Maybe because of DSA?
DMA actually.
Not even going down that track, I’ve been messing with Linux for 15yr and happy to say about 2yr ago switched to Linux mint daily driver and not going back. Can do everything I need to:
Work (teams, prospect mail for Outlook, zoom, etc)
Gaming (Steam and Proton make playing 95% games a reality and actually works great surprisingly)
Music Production (Bitwig - truly awesome DAW very comparable to Ableton live - no BS actually is a TRUE contender and great and stable DAW, by far the best ever used in Linux)
Windows 11 can suck it
I tried to but it’s still too janky for my taste. Every bigger update breaks something (I am lucky if it doesn’t break the OS as a whole which happened few times). For gaming I have issues with alt-tabbing stuff that’s completely janky for ages and I find that function crucial to consider it as a gaming OS.
This is good. But they need to target google and chrome next.
Is it just me, or does the EU legislators actually care about their citizens?
Any EU citizens that can confirm?
It’s a mixture… forcing companies into roaming agreements, mandating USB C, CCS2, stuff like that.
Then they propose laws to effectively ban end to end encryption.
Yes, but on the other hand, sometimes too much, with all the spying laws they wan to push every semester.
The huge difference between FTC and EC in terms of the mandate of their operation. Whereas the Sherman Law and FTC are operating with aim to protect customers’ rights or something like that, EC anti-monopoly law is oriented just on that: fighting anti-competitive behaviour. The problem is IMHO that “customer rights” is so flexible term, that (with good support in the campaign contributions, I am sure) it is easy to persuade FTC that almost anything you do is perfectly nice. EC’s anti-monopoly mandate is on the other hand rather strict and inflexible.
Especially when you hire a former Verizon lawyer as head of the FTC, and they do their best to dismantle it from the inside, and then the next person you hire needs to spend a bunch of their time rebuilding what was torn down.
In a case like this, I think they’re mainly worried that the dominance of [insert company] from [insert country] is getting too big.
But they was slapping apple for usb C too. They’re doing something right over there.
The ratio of helpful/shit behavior is not great, but we do have both.
Hard to say but in the end my life quality is waaaaaay better after EU accession.
EU does seem to be on the forefront when it comes to user rights. It’s always nice to see them not just grazing over the issues
Username checks out with that pun.
It’s not perfect by any means, but I’m glad to have it and can’t think of any other political organisation doing more “good”.
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microsoft ad, remove
Why do you call every post about Big Tech an ad?
Have a look at the sub frontpage. “Bad” ads still give these companies visibility and shadow competitors
The point is to get a view of all tech-related news as a whole, if you don’t want these then go join the specific topic’s (semiconductors, linux, manufacturing, privacy, etc) sub
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Thats a good point, id never heard of microsoft before this post
Install Linux. Problem solved
Problem replaced*
Yes, replaced by a solution
Ok now edit something in word, adobe, old cad programs, etc.
I like linux, but it will never be a main driver. Too much stuff doesn’t work and you need to tinker with it to make it work a lot of the time.
These days Linux works out of the box with most hardware (even Nvidia hardware is getting better, less bad boy)
Word? Done. Open office. Want it online? Use google drive or install only office for open source.
Adobe Photoshop? Yeah that is one dick company but fine. setup windows in a virtualbox on a separate desktop.
With a solution
I started clapping with a smile and then I said, good for eu but I live in canada lol.
now do the rest of the world.
Too late. I work with Microsoft professionally, but I’m about to install Linux Mint privately.
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What a problem to have when your engineering team’s skill set are vendor locked. Not that I’m familiar with autodesk or why you absolutely have to use it, but your engineers could perhaps learn to use blender and use a Linux desktop environment and potentially save a lot of money in licenses and subscriptions.
If it’s 3dsMax yes you can switch over, if Blender doesn’t suffice there’s Houdini and many many 3d graphics studios are in fact Linux shops – Linux inherited that particular slice of the market from IRIX. Some seats will still be on windows or more likely Mac because ZBrush, AfterEffects and generally Adobe. If you’re using Maya there’s no issue in the first place as the thing runs on Linux.
If it’s AutoCAD, though, tough fucking luck. Once upon a time there was Siemens NX but they pulled Linux support and free CAD/CAM is nowhere close to production ready.
And, no, retraining people generally is usually not cheaper than paying license fees, by a long shot. Maybe if you pay out of your nose for Houdini but actually only need Blender but who does that in the first place.
And, no, retraining people generally is usually not cheaper than paying license fees, by a long shot.
Are you speaking of just short-term, or long-term as well?
Long-term for the likes of Hollywood contract studios is “till the end of the production” so, yes. It’s also insanity to switch software while a project is ongoing so you’d have to shut down the studio and then start it up again at which point they’d likely be bankrupt. They’re not even upgrading software versions.
Now if you’re the likes of Siemens or Airbus who more or less on a whim write their own CAD/CAM packages sure it pays off to re-train your engineers, using a software that was tailor-made for what they need to do was the objective in the first place, increasing their productivity. But you won’t make a Maya artist more productive by sitting them in front of Blender. It’s more like switching between vi and emacs: Both are very capable and have steep learning curves due to their sheer power and productivity focus (and one of each causes RSI. To wit, Maya doesn’t have right-click select).
So if I’m to believe you then no one should ever retrain for any better products ever, because it’s too cost prohibitive?
That we should use a static set in cement set of products until the end of time, even if a better ones come out that require training?
Nah there’s definitely another option and that’s to abolish capitalism.
Did you know that with the automation tech from 10 years ago the world could already have 70% unemployed and yet produce western middle-class living standards for absolutely everyone? The reason it’s not done is not that investing in automation doesn’t have a gigantic ROI, it’s that it’s too long-term for capital to care. Also we don’t want that kind of power in the hands of capitalists anyway but that’s another story. The Diamond Age it’s called, I think.
Right, but like, they work with Microsoft professionally, but run Linux personally.
Im a new convert, but it’s weird to me how people try and explain how this thing, that currently exists, is somehow a bad choice. Like I don’t know, maybe I do or do not wind up with more of my professional stuff being on my Linux box, but I don’t really care. It doesn’t bother me that Microsoft exists, I’m just happy Linux does. Microsoft can do whatever the hell it wants.
Linux ate Microsoft’s lunch in the server space. Sometimes the winds shift.
Business decisions are almost always influenced by the personal preferences of people in charge. While OP probably can’t change the existing infrastructure right now, when the infrastructure is eventually changed, OP’s pro-Linux input could make a big difference.
Linux needs to do something that no one else is doing well.
It can’t even do the things that others already do well, much less beyond that.
I use Fedora with KDE, and Steam/ Bottles apps to run the games, and that works great.
Here we go again, MS already lost a US federal lawsuit for the same thing but with Internet Explorer.
Yeah I definitely remember that in the news as a teenager…and then I remember everybody kinda shrugged their shoulders and forgot. And now Bill Gates = zoomer jesus after 20 years of PR work to turn his image around.
Somehow, everybody forgot all the dumpster-diving Gates did to “build” Microsoft in the first place.
Crazy to think that Commodore’s BASIC was coded by Bill Gates, though. I was recently reading a programming article he wrote in Compute! magazine back in 1984, when MS ascendance was anything but guaranteed.
Sadly, they didn’t lose. They almost lost, appealed and ended up with a settlement which didn’t require removing IE from Windows or prevent tying other software to windows.
On November 2, 2001, the DOJ reached an agreement with Microsoft to settle the case. The proposed settlement required Microsoft to share its application programming interfaces with third-party companies and appoint a panel of three people who would have full access to Microsoft’s systems, records, and source code for five years in order to ensure compliance.[29] However, the DOJ did not require Microsoft to change any of its code nor did it prevent Microsoft from tying other software with Windows in the future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp
Ah damn! I missed out as I am using Pop OS. SWORRY!!
Don’t worry. They make Edge for Linux too.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/2/22759123/microsoft-edge-linux-stable-channel
Willingly using Edge on Linux to browse the internet should be classified as a mental disorder.
I do so. When you start the browser it’s bloated of course, but you can customize it and remove almost everything you don’t like. The browser itself has a lot of its own neat features, so it’s not really just a reskin of chromium. I am tired of pretending it’s only bad.
Yeah, no. That is just wrong. That is akin to saying that IE 6 really was awesome. Get help
Why use proprietary software when we have alternative Free Software that works just as well?
A warcrime
Yup.
I think it’s called Stockholm syndrome.
Which is useful for using the Xbox Cloud thing on Linux.
Also, it works as the one Chromium based browser I occasionally need for sites built by idiots.
Who in the everlasting fuck would for what Jesus on a pogostick reason install edge on Linux?
That is just sick
That is like walking in on a church mass with “the exorcist 2973” blasting from your mobile phone
I’m sure Microsoft had it out there for someone but again… Who…?
I feel like I need to shower
Here I am, your case study. Installed Edge on my Linux box because at the time using Edge was the only way to access their chatGPT bot for free, through Bing Chat. The good thing is that it was just another browser, so not annoying pop-ups or anything. Since I moved to openai I’ve never used Edge again, and I actually forgot about it until I saw this comment.
Yeah I’m mostly “joking” about it, if you have a reason you have a reason, bit it does sound wrong somehow.
No worries, I know what you mean. Felt weird for me at the time as well!
Cute.
Linux isn’t an OS, but you GNU that.
I think you meant, GNU+Linux yes? lol
No.
Lol
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Windows 11 continued this trend, with search still forcing users into Edge and a new dedicated widgets area that also ignores the default browser setting.
Microsoft’s Teams changes are designed to avoid further antitrust scrutiny, after the European Commission opened a formal antitrust investigation into Microsoft’s bundling of its Teams software with the Office productivity suite in July.
The EU’s investigation was sparked by a complaint from rival Slack, which alleged that Microsoft had “illegally tied” its Microsoft Teams product to Office and is “force installing it for millions, blocking its removal, and hiding the true cost to enterprise customers.”
Microsoft initially made it difficult to switch default browsers in Windows 11, triggering complaints from rivals before the company eventually backed down.
It’s hard to imagine that Microsoft is making these Windows 11 changes specifically in EU countries out of choice, though.
Platforms like Windows will be required to meet a slew of interoperability and competition rules, including allowing users “to easily un-install pre-installed apps or change default settings on operating systems, virtual assistants, or web browsers that steer them to the products and services of the gatekeeper and provide choice screens for key services.”
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“Microsoft forced to stop forcing Windows 11 users into Edge in EU countries”, would be a more descriptive title.
This. Current title is misleading.
But the multinational hyper-conglomerates are our friends and the most efficient use of capital!
Can they do the same for Google recommending Chrome?
Yes, they are doing both. The list of entities covered by the DMA dropped today.
At least google sites recommending Chrome are free to use. Microsoft is forcing is it’s useless browser to an audience via an OS. Which they paid for. Two huge no-no’s.
MS should just quit the facade and make it free.
I mean it more or less already is. I’m running an unregistered W10 Pro and the “activate license” thing only comes up occasionally.
I heard from an acquaintance of mine that works for MS that they really don’t care if you pay for their software. As long as you’re using it, they know you’re locked into their environment.
Hell, you can download an install ISO off their website directly, and you can install and run it without a license key.
Yeah I think that much is really apparent. I use AtlasOS when I absolutely need to use Windows.
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Nah thanks, we’re lucky to be mostly secular.
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You can have both. For instance Denmark is among the least religious countries in the world, and at the same time among of the most blessed.
That’s a fine arrangement we’ve got IMO.
Most blessed how? It sucks here.
it sucks more everywhere else
Most blessed how?
High living standard, low on threats like naturtal disasters and plenty food including Bacon and Beer. Low crime, high on all kinds of life quality/satisfaction indexes that I know of, among the lowest on corruption and poverty. One of the highest ranking on democracy and freedom of speech.
It sucks here.
Maybe for you, for the majority obviously not.
People only like it here because they are mindless drones that blindly worship the system and hold the opinions that the government wants them to. It’s lame.
Funny you are saying that, at a time where the government is more unpopular than it has been in a long time. It’s unpopular on both the left and right, and even among members of the government parties. Sorry if it offends, but you sound a bit like maybe you’re in a dark place. Or maybe you are just trolling IDK.
No, you are just living in unicorn and rainbow land. Denmark has a very close-minded and ignorant culture. People that have opinions that differ from the norm are labeled as “weird” or just simply cut off socially. Also, no matter what you say about the “government being unpopular”, Danes still blindly worship and defend ridiculous socialism and money-wasting policies in the name of environmentalism or the likes. Your response to my comments just goes to prove my point.
Microsoft Edge is the true religion
Meanwhile, they did this another nearly a decade while one of the first things the EU did was tell Microsoft to stop being assholes and forcing Internet Explorer on everyone.
It was already insane the EU had to RE-legislate phone makers not to be assholes with proprietary connectors, as this was already done 2 decades ago too.
