As a warehouse worker in the US, I say it doesn’t matter since Labor Day has gradually become “Work normal hours but earn 1.5x pay for it day”.
That’s 50% better than a normal day!
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My wife is a nurse and has pretty much the same deal. Which is a mixed blessing
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I motion that we postpone this discussion until after the upcoming US Labor Day has passed.
*sigh* Someone has to say that every labor day. When are we going to be able to talk about this?
After Labor Day
Second.
No, it’s the 4th this year
Would you rather have a day off before working all summer, or a day off after working all summer.
I’d rather have it after.
You get the day off before too. It’s Memorial Day.
Memorial Day is end of May, OP suggested 1 May.
It’s the day before/that summer starts. Your post was about bookending summer.
No, we don’t know why this date was chosen and don’t much care. Memorial Day is the symbolic start of summer fun and Labor Day is the symbolic end. It’s a great bookmark for kids summer vacation (even if many schools start earlier now) for anyone with a cottage, or even scheduling a vacation.
Having a holiday as the “last hurrah” of summer is more important than which date it falls on. Plus we get all the conservatives on our side by saying May 1 is not ‘murican, it’s international, even commie
Edit: I never knew May 1 had an American origin, nor that the first Monday in September was chosen for convenient timing of holidays
While we’re at it, can we change the name to “No Labor Day?” 🤔
Always seemed weird to me that it’s one of the few days you get a day off, but it’s named like it’s the only day labor is done.
It’s named for the Labor movement. maybe you’re joking and I’m just dense but… yeah.
“Beginning in the late 19th century, as the trade union and labor movements grew, diverse groups of trade unionists chose a variety of days on which to celebrate labor. In the United States, a September holiday called Labor Day was first proposed in the early 1880s.”
maybe you’re joking and I’m just dense
Can I call you Osmium? :P
Sure, I’ll call you dickhead.
No, just like soccer is not called football here. Sometimes things are different in other places.
Unacceptable. Different thing bad!
For the last time. That other thing is: Hand. Egg.
Nope. But we should make Worker’s Day a federal holiday on May 1st
May Day is already a holiday isn’t it?
It’s celebrated by some, but it’s not a federal holiday.
No, that’s too close to Memorial Day. And without Labor Day being in September the gap between July 4th and Thanksgiving is too wide to not have a holiday where the majority of workers get time off from work
It’s not just about time off or celebrating. It’s more about sales, special events, traveling, eating out, getting gas, airline tickets, hotel rooms, etc, etc. In other words, stimulating the economy on a regular basis.
There’s been proposals that 9/11 become a federal holiday. That would probably fill the gap between Labor Day and Veterans Day. Speaking of Veterans Day, it’s about two weeks before Thanksgiving, yet both are federal holidays. May 1st wouldn’t be too close to Memorial Day by comparison.
That’s a terrible idea. Who thinks the best way to honor those killed is to make it a holiday?
What exactly do you think Memorial Day is? Heck it’s even an aspect of Labor Day.
People who died for a cause, defending their country. There’s a bit of a difference to those who unexpectedly died in an terrorist attack. A holiday honoring victims? I don’t really get it.
Right, so then what’s your take on Memorial Day?
Some “holidays” are days of honor and remembrance, not celebration the way Independence Day (July 4th) is. Veteran’s Day honors those who signed their name on the line saying they’d lay down their lives in defense of the country. It’s not a celebration, per se, but an honor.
I absolutely disagree with making 9/11 a holiday.
It’s time to get the fuck over 9/11
In Italy we have Liberation day on April 25th and labor day on 1st May and nobody ever complained. You celebrate certain days in specific dates for a reason, not because they fit nicely with other holidays
A lot of American systems are very broken, including our vacation opportunities from work. We get significantly less paid time off compared to most European countries and it can be nice to have them spread out so that there is a chance you get the day off (not all companies here recognize things like labor day anyway).
To all the confused former British colonies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workers’_Day#/media/File:Observance_of_International_Workers’_Day_RGBY.svg
Edit: Anyone know what’s from with the formatting and that the link doesn’t read the whole URL?
Kinda conflicts with May Day, doesn’t it?
You better don’t conflict with Mayday…
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No. The world shouldn’t be one homogeneous blob.
As it surely would be if the US had Labor Day on May 1st.
Its hyperbole, and a more of a death by a thousand paper cuts. I can go to every large western city (and many non-western ones) in the world and find McDonalds.
I think thats atrocious.
I was in Sweden for work some time ago, and we walked past a McDonald’s advertisement. It was for a Mexican Burger.
My boss was Japanese, so we were on our way to a sushi restaurant.
Like honestly, why even travel? (Yes I know history and museums and whatnot, but still.)
Why not have two holidays? ‘Labor day’ like we do now on the first Monday in September AND ‘Labour day’ on May 1 like the rest of the world. Workers deserve at least two holidays dedicated to them.
Like May 1? How about April 28?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers’_Memorial_Day
Celebrate “us labor day” like normal and then “international labor day” in May. Easy.
No one wants fewer days off anyway. What could be more in the spirit of celebrating workers?
We’ve had one, yes. What about second labor day? -Pippin
Why does it matter when different countries have different holidays?
I prefer it on a Monday so that I get a long weekend. If it’s a specific date all of the time, then if get a random day off in the middle of the week instead which I don’t care about. I always prefer to extend my weekend instead.
I actually really dislike that Thanksgiving in the US is always on Thursday. It means I can’t travel very far to see family because I always work the day immediately before and after Thanksgiving. So I just have a random day off in the middle of the week.
That leaves a huge gap in holidays between July 4th and Thanksgiving. No thanks.
It’s really so engrained in the culture it would have to be replaced by end-of-the-summer-cookout-day.
Would be great if we could just take off all of August like Europe does.
True story.
I am alright, it is pretty much the last day of the year you have shorts temperatures which if nothing else is a reminder of that fact. Maybe have two days off instead?
it is pretty much the last day of the year you have shorts temperatures
I wish, cuz this is getting old.
