Elon has responded to the criticism and is increasing the limits to a whopping:
Verified accounts: 8000 posts/day
Unverified accounts: 800 posts/day
New unverified accounts: 400 posts/day
In fairness, most Twitter users do need to touch grass…
When you do the right thing for the wrong reason…
If you have 800 posts available and you read a post every 10 seconds, then you can only spend 2,2 hours per day on the site before you can’t see new posts.
Twitter basically forces its users to verify their accounts to use the site in a normal way. That will definitly backfire.
That is so cool. Elon is just trying to help.
Who reads more than 800 posts every day? I only ever get on twitter for juice drama every few months
I could probably scroll 600-800 replies on like 5 sports free agency drama tweets. It counts just scrolling by a reply or post against your limit.
Replies count as well? This is insane.
Elon himself has spammed me numerous times when scrolling down reading other tweets to subscribe to him. 800 is nothing. Think about those large mega threads on reddit for sporting events or whatever. You would 1000s of posts.
I mean scroll down the replies of a big tweet and you’d easily see 100 or 200 tweets according to Elon’s “view” system. Pretty much any tweet loading counts as a view to Twitter.
Every tweet you scroll past counts as a read tweet. That probably cuts down the number you can actually read by quite a lot.
So a subscription is only 10x more valuable than a non-paying leech?
It’s funny because if he’s trying to reduce costs, letting people upload 2 hour videos probably costs far more than having your website be accessible to people not logged in LMAO
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Text feed are the lightest weight most cachable thing you can serve. The costliest part of the text component is the mixer that ranks the content. The companies scraping them don’t care about the ranking they just want bulk tweets. That’s what the API is for. Elon charged them insane rates so they all went off the API that cost Twitter a tiny fraction to serve and instead the API consumers switched to crawling the website instead, which costs Twitter orders of magnitude more, but is free for scrapers. Elon is indeed a stable genius.
Holy shit, I hadn’t stopped to realize your point there!!! Of course any AI scrapers would just start bit crawler accounts, if any of them weren’t already doing that as well. Along with any other info scrapers out there - I can only think of the one example tbh
I had to look this up, couldn’t believe it. I’ve been pretty indifferent to Musk and Twitter…cause I’ve been always indifferent to Twitter, but this is crazy. As an example, my city’s police and bus services and others all use Twitter to send updates out. And I’m sure it’s the same for most places. And now they’ve essentially lost the ability to mass communicate with people, because they need to be able to reach everyone not just those with an account.
I used Twitter for all my local updates - from what’s happening at city hall to live traffic and weather updates.
What’s up with CEO’s messing with social media companies. Huffman and Musk seem to enjoy ruining good things :(
It’s a symptom of the end of cheap money. It’s fine to not turn a profit when the economy is bullish and there’s money sloshing around everywhere, but at some stage you have to justify your existence, especially when advertisers stop buying ads, which has been the case for a while
What’s up with CEO’s messing with social media companies
I have some theories but they all boil down to: They openly despise us commoners. Maybe this will prompt public services to take better care of their websites. It would be a welcoming change.
Yeah I don’t understand it.
I’m sure something else will come along, the public service sphere of Twitter is too important. What else can they do? Go back to sending out press statements and breaking news on the radio or TV? Something will come along and fill that gap.
My city sends text alerts, but even with that I worry about the elderly people that don’t have cell phones.
Kinda stupid that a local government funded institution relies on a service from a private company to send out notifications
The US National Weather Service’s local offices (which each have their own Twitter handle) post Twitter updates for every watch and warning (thunderstorm, tornado, hurricane, you name it) they send out. Imagine if you couldn’t receive those updates or they couldn’t post them.
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The problem is with your city’s public servants. Relying on something like Twitter was a huge mistake.
Until recently it was a great way to reach people in a way you can’t really do with any other platform.
But this day and age breaking TV broadcast doesn’t work for anyone under the age of 55 or so
Relying on a single service was a huge mistake. You can always diversify.
Relying on a single service was a huge mistake. You can always diversify.
Sure, that’s easy to say. But name another free, publicly available, instant mass message delivery system they could also use?
Telegram, RSS, Email…
Take your pick
Why’d you get downvoted when those are good alternatives?
All require the audience to be signed up. Twitter allowed users to broadcast. But yes, they are certainly functional alternatives.
Usenet? It’s is still there, despite google’s attempts to absorb it.
Yeah exactly, and Twitter was the first of its kind. It was the platform to introduce @tagging usernames, hashtags, micro blogging and was very accessible. There are lots of other social media platforms, but none of them are like twitter with exception now of Mastodon, but even mastodon has a small barrier, twitter you visit an url and have access to all the content on that account immediately, just by visiting an url. This is fundamentally why it was adopted along side Facebook and not to replace it. It had a function, still does really, even tho it’s on fire.
Don’t you want users to be on the platform as long as possible to maximize ad revenue? If this was just to force people to pay for verification, why wouldn’t they make that tier unlimited? I honestly can’t even believe this is real.
Has he finally go completely insane? It feels like he wants to kill the platform for some reason
How true is the LLM data scraping threat?
Meta has shown that getting huge amounts of training data can lead to great results with a model that’s much simpler than what openAI uses and it looks like they are taking a more open approach to LLMs because of that. Twitter has shitloads of possible training data, but it’s Twitter so that data isn’t great.
Elon is known to be afraid of AGIs becoming hostile, so that explains the decision.
I don’t think it’ll slow down AI development too much. There are new Llama-based models coming out every month that are better than the previous ones.
Reddit is a much better source of data and if they don’t want to lose SEO, their data can still be gathered by scraping even after the API changes take effect.
It’s not. He’s probably lying to save face and just forgot to pay his bills.
Who knows. One thing for sure is that this is just one more thing he pulled out of his ass without any backing
So people now can’t view Twitter without logging in, but once people are logged in, Twitter only lets them look at a limited number of tweets.
I’m not sure what sense there is for a social media company to keep telling consumers to stop consuming content. Has the Twitter infrastructure become that fragile? Are they running out of tweets? Whatever they are smoking at Twitter HQ they might want to give it a rest.
Something tells me he is exempt from the limit, otherwise he’d hit it by 8am
What a 🤡
Ahh yes, killing your social media by limiting your request per user at a day. Genius. I know that data scrapping is a problem in any social media platform
