not you think they have shame.
If you (in the general sense) don’t believe that Trump and his cronies committed crimes, then you would likely believe that the justice system is being used to attack him. If it’s being used to attack him, then him doing the same to his opponents is equivalent and fair.
Whether or not you believe he committed crimes is dependent on your news sources, ability to fact check and think critically, and your trust in the justice system.
A very significant portion of the population doesn’t believe he committed crimes.
Project, deny, gaslight, then project again. The GOP maga play book
Gaslight Obstruct Project
Most conservatives, as in all of those not in charge, have issues with empathy; specifically imagining the inner world of any other human being. That’s not to say that cannot do this very simple human activity, rather they specifically cannot imagine any other human on the planet thinks any differently or has any other motivations than them. Therefore if they would do something in a situation, then everyone in that situation must be trying to do the thing that they would do.
They believe democrats are weaponizing the justice system, because it’s what they would do, and thus they assume anyone that failed to do that before now was simply prevented from doing so – now that they see ‘weaponized’ justice happening, they think it’s fair game for their guys to do it.
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