like, it’s caffeine and water and brown, who cares. i drink diet soda so it’s no calories, no sugar. versus the stereotype starbucks order, why is soda so demonized
the whole sort of basically woo stuff about oh there’s antioxidants there which give you a 3% lower risk of skin cancer after the age of 65 like come on that doesn’t count
Carbonated drinks are not good for your teeth. Even if they are of the zero sugar variant. The CO2 basically increases the acidity in the drink. They add a shit ton of sweetener or sugar to hide the sour taste. Drinking sodas right after brushing your teeth just negates the positive effects toothpaste will have on your teeth. Even worse if you brush your teeth after drinking a soda. The acidity of a soda makes your teeth softer then when you brush you basically scrape the enamel away.
And yes this is also true for fruit juice like orange juice.
Water and co2 combine to make a weak acid. But that isn’t the acid that is the issue. The real issue is that soda makers like coke intentionally make the soda more acidic, to cover up the overly sweet. Without the added acid the soda would taste way too sweet.
The real issue tho is all the sugar they put in it. All the added calories and triglycerides is what kills you over time.
20oz of Coke contains like 15 tablespoons of sugar. Sweet coffee is healthier.
Edit: it’s teaspoons not tablespoons. I am wrong.
591.471 mL of Coke contains like 187.5 g of sugar. Sweet coffee is healthier.
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Actually I looked it up, a 20 US fluid ounce Cola has 14-18 [teaspoons] of sugar, 65 grams in normal units (for Coca Cola). So you completely botched it.
You’re right I did. My bad.
drinkin drinkin drinkin
drinkin coka coka cola
I can feel it Rollin right on down
a’Right on down my throat
You’re too modest.
soda is gross. coffee is excellent. that is all.
Counterpoint: Coffee is gross.
You’re onto something.
counter-counterpoint: adding white shit to coffee makes it gross.
You’re likely drinking bad coffee. It’s unfortunately the most accessible type.
I’m not drinking any coffee.
Coffee is healthier than soda if you take your coffee black. Black coffee is basically just water. Soda will have either sugar or artificial sweeteners in additional to sodium and other additives that make it a less healthy option.
Coffee with milk would still be better for you than soda, but you’ve got a good point about coffee with sweeteners essentially being just as bad as soda. Maybe the reason people treat coffee differently is because there is a healthy way to drink it and they incorrectly extrapolate that fact to any type of coffee (no, your coffee with eight sugars is not healthier than a can of Coke). Add in the fact that coffee is an acquired taste and now you’ve got one drink that only adults tend to drink (coffee) and one drink that kids love (soda) and people incorrectly assume that coffee is a more “grown up” thing to drink.
I think a coffee with 8 sugars is still WAY less sugar than a soda.
Yes and diet soda isn’t a perfect alternative. We’re still learning about the long term effects of artificial sweeteners. It’s a headache trying to navigate the options.
There are seltzer waters that have caffeine. I would guess those are comparable to black coffee in terms of healthiness.
I’m not saying you’re totally wrong to be suspicious but aspartame is the most scientifically examined substance in the history of the world, and so far its only damaging if you consume it undiluted in large quantities, which is also true for like vinegar or alcohol etc.
it would be equally true to suggest we don’t know the long term effects of exposure to mobile phones, even though they seem perfectly safe.
Absolutely true. Aspartame is generally regarded as safe under 40mg/kg and still researching long term effects doesn’t mean it’s dangerous, just that there may be more to discover. To be fair, science is constantly evolving and new discoveries are being made every day for… well, everything. Still, if you want to find the “healthiest” way to get your daily caffeine, there are options out there with minimal additives. Black coffee, tea, seltzers, even pills.
Sure been studied but anything with this much profits on the line is bound to be massively influenced by it, and the fact that its gotten to even possibly a carcinogen is enough of a sign to me.
Andsalso ‘most studied’ what? Wheres that number even from
it’s a quote from the FDA’s website.
I like my coffee like I like my women.
Hot, strong, and a little bitter.
Imported from South America in sacks…
I like my Coffee like I like my women: without someone else’s penis in it
People love their social norms. You wouldn’t believe the shit I got when I stopped eating breakfast. “Most important meal of the day!” I feel great fasting and don’t miss it at all. I’ll eat cereal for dinner. You have a fucking diet soda in the morning if you want.
Breakfast has always been my least important meal of the day… I’d rather have an extra 10 minutes in bed.
Coffee helps me poop.
red bull does the same for me lol
Fr, I know I already put too much sugar in my coffee (2 cubes for a full mug), but it’s nowhere near the equivalent of ~10 cubes per can in soda
Idk either, i usually start my days with a coffee, but have started some with a can of red bull as well. I think drinking anything other than water is pretty much never “the best thing” for you, so whether it’s coffee or soda, if you can work it into a otherwise healthy diet: you drink your soda I’m the morning, or coffee, or tea or whatsoever. We’re all adults here and shouldn’t be judging each other over such petty things anyway
People care? Do what you want to do, it’s your life. Have fun.
I think it’s fine. You do you.
Contrary to popular belief, diet soda is completely fine in moderation (like 20 cans per day limit), assuming your teeth/guts can handle the acidity. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCDqqVwYMa4
Coffee typically doesn’t have much or any sugar in it. It’s caffeine, water, milk. It has more caffeine than soda so it feels better to take it in the morning
You should spend some time learning how to vet sources. That’s not a reliable source.
I get that it’s a youtube video but Dr Mike knows his stuff. He goes through WHO’s recommendations and gives his practical input on the matter.
His background -
Cofounder of Renaissance Periodization, Dr. Mike Israetel holds a PhD in Sport Physiology from East Tennessee State University.
Currently a professor in the strength and hypertrophy masters program at Lehman College, Mike has taught several courses at multiple universities, including Nutrition for Public Health, Advanced Sports Nutrition and Exercise, and Nutrition and Behavior.
Originally from Moscow, Russia, he has worked as a consultant on sports nutrition to the U.S. Olympic Training Site in Johnson City, TN, and has been an invited speaker at numerous scientific and performance/health conferences worldwide, including nutritional seminars at the U.S. Olympic Training Center in Lake Placid, NY. Mike has coached numerous athletes and busy professionals in both diet and weight training, and is himself a competitive bodybuilder and professional Brazilian Jiu Jitsu grappler.
20 cans a day is moderation to you? Wow.
That’s the limit of safe intake.
They’re both completely wrong. Hot chocolate is the sacred beverage of the morning, the holy breakfast.
If you ain’t chugging the glass of water off your night stand as the very first drink of the morning, y’all are missing out.
After that, I have a NOS. Energy Drinks are the socially acceptable morning beverage that isn’t coffee. Or orange juice. Or milk.
After that, I have a NOS. Energy Drinks are the socially acceptable morning beverage that isn’t coffee.
That’s how I got my first and hopefully last kidney stone.
what is a NOS?
Brand of energy drink with packaging designed to resemble a nitrous oxide tank found in aftermarket automotive industry.
Everything anout energy drinks’ branding screams unhealthy. Even their advertising is focused on partying and extreme sports, it’s like they want you to increase your chances of dying young.
That being said, the actual evidence of energy drinks being particularly unhealthy is kind of mixed.
They are indisputably unhealthy on account of the amount of sugar they contain.
There are sugar-free variants.
The main risk of sugar isn’t the calories themselves, but rather their effect on our fullness perception. That is, the more sugar we eat, the harder it is to feel full after eating something. This in return cases a vicious cycle, one that can easily lead into obesity. I don’t know if that same issue can happen with sweeteners but I don’t generally trust anything that tricks our senses to such a degree. I don’t consider coffee the holy grail either, it’s just that its negative health effects have been tested for ages and are acceptable for its overall benefits. But that’s my own risk assessment, with only my health in the line.
It’s hard to get a good grip on the health neutrality of diet soda when the companies who make them have lied to us about sugar for decades. Maybe sweeteners are just their next lie, who knows. Much of the research done on sweeteners is funded by the ones who profit from it. The food industry have far more power than anyone should be comfortable with them having.
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