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RPI: Actually dying
Me: Gitlab time
lol. Sir, I only have 4 cores and 8GB
YOU DONT KNOW ME SON
Sweet baby Jesus. Reminds me of folks running Lemmy on them and wondering why their SD card is always failing 😅
Slap a USB NVMe IN there and be done with it.
I was running lemmy on it too until a few days ago. I had an SSD for the database though.
oh and the gitlab instance was the straw that broke the camel’s back for the Pi, I ended up going with forgejo instead.How is Forgejo these days?
I like it better than gitlab, gitlab is too cluttered and has loads of features I don’t need. forgejo will be a lot better when they get federation going though
Can anyone tell me of I can run a Plex server and a pi hole on the new raspberry 8gig ?
Probably? I believe the pihole is pretty low resource. I have mine on a Zero.
Ty
yes, but I would recommend transcoding everything for direct play before putting it on the server
Or just disable transcoding and play in full quality
Im running jellyfin and pihole on a 4gb and have not encountered any issues. 8gb should be more than enough
Ok ty for the info.
I made a TV network on mine using a SSD, VLC, and some recordings, a composite to coax converter, and some DVDs I bought from a thrift store. Works pretty well.
Why not use a full-size computer for all that stuff?
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I take it you don’t already have a desktop you can use?
I think they mean the power consumption. Single board pis and such sip power. Desktops are usually drawing too much at idle to leave running like a pi. i mean you can if you have cash to do that
To save money, they can go the derelict laptop route.
If they get a low tdp board, maybe like an old laptop without a battery, the power difference isn’t going to be too much. Pi can pull 9W at full tilt. And an old Ultrabook with it’s monitor tuned off or unplugged can probably pull 35-45W at full tilt.
So 45W - 9W = 36W
36w x 24hr x 356 = 315,360Wh
315.36kWh x 0.25 cents = 78.84 a year
But that’s assuming everything is running at full speed. For something running 24/7, we can probably estimate idle state is more common. Laptops can idle about 3-4W a pi4 is also idle around 3-4W.
So 90% at 4W and 10% at 45W for the laptop
And 90% at 4W and 10% at 9W for the pi
Gives us 8.1W average for the laptop
And 4.5W for the pi
Giving us a total difference of 31.536kWh. or 7.88 additional a year.
This is also assuming the laptop has the same computational power as the pi, which isn’t true, so the laptop will end up finishing tasks faster than the pi and use more power for a shorter amount of time.
Intel Speedstepping enters the room
So my old T7400 with 1000w power supply is a bad plan.
For me electricity is included in the rent. Probably why I have a beer fridge next to my couch.
fire up the mining rigs
I see myself in this picture, and I don’t like it 😂😂😂 that’s why I’m running 2 pi’s 😁 photoprism, pihole, pivpn, unbound, portainer, and multiple HDD setup with cron jobs as a nas, and another pi with heimdal, pihole, pivpn. Unify controller, NUT server… Prob forgetting some lpl, Looking to add a lot more docker containers… So ya… This meme got me in the feels lol
I feel you. I don’t know your usecase for photoprism, but do you know immich? https://immich.app
I really appreciate you making me aware of immich!! Think I may host it on my other pi, and give it a try out, have photosprism and immich on separate pi and see which I like better 😊 thanks!!
Am I the only person that thinks this meme doesn’t make sense? Hulk’s giving Antman tacos because Antman lost his tacos and would very much appreciate the generous offer.
yeah, its ironic
I’ve got an old PowerEdge tower server sitting in my basement that I picked up for $300 on eBay. Dual 6-core Xeons. It’s running probably 7 Ubuntu VM’s in Hyper-V and not even breaking a sweat. Still need to get the GPU passthrough for Jellyfin configured though.
Eating $70 in power a month.
My 5700g proxmox host, switches, access points, and modem use 120 watts according to my UPS. That’s $10/month in my $0.12/kWh geographical area.
It might if it were really working hard but at idle it draws around 160 watts.
Edit: I was close. 140 watts.
My power edge R630 was eating way too much power… It’s off and being replaced with a second consumer grade PC to be my second host.
I don’t really have anything that takes enough clocks to justify that pig of a machine.
Wait, we’re supposed to justify getting new servers? You don’t just hoard them like blank notebooks?
Well, I was… But dual 700w power supplies running a whole lot of VMs was a bit too much power draw.
How much power does this thing draw?
All you need is Lemmy.
Lemmy is Love.
Lemmy is Life.
This is why I bought myself a server (consumer pc with 40TB) that does all that for only 1000€
I used an old laptop I had with a broken screen. Werks
I used to have my own server for 4 years. It was my personal compute with virtual machine and 10TB. Then I checked my electricity bill, it was so expensive I rebase everything on a single RockPro64 with a raid 1. Hardware budget is not that expensive, but you should definitly calculate how much electricty will weighs on your house budget
Shit, I just realized my NAS is less powerful than a modern Pi. It’s only a dual core, 1.6GHz Atom with 1.8GB ram.
That’s not even nearly as powerful as a pi 4. At least on paper
what architecture is the CPU?
X86_64 It’s an Acer H340, it originally ran windows home server starting in 2009 but I switched to Debian in 2016. It has run the entire 14 years less about a week of power outages.
Just buy another Raspberry
Thin clients!
Tiny mini micro!
I dumped all my pis late last year and bought a $30 thin client with better specs and more io.
Me in the future
Does nobody else cobble together home servers with spare parts any more?
A cheap used office computer with a good CPU and decent RAM can far exceed the power of a Pi. That’s been my strategy. I just Frankenstein it a bit with leftover parts from my gaming computer and load it up with disks.
There’s good deals on lenovo m900s or dell optiplex that are great for this. New enough to have low idle wattage and decent performance for VMs and containers, and old enough that they’re cheap.
Ditto. My current server has the MoBo + CPU of a friend’s old all-in-one, the case of an old HTPC, RAM from a trashcan, and big fat platters.
I do this. Random ebay junk is both better and cheaper than a raspberry pi. When I first started doing home server stuff, I had the option between an Athlon XP and a raspberry pi and the Athlon XP delivered better performance (I tried both).
Random ebay junk is both better and cheaper than a raspberry pi
A PC drawing 150 watts will burn through $225+ in electricity a year. The raspberry pi maxes out at like 6 watts.
RPi is the best performance to operating cost you are going to find if you don’t need more juice for high intensity stuff (transcoding, etc)
Just me lol
Well yeah. I do, out of necessity. I can’t justify buying a pi yet. Someday I hope to.
If you don’t need the electronic side of the RPi, you might be happier with some old thinclient PC that offices sometimes get rid of for cheap.
I bought a couple Raspis before they even came out, and they’re handy for certain applications, but just can’t really stand up to the task for whole home server needs.
I have a RPi1B that runs Pihole just fine, and I have a RPi4 that runs a bunch of services fine (plug in a SSD, don’t use a SD card).
But if you’re hoping to do a photo server or run a media centre… nah. Rpis are very power efficient, but for media you really need something that’s gonna suck more power.
The Raspberry Pi: When “a computer, any computer” will do. I have so many of them in service bolted to the backs of televisions or monitors as digital signage.
I cobbled my home server together with twine, a 14u server rack and some used poweredge servers.
I’ve done it a ton in the past, I’ll do it again in the future, but having a essentially plug and play tiny little box that sips juice and still does what I need while being silent… is rather nice
I also want something with a multi-TB hi-speed drive that can handle a dozen different services.
There are external drives the pi can access via USB, 480mbps. Should be fast enough for most LAN uses.
yep i do, amd phenom x6 with 8gb of ram is still rocking!
but not for long, i have too many services for the ram and it swaps too much.
Just download some more RAM already
My Goodness Why Didn’t I Think of That!
Mine is a server I got for free because the person I got it from didn’t want it anymore as he was going to something more power efficient
Mine’s running dual Xeons with 192GB of RAM
Edit: I really do need to upgrade it to something less power hungry though
I just imagine the power in three zip codes flickering (I kid I kid)
hawt
Spare parts don’t run on 5-10 watts.
Spare parts can also do a heck of a lot more.
Everything is a trade-off ;-)
I setup a k8s rpi cluster for this reason, and now I just have 4 overloaded pis 🙃
Sounds like k3s would be right up your alley, it’s API compatible with k8s but has a lot less overhead than k8s, designed for use on low power devices like the Pi.
Could you not just actually build a dedicated PC for that price? Lol
But then he won’t have a k8s rpi cluster
I mean you could have a smaller cluster
This is the real reason
I do also have a dedicated PC as a NAS, the rpi cluster was more for learning. And k8s does provide some cool flexibility
and the power consumption adds up, too.
This is true. Really annoyed that arm as a hole isn’t being utilized like it could be by really anyone but apple. We could be making arm Linux powerhouses that sip power like a mid tier x86 laptop. The worry by some is that there is now way to do this without having every component solderd on, but dell has already made a new open laptop ram slot standard that has almost the same latency as Apple’s soldered ram.
Arm is the future, and needs to be treated as such more than it is.
I mean, it’s not just Apple, Google is all in on ARM and has been for like a decade and a half.
As for the laptop, look up framework
Yeah but Chromebooks suck, apple is making computers that aren’t just for web browsing
Pis are only 5W, right? 4 of them should still add up to about as much as a midweight laptop.
I found that for my use case (jellyfin, gitea, portainer, nextcloud, adguard, …) the pis are still nearly idle but the bottleneck for me was ram. Anyone with similar experience?
