will the secret service have to guard him when he’s in prison? Questions that keep me up at night lol
Secret service bringing him cakes with metal files.
That old man in no way has the strength, or endurance, to file through steel bars even if we gave him a Dremel. Ain’t no rasp going to help him.
Files, softer than the metal they are meant to cut through. Everyday.
I’ve said this before but the obvious solution is to reopen Guantanamo and just leave him there.
He’ll have to fend off the seagulls himself.
We could call France’s ambassador and ask if we could borrow Devil’s Island…
Alkatraz sounds cooler though.
No way am I going to let him ruin Alcatraz. That was the best audio tour I ever had and I don’t want to have to hear him yelling bullshit over the headphones. They aren’t noise-cancelling.
Seriously though, I highly recommend it if you’re in San Francisco. You go through the building hearing testimonies from former prisoners and guards all while the sounds of the prison’s various areas, whichever one you happen to be in, play in the background while you walk through it. It’s amazingly immersive.
It would be ironic to have him in prison in California.
I concur. I’d recomment the evening tour if they still offer it.
My favorite option is have the government take over Mar-A-Lago. Trump stays in one room - which gets stripped to just the bare walls with a prison cot tossed in. Nobody else - except for Secret Service or support staff like janitors and cooks - are allowed in.
At mealtime, he’s marched down the bare glass hallways to the empty dining area where he’s served standard prison food. Then he’s marched right back to his room. Let him rot as a shell of a man in the shell of the complex he loved so much.
Guantanamo never closed
Yes, they’ll keep Trump very safe as he’s making license plates!
Let’s just build him a tiny house in Northern Alaska that has no running water. He and his loyalist SS men who deleted all the texts can be stationed out there until he dies of old age 4 months later
Trump is entitled to Secret Service protection for life. This is not only to prevent a former President, but also what’s in his head.
It’s already been pretty much established that if Trump goes to jail, the Secret Service protects him there as well. How that would work is a logistical nightmare that hasn’t yet been sorted out, and is one of the reasons that judges haven’t jailed him already – its a can of worms that’s going to have to be opened at some point, but nobody wants to be the one to have to open the can.
This is why they’ll give him house arrest at best.
This is not only to prevent a former President,
if only they could prevent trump.
I’m thinking the Dept. of Corrections will have to build a facility just for Trump. It’ll be like Spandau Prison in Germany, a prison with just one prisoner.
Maybe they’ll repurpose a wing of a prison to be the Trump wing…
Can anybody explain why thats a logistical nightmare. Seems pretty simple to me: he’s in a fucking jail cell in a secure building and the secret service protects him like they do in any other place; except easier because its a secure location.
Sure, he can’t be in general population. But don’t they have other inmates like that? Just do what they do then (I guess he gets a cell to himself; maybe gets his meals delivered).
I don’t see why thats more than a minor paperwork glitch. Surely we’ve had inmates before that need to be reasonably protected from other inmates. Heck, I’ll bet gitmo is ready to handle it.
I assume the most reasonable solution would be house arrest. It would be nice to see him in a jail cell, but that seems impossible.
Everybody grab your popcorn and settle in for the ensuing circus!
how do they prevent disclosure of the jury?
Oh are we pretending the magats aren’t going to out them as soon as the trial begins?
Just don’t point the camera at the jury?
Or let them sit in a separate room
That would probably be best once Trump realises he can sabotage the whole trial with the use of his camera phone.
Couldn’t members of the public do the same?
Yes, but most of them don’t have “rich and powerful white guy” near-total immunity from the “justice” system, so they wouldn’t get away with jury tampering like their Mango Messiah has so far.
If they’re allowed in, then I assume so.
But they might actually face repercussions for doing so, while Trump feels little people laws are beneath him, and in fairness here, I’ve not seen a lot in the last 6 years or so that might prove him wrong on that.
Rich people rarely face consequences. Epstein ran a literal paedo island for 20 years, and it was (probably) only the blackmailing of even richer people that landed him in prison and “suicided”.
Even with all these charges, I reckon the best we can hope for is Trump not being allowed to run the country again, and even then I suspect time and poor shape may take care of that so a judge doesn’t have to.
I will guarantee you, especially with everything surrounding this case and this defendant, that cell phones of any kind aren’t going to even be allowed in the courtroom.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if the jury was seated in a separate room, viewing the hearing from behind a one-way mirror, just to prevent anybody from randomly being able to visually identify and publish the names of any of the jurors.
I can’t wait for all the what’s actually behind the glass conspiracy theories.
you mean you don’t believe the jury is lizards
There’s no way they’re going to allow Trump (or anyone else for that matter) to bring in a cell phone.
And even if they do, do you honestly think that (a) Trump would know on his own how to record and stream video, or (b) he wouldn’t be immediately tackled to the ground and the cell phone removed from his possession? I doubt he’d just be allowed to sit there and record the faces of the jury while the judge just sits there and says “Aw, shucks. I guess Trump got the better of us!”
Honestly, no. I don’t think he can use one other than for tweeting nonsense. And the bird icon is gone now, so he can’t even do that.
We are all the jury on this blessed day
They can follow it on tv from home
They keep the camera pointed away from them. Are you too young for the OJ trial?
It should be on twitch too. Could you imaging spamming KEKW whenever trump says something dumb or the judge having to read out twitch donations?
And they say there’s nothing good on TV anymore.
I for one welcome the schadenfreude.
How can they actually get jurors for this?
If the facts require the jurors to convict, there is no chance that this won’t ruin their lives (if not significantly shorten them). Even before then, it’s going to be a problem. His supporters have already declared and demonstrated that they are willing to use violence.
Thank you, but I’d sit in jail as long as necessary to not be on any of these juries.
You raise a very good point. I think they should be able to use “innominate jury” (anonymous jury) so that the public and the defendants are not able to know who they are. I don’t know how common it is in RICO cases but it wouldn’t supprise me if this will be used in these cases.
The jury will be secret.
Good luck keeping it that way.
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Actually it was never the case for the grand jury. Grand jury names are always public by law in ga. They probably knew they would get doxxed.
No, in Georgia a Grand Jury’s participants are public record.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-georgia-trump-indictment-grand-jurors-names-786743008561
How do you even find an impartial jury? I might be wrong but I was almost certain that an impartial jury is required to convict, which is why they always ask you about potential conflicts of interest when you attend jury duty. How many impartial jurors can there be at this point? Tbh, I’m not even sure I would trust an impartial jury with this case. To me, if you’re claiming to be impartial then you’re either lying, or you give zero fucks about politics and the people around you. Being impartial in this context has some really concerning implications about you.
I think there are lots of people who have a strong belief in justice regardless of their ideology. Being impartial does not mean you have no foreknowledge of the case but means your willing to make a decision based on the evidence alone. Lots of infamous people are tried and convicted even though their case was quite public.
The problem is I believe there will be a much higher possibility of people with a hard political conviction that will attempt to hide that bias just to get on the jury. And they might. People willing to ignore evidence even if God himself came down and testified.
Being impartial doesn’t mean that you are midway between prosecution and defendant.
Impartial means that you will take the facts presented to you at face value and derive logical conclusions from those facts.
Am I biased? Fucking absolutely and I hope he’s found guilty.
Can I set aside my bias and only consider the evidence as presented? Also fucking absolutely.
There are plenty of people who care enough about the rule of law that would let a man they hate walk free. If you can’t, perhaps you should be more concerned with yourself than the implications you ascribe to others who don’t deserve it.
My concern is that there’s a certain type of person who would have zero issues with lying about how impartial they are. Here’s a hint, they’re not like us.
I loath trump… but if I was on the jury I would do my job and set aside my personal feelings and listen to the evidence presented by both side and make a decision within the confines of the law… if the prosecution gave charges they couldn’t fully prove or over reached I hate to say it I’d have to find him not guilty even though I know morally he fucked up but it’s the states job to have competent prosecutors that do their job well. I truly hope the prosecution does a stellar job and gets a conviction and I hope those in the jury take it seriously and set aside personal feelings and listen to the facts.
Sadly this will only be watched as justice porn for the left, the right won’t even care.
I think it’s going to be the exact opposite. They’ll make a mockery of the justice system and turn it into a circus. The media will report every day and Drumph will keep his name continuously talked about. Meanwhile his team will watch what is reported nightly so they can strategize a narrative for “his viewers” while at the same time going as close to whatever line(s) as they can without crossing, but still keeping it a spectacle. It’ll be even worse than the 4 years he was president.
They cross the lines every day. Just a little. Problem is, the lines moves to compensate, instead of standing their ground.
Alex Jones tried that, it didn’t really work out for him. It will depend on the judge.
Perhaps, but Alex could never say “you can’t do that to an ex-president.”
Jones did say all kinds of other dumb shit, but not that.
Trump also has a slightly more rabid following.
Trump will just play the wounded lamb for a nationwide audience, 1/3rd of which will lap it up.
Trials are about the facts tho and as they come out frump can’t really attack the facts. He can’t speak out during the trial so I’m not sure what you guys think he’s gonna even be able to do much less get away with.
The place where it’ll matter is in the breakdowns by pundits. It will be very hard for the right wing machine to build viable defense talking points when the facts are so clear.
I hope you’re right.
Their defense is already established. It’s a “witch hunt”, “corruption”, “politically motivated”. Delegitimizing the current authority, where this kind of act is deemed illegal, is the goal. We have too many “uneducated” people, looking for “love”, in this country.
True, but u saw him lose a lot of support during the Jan 6th trials as they simply played the videos from that day. The trial will be largely the same. Evidence presented, cut and dry and there’s no ability for the right wing news cycle to spin this as not a crime.
For me it will be 1/3 Justice porn and 2/3 I’m living through history titillation.
Yeah. While I absolutely have a bias and want to see this fucker convicted, I feel like no matter what, it’s going to have at least one “Where were you when…” moment.
Almost every generation has a couple. Where were you when JFK was shot? When the Challenger exploded? During 9/11? When Columbia burned up?
I mean, obviously, reading the verdict is going to be there, but I feel like there’s going to be some real courtroom horseshit / ooohhhh shiiit moments too.
I was alive for the Columbia explosion, 9/11, the Challenger explosion, and Reagan’s attempted assassination. I saw them all as highlight reels on TV hours after the facts. I saw OJ’s glove escapade on the evening news. I expect there to be a Trump trial moment like that, but I don’t need to see it live, and I definitely don’t need to sit through hour after hour of courtroom procedure waiting to see that one moment.
I’m glad the trial will be recorded for posterity. That seems like the best way to answer claims of shenanigans in any trial. Actually watching the trial, all the way through, seems a little too much like watching Nascar hoping to see a big crash.
seems a little too much like watching Nascar hoping to see a big crash.
NASCAR is not just about watching cars going around in a circle waiting for a crash.
It’s “a day at the beach” for those who don’t have an ocean nearby. Tailgate parties and beautiful people dressed for the occasion. A reason to relax and enjoy.
Username checks out.
Username checks out.
In case you meant that as a slight, I live on one of the coasts, and have never been to a NASCAR event.
Not a slight, it was a mademesmile perspective. Something a Cosmic Cleric might say when someone belittles something they don’t fully understand. I’ve never been to one either but the comment made me want to go to there.
Wouldn’t it be grand if we could end it on a high note, and stop thinking “I’m living through history” every 1-3 years?
Oh, to know boredom.
I don’t know about that. An awful lot of conservatives are bending over backwards to explain why Trump was justified in breaking the law multiple times. They certainly do care, and some people have even died over it. Remember the guy who tried to go after the FBIfield office in Cincinnati, OH?
I’ve heard some arguments saying that if Trump “knew” the election was rigged, he had a moral imperative to do whatever was necessary to maintain the union. The fact that the charges exist at all is proof of conspiracy, and the trial is just a parade. While I don’t agree, it’s hard to get thru to people that don’t agree on the same objective reality.
Turns out if you lie often enough and about something and just keep repeating it, people will start to believe it.
There’s unfortunately, also some evidence to the contrary that he privately knew he lost and did all this crap anyway.
Nevermind the phone call where he asked the Georgia secretary of state to find him 11,780 votes. But, if that’s not enough to convince people he’s making shit up, nothing will convince them.
Unfortunately, I’m dumb at psychology, and I have no idea how you would deprogram these people.
For groups like this reprogramming usually starts with facing the wall.
What does “facing the wall” mean?
It’s like when the last thing a mosquito sees is it’s ass when it hits your windshield.
firing squad presumably
The argument that someone saying they “knew” something, without being able to provide a shred of evidence to support the claim, is somehow direct proof of said claim is, flat out, retarded. They’re not logicians.
I was going to say that the conspiracy theorists would watch it simply to figure out all the ways this is a Jewish-space-laser-controlled judge presiding over an adrenochrome -addicted jury, with all the officers of the court being lizardmen in humanskin.
Then I realized that was simply too much effort for them; they’ll just get their conspiracies from Fox and Tucker, and Joe Rogan as usual.
You know, I’m getting real tired of you goyim knowing about our laser.
Tis a joke but I am actually jew
This is what I should have said to begin with
Everyone likes justice porn in America. The OJ trial was one of the most watched TV events in history at the time.
Well it’s about to be topped.
I wont be participating. wake me up when the criminal is behind bars. everything else is posturing.
Judicial proceedings is anything but posturing.
“Posturing”!? You know words have meaning, right…?
People who think the legal process is just postering sound very similar to Trumpers to me.
Yeah I mean I was talking about the broadcasts not the legal process but ok buddy whatever you say idc
Let me say the obvious part: Trump’s cult has already intimidated lawmakers, witnesses, prosecutors, civil servants and judges. They decried this as a witch hunt before they even knew the facts! They stormed the Capitol to keep trump in power! They are talking about jailing his political opponents and instituting a genuine dictatorship! This must be open to all and published as it happens…
There’s a 50/50 chance you’ll be asleep for a loooooong time.
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I’m pretty sure a trial to put someone behind bars is the opposite of posturing.
Some will tune in thinking Trump is going to outclass all the lawyers and indulge in some Wrestlemania style verbal theatrics, but they’ll get bored when they just see an empty old man twiddling his thumbs for hours straight.
Never thought an empty old man, twiddling his thumbs, would draw me in more than the countless content streaming services have to offer, but here we are.
Fuck ‘em.
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I like flying squids.
Do you usually swirl your appendages, or do you flap them?
Try a clown, expect a circus
Trump is a clown but he won’t be defending himself. I do expect some rather asinine conclusions and completely non-credible testimony from the defense but much like the lawyers that have abandoned Trump in the past, his attorneys have limits. They’re not nearly as “untouchable” as Trump has been and the kind of arguments Trump would want to make will land them in jail.
I think the success of this trial will hinge on the evidence collected AND the professionalism of those involved in the case. The MAGAts won’t watch or won’t believe a single shred of evidence. This is for the benefit of those who still know how to form a rational thought.
The MAGAts won’t watch or won’t believe a single shred of evidence.
I highly doubt that one actually. It’s going to be a political circus, and they’re all about that. I wouldn’t be surprised if they weave every single movement, twitch, fart, or whisper he does into part of their lunatic conspiracy theory ecosystem, post about it on shitter as memes, or both.
They will only see the clips that Faux News chooses to show them. Why watch a boring trial when you can tune in to your favorite talking head show to be told how you feel about the whole situation? You know, like a true free thinker!
Spot on!
“Trump is a clown but he won’t be defending himself”
When you’re on a budget, the emotional support clowns start looking real affordable and appealing
I am not going to watch any of that.
When he was on the NPR news cycle five times a day I started yelling and cursing uncontrollably to the point where I was diving at the radio to turn it off or change the station so that I would not freak the fuck out.
It doesn’t matter where Trump is. I don’t want to be there. It is a defilement to view him.
It doesn’t matter where Trump is. I don’t want to be there. It is a defilement to view him.
I feel you.
I think him in a courtroom will be different, perhaps startlingly so. He won’t be able to just say whatever he wants, he’ll have to actually try to make a logical coherent case. Which, being impossible for him personally, means that I think we will not hear much from him. His legal team will do most of the talking, if he has any brains at all.
if he has any brains at all.
Important caveat. We may hear a lot from him after all!
I get it. I always try to tune in for these kinds of things though, the somewhat boring dense slow trials, because I want to be better informed to counteract any right wing rhetoric I encounter. In particular IRL.
plus it’s more mundane factual shit so I’m here for that, but if he treats it like the debates idk if I could all the interrupting to make no point just to get sound bites and derail the other person.
Me either. However, I look forward to Legal Eagle breaking down the highlights.
He won’t be at the center of the action. He’ll be sitting and shutting up and letting his lawyers talk for him. And of course trying not to look guilty when the prosecution details his crimes.
I too have avoided listening or watching him. This might be a really different thing.
it’s crazy that trump has basically trained us all to be able to understand him because he’s basically incoherent. in speeches he alternates between pre-written sections that he is clearly struggling to read, and completely thoughtless ad-libs like “many people are saying this” which he will say about literally anything. and in more spontaneous formats he’s just all over the fucking place, he just leaves a trail of sentence fragments behind him until he’s decided he’s talked for an appropriate amount of time. and his voice, i mean, he sounds like mark hamill’s joker after dental anesthesia. they should play his speeches on speakers mounted to the underside of cargo ships to repel whales
mark hamill’s joker after dental anesthesia
Wow, is that ever accurate.
they should play his speeches on speakers mounted to the underside of cargo ships to repel whales
You should consider a career in comedy.
Practice stoicism my friend. Ppl on the left freaking out is exactly what they want. Treat trump and the gop the same way you treat clowns…laugh at them.
It’s the thing they fear the most…loss of narrative.Best I can do is exude the overwhelming smugness of a 17th century Scottish trader who just gonvinced some Englishmen to buy goods for way over market price.
Eh .little wins
Clowns like gacy maybe. I can’t even laugh anymore
Oh fuck yes.
Can we say the obvious for a second?
Good decision. Everyone needs to be able to see this. It’s important, especially in this climate.
This should be the top comment
It is
lol it was 0 points when I said that.
This is cool as Biden continues out his communist regime. Let the down votes flow on behalf of CNN because half of you can’t see the other picture. Trump sucks I see that. But fuck y’all love these grocery prices. And diesel prices cause I can’t work without it. My 3 kids like to eat too and in this budget we can’t even afford that.
These prices were coming whoever was in the White House. That’s the result of the economy crashing under the former guy.
Why do you have a diesel vehicle anyway? My wife and I have one of the most fuel efficient vehicles on the road. 11 gallon tank, and gets over 30 mpg.
I laugh at all of the dumbasses driving around in Ford F150s and Dodge Rams guzzling expensive dinosaur juice. Those guys are morons, paying the “dumb boy tax”, and I’m sure they complain about it, too. 🤷
A Honda Civic can’t tow a trailer of machinery, or haul material to a job
Sure, but there are vehicles between a Civic and a F-350. Small trucks like the Colorado come to mind, I have an Avalanche, but I don’t use it with its towing capacity ever. The last time I did was a year and a half ago. It would have cost me much less to rent one than the extra fuel it uses. Most people who have big trucks only use their capacity once every few years or never at all. Often times a crossover works better than a truck, as you can fit 2 x 4s, tools, and stuff in the hatch and use its towing capacity to haul a small trailer when you need it. It’s not hauling a backhoe to the job site, but how many backhoes do you need?
Biden? Communist? LMFAO.
But fuck y’all love these grocery prices.
No one “loves” the prices of anything. But that’s largely due to Coronavirus, the disease that Trump said at least 38 times would “disappear” and denied for months on end while it continued to spread into a pandemic.
And low interest rates that his cronies took advantage of to get rich during a crisis.
What does this heat have to do with it?
it will keep people indoors
What’s best is everyone will see the evidence.
Not really. The people who need to see and believe the evidence will never see it and will deny that it is anything but lies.
Something this important, we all need to witness, no matter which way the verdict goes.
Except the people that need to watch it are going to refuse and call it corruption. And still have extremely strong, unmoveable, opinions about it.
Same as the Jan 6th hearing
They’ll get their out of context and misleading soundbites from the right wind media overlords, which will only reinforce their blind faith in their lord and savior trump.
Oh that’s a good point though.
On one hand the media won’t be able to resist actually covering the trial but on the other hand if they do that they’ll be informing their viewership, and that can’t happen.
Except the people that need to watch it are going to refuse and call it corruption.
And that, even if it’s true or not, doesn’t really matter.
The point is, this is the first time one of our leaders has been put on trial, it’s something that all the people of the nation need to witness, regardless of its effect, or outcome. We can’t just be told the outcome, we need to see it with our own eyes.
Honestly? I really wish it wasn’t.
Record it and even provide the full unedited copies at a later date (maybe blur some people’s faces). But there is zero reason to live stream this and turn it into even more of a media circus where the usual suspects will mug for the camera.
Yes, releasing the footage at a later date means “They edited it. That is not what our god emperor said!”. But they are going to do the same “fake news” screeching for a live stream too.
Honestly, I’m torn. I see your point but on the other hand, Trump can’t come out after each session and claim the trial is rigged. I know most MAGA don’t care about evidence but the evidence is concrete or they never would have indicated them… The jury will never be on camera, and I’m sure they’ll be sequestered do to the high profile natural of the case.
He will 100% come out and claim everything is rigged. He is already doing that.
Truth and reality don’t matter to the magats.
But will the revolution?
