Everything: from 8am to 5pm I’m a steaming ball of anger that struggles to act polite while planning small acts of office terrorism.
I've got a lot of small pet peeves
like:
- A general lack of awareness in workplace safety practices
- People listening and sending audio messages when they could type instead
- People doing personal conference calls without a headset
- When they say “can you please grab that thing on my desk?” and their desk is a post-earthquake library scenario
and many others…
but the thing that bugs me the most is the general absence of people that “just do their job”.
There are a lot of people that do fuck-all and a lot of people that work their lives off and both of those groups expect you to walk at their pace. I’d like to meet more people in the middle.Having to relogin every two weeks with two-factor authentication. Everything is a MS Office document, in particular ridiculous spreadsheets. Everyone writes in acronyms that they assume everyone else knows. Even though there is always a lot of new staff, every email assumes everyone has been working there forever. (“It’s that time of the year again! You need to complete your GRD before week 5 of the COG and send it to the OSYN. Probably you are already an expert in completing these forms after so many years, but if you need instructions, please go to our IDRN and enter your ICRJ.”)
God I wish I only had to use MFA once every two weeks!
Seriously, anything through SSO requires me to do 2FA every time I log in.
We only have to use it when connecting from off-site.
Best way is to VPN in (requires MFA) then everything via VPN.
Some admin stuff has more strict checks, but the staff access is use the office network or use MFA.
Conditional access rules. If the admins cared it’s easy to apply
I have to login every 8 hours…I’d kill for every two weeks.
I have to re-auth with AWS every goddamn hour and enter a 2fa code for every. single. command. I run from the CLI. It drives me up a fucking wall even though I have it entirely scripted now. Another great example of how overly tight security leads to worse security as people try to bypass it.
I’m so sorry. I will hug the IT team now for only making me login every 2 weeks.
“We’re good people, and our goals are noble. Therefore, rules don’t apply to us.”
(Proceeds to break important laws)
“Faith-based” politics in a nutshell.
Mandatory webcam on calls/meetings. I get that it works for team building when half the developers are at home at any given time, but it exhausts me in meetings.
You sit there with nothing to say/do while you listen, constantly having to look forward and pay attention. Then your jaw starts to feel tense, but you can’t just open your mouth or move around too much.
Total torture for 60+ minute meetings. In my previous company we had the webcams always off, so I could relax or if it was only talking with no presentation even sit on my couch away from the PC.
I’m not sure how much of this pressure is from your company or self-driven, but I always keep my webcam on and I don’t give a shit about sitting straight or looking attentive or whatever. Half the time I’m fucking around with stuff in the background. Nobody has ever said anything about it.
Agreed. I also frequently turn mine off for a minute or two to grab tea or snacks or whatever. Nobody’s ever said anything. It’s on ~90% of the time.
why can’t you get comfy infront of the camera? Do they not allow you to join from a couch, and just record yourself?
What I always do is make sure I have something to fidget with off-screen. Either a little puzzle you can solve without looking or some activity I’ve done a hundred times before. I’ve spend quite a few online meetings doing my nails :)
Set up a small lock pick station just out of sight of the camera and then pick locks by physical feedback :)
The lights at my previous workplace. They were super bright, depressing, fluorescent lights, and even though we had windows with natural light coming thru, they’d have the overhead lights on at full blast. Not only was it a massive waste of electricity, the lights actually hurt my eyes, and made me hate my workplace. I loved the WFH phase during covid since I could just rely on natural light - and was so much more productive and in a better mood. Unfortunately they started calling us back into the office with 3 compulsory days, and that was the last straw which made me quit my job.
I’m living the inverse of your experience right now. Just started a new job that requires 3 days in the office after having worked several years fully remote. I sit next to a full wall-length window and yet am being battered by soul-crushing overhead fluorescents. Time to figure out where the controls to the lights near me live in the breaker. I hear the COO likes all of the lights on so he can “feel like there are more people in the office.” Bully for him.
literally everything. I hate the work, I hate the pay, and I absolutely hate the people. I’m quiting in December to travel the world for a while, which will be great, as long as they don’t kill me first
Death to America
People clipping their nails at their desk.
Oh wow this
lol this dae amirite
My co-workers.
Any microsoft application. Constant bugs, crashes and a tendency to break everything if you accidentally use them in any other way than microsoft intended.
Also, ads in a fucking operation system? I don’t see how anyone can find that acceptable.
I think MIUI was its pioneer. Even the settings app had ads.
At least they use that to sell you the hardware for cheap. Microsoft doesn’t provide anything of value like that. In fact, they charge people for the OS and then have the audacity to add ads.
Oh shit this makes me have flashbacks to the one - and only - time I got a phone with MIUI. I could not believe how bad that Android skin was. As in, even Samsung in their pre-One heyday could not even come close to this bullshit.
Linux includes ads built into Firefox in a lot of the popular distros.
I’d say firefox doesn’t qualify as OS but I get your point, distros do ship it by default.
The good thing is that those ads are just defaults, not permanently baked in. I can get rid of them in about 2 minutes. Mozilla doesn’t sell your usage data so they need another way of funding themselves and I don’t think there’s a better way to do it.
The same can be said about the Windows ads. It’s just a checkbox to turn off tips. Tips are useful a lot of the time so people don’t want to turn them off. The second a tip isn’t useful it’s seen as an ad.
First of all, tips will automatically get enabled during some updates.
Secondly, tips notifictions telling you to use microsoft crap are not the only ads. You get fullscreen ads for office after booting that are made to look exactly like an installer, you get edge literally spamming you with popups when you try downloading another browser (that’s closer to malware than an ad but I’ll let it count).
You get ads in the settings menu as well and if you try to edit a video like you could on windows 7, you get the “fuck you, pay a subscription”.
You also get ads in your start menu and of course, don’t forget the start menu search that will rather show you a bing page full of ads than actually search for your files.
Please stop defending this bullshit, it benefits no one but microsoft and is actively making the world a worse place.
I’ve literally not seen any of the ads you are talking about (besides an office 365 install prompt at the end of an install) but I run a windows debloater tool on every install since windows 7. I also never had an update mess with the debloater stuff or turn ads back on.
Standups and retrospectives.
May I ask why? This coming from the guy that has to facilitate them.
I’m especially curious about the stand-ups, since I have mixed feelings about retrospectives myself, they have their place and I think they play a part in a team’s growth, but at the same time I’d rather just cancel them if I don’t feel we’d get anything useful out of it and I don’t want to hold a retro just because the process says so.
LE: Gonna just edit this to say thank you to the people who replied, gave me some new perspectives to think about.
I’ve just had some unlucky jobs, I think. Think 30-45 minute stand-ups for a team of 4, because the team lead or PM or “Scrum Master” feel like they have to prove their worth or something when ultimately the standup provides little to no value after the first 4 minutes (if any).
For jobs with a single ADO or Jira board, just look at our ticket status and comments.
I had one job that had daily stand-ups, a single ADO board, a requirement to send EOD status update emails, and a requirement to copy those updates to individual ticket comments EOD as well. I rage quit that job after 2 months because, frankly, that’s absurd (it had other issues too).
My favorite standup at a job was one with 12-16 people and it took no more than ~6 minutes. It was no BS. The manager got his quick update notes across all supported clients (and separate ADO/Jira boards) and everyone got to go about their day. If you talked too long you’d get cut off.
But generally, daily stand-ups are just an interruption and a thing where I end up having to make up some BS to appease management. If my update is too long, team members hate it. If it’s too short, management thinks I’m not doing any work.
As for retrospectives, of 15+ jobs in my life, only 2-3 of them ever even did anything with the feedback. Thus, it typically felt like a waste of 1-3 hours (yes one job had 3 hour retrospectives every two weeks, it was brutal). If none of the bads or nexts are ever going to happen, then don’t pretend like we even have a voice.
If your stand-ups and retrospectives aren’t BS, provide understood value, and don’t waste time then I’m fine. But if all they exist for is to check a “we’re agile!” box and allow management to flex, then I’d say it’s doing the exact opposite of agile and merely annoying the engineers.
For stand-ups you really need at least one person that keeps it on track and limits the time each person has, cutting them off and telling them to talk after.
only 2-3 of them ever even did anything with the feedback
Exactly this. Nothing ever gets done with the feedback so what is even the point? Just to make it look like we care?
In my experience I feel like I’m basically talking to myself during the stand ups. No one is actually listening to anyone’s status except maybe the scrummaster. I’ve said things in the standup to have coworkers be surprised later on when they’re actually carried out.
I think the value of standups depends a ton on the team’s composition and maturity.
On a team with a lot of junior or low-performing devs who don’t have the experience or the ability to keep themselves on track, or a team with a culture that discourages asking for help as needed, a daily standup can keep people from going down useless rabbit holes or unwittingly blocking one another or slacking off every day without anyone noticing.
On a team of mostly mid-level and senior devs who are experienced enough to work autonomously and who have a culture of communicating in real time as problems and updates come up, a daily standup is pure ceremony with no informational value. It breaks flow and reduces people’s schedule flexibility for no benefit.
When I’m thinking about whether it makes sense to advocate for or against daily standups on a team, one angle I look at is aggregate time. On a team of, say, 6 people, a 15-minute daily standup eats 7.5 hours of engineering time a week just on the meetings themselves. The interruption and loss of focus is harder to quantify, but in some cases I don’t even need to try to quantify it: when I ask myself, “Is the daily standup consistently saving us a full person-day of engineering time every week?” the answer is often such a clear “yes” or “no” that accounting for the cost of interruptions wouldn’t change it.
Both are totally useless. I feel like screaming into the wind would be more useful.
Blatant disregard for preserving people’s hearing. Most of my coworkers are of the opinion that not wearing hearing protection while operating loud tools and equipment (chainsaws, pneumatic drills etc) is not a big deal. What’s worse they will often not bother to give a heads up to people working nearby that they are about to start. As a musician, and also someone with a family history of hearing loss, this kind of behavior pisses me off
People saying "10-4” on the radio when they mean “affirmative” or “yes”
What does 10-4 really mean then?
I think it’s technically supposed to be an acknowledgement that the message was received.
Messaged received / ok / got it
Well since 10-4 is a radio code meaning message received, I think they’re saying exactly what they mean.
Things like “Did you guys go for lunch?” and hearing back “10-4”. Obviously I know what they mean, it just annoys me.
I don’t work at the moment, but here is a list of stuff I’m glad to be away from:
- That guy over there that grunts and coughs and clears his throat every 37 seconds.
- Having ten minute standup meetings every day, that take at least 45 minutes every day and could have been replaced by looking at the status page in the wiki.
- That other guy over there that raises his voice and yells and carries on every time he is on the phone, completely unaware that his phone has a microphone, and that anyone else exists
- People who eat stinky stuff for lunch at their desk, chewing with their mouth open while watching the football at full volume. Go and use the lunch room, you inconsiderate fuck.
- my boss over in the next cubicle who yells out someone’s name, expecting them to be there, and then yells a series of instructions whether they are there or not. I’m trying to think, can’t you just get up and walk all the way over to another cubicle to talk at a reasonable volume, like a normal person?
- The woman that just started, sitting in the next cubicle, that reeks of foul perfume. I know when she arrives and leaves by the smog cloud, the revolting stench that follows her around the office, and the trail of people vomiting and struggling to breathe after she goes past. I tried to do the right thing and talk to her and she conveniently can’t speak English, unaware that I can hear her on the phone speaking flawlessly.
We may have worked in the same office.
I’m sure you’ve got more, this is Dilbert-level stuff!
No doubt, I worked in large corporate offices most of my working life, and don’t I regret it…
Like the other person said edge is the only approved browser and they don’t like Firefox.
We are software developers and they don’t like Firefox.
Also, they don’t allow wearing headphones and it’s awfully quite sometimes and I have ADHD and have to fill that noise by talking.
Could you use just one ear bud? I do that a lot so that I can still hear what’s going on around me but have some music or podcast going while I work.
Depending on where you live it and the job you do, you may be possible to get an exception to the rule against wearing headphones.
If you’re in the US or UK, I know it would be your right to request reasonable accommodation for ADHD - either under the ADA or the Equality Act.
Obviously if there’s a good reason to disallow headphones (for example, if there’s some danger that you wouldn’t be able to hear) then this wouldn’t help. But if it’s just the company being controlling, you can probably get an exception.
Im in the UK so I assume this applies, I just don’t want to be that guy that’s like yeah I’m going to force you to let me wear headphones.
I still have to work there after all and I don’t want things to be awkward. Although I would get in to less friendly arguments about politics and such if I could wear them and I could also drown out my own mind.
It doesn’t need to be a confrontation - just have a chat with your manager, mention that you have an ADHD diagnosis and that you have been recommended some things to help improve your focus, attention and performance at work, and that one of those suggestions was listening to music or white noise through headphones, and ask if it could be considered as an adjustment due to your disability. If you frame it as a collaborative and positive action that you can take together, rather than something you’re demanding to be different, I don’t think there’s any reason for your manager to be offended by the request.
Also, they don’t allow wearing headphones and it’s awfully quite sometimes and I have ADHD and have to fill that noise by talking.
This is the far far bigger WTF-moment for me. No headphones? In an open office?!
Yeah it’s awful. There are only 6 of us as it’s a small company, and I get that it’s easy to just shout someone’s name, but man we have stupid teams they could nudge us on.
One day most were on holiday or sick and it was just me and this dude that never speaks, like we could all be talking away and be never joins in and if you talk to him you’re getting one word back. That day with no headphones was so so long.
Oh god, I feel bad for that guy. Like, also the rest of you, but a chatty six person office that bans headphones if you don’t like smalltalk? Torture.
Same situation for me - only my desk mate plays accuradio over speakers like we’re in a fucking gym. I can barely keep focused on anything
As someone who has ADHD AND is an introvert with social anxiety, that office is my idea of hell! Definitely wouldn’t last a month, maybe not even a week.
Im also an introvert but I worked in retail for a long time and I managed to fake benign an extrovert. Now I don’t know what I am.
If I’m around people I know I’m quite outgoing, else I don’t like people and want to be alone. Plus I get drained the more I converse with people.
Sounds like you’re like me then: a personable introvert.
I’m good at faking being a social butterfly when I have to as well and generally treat people kindly and considerately but yeah, it really IS draining to deal with people for long periods of time and I tend to avoid it when I can do so without stepping on anyone’s toes…
See, that’s the main thing that differentiates introverts. A lot of introverts trend to being quiet and unsocial, but it’s because they’ve learned that it’s exhausting. Then there’s the lot of us who, for whatever reason, have been forced to push through and do it anyway.
Being social is a skill you have to develop, and since we’ve had to put in more work, we can be pretty good at it. When I’m in a social situation I can turn it on. My defense mechanism when I’m feeling uncomfortable is to shut my brain off and let that social muscle memory take over and I become super charming. Or I have to take over a meeting because I’m the only one who actually understands the topic and can communicate it. I can do it, and I’m good at it. But as soon as it’s over I can feel my brain deflate. Sometimes it uses all my spoons and I know immediately that I’m not going to get anything else done the rest of the day because an early surprise meeting showed up on my calendar.
I’m that guy. The phone next to me is ringing SUPER LOUD nonstop, ear hurting loud. Sometimes he has two phones and while talking they call him again. There’s people on the front talking about work, but talking. People at the back talking too. People come to talk to coworkers next to me… It’s hell, I’m lucky my sector doesn’t have work shortage so I’m just going to leave.
Now, they told me that I can use headphones when I said I’m leaving, but… yeah no, this kind of things have to be though beforehand, not given as the carrot so I don’t leave. Think about accomodating workers, not appeasing them when they complain ffs.
When people message with a “hi” or “hello” and then say nothing more till I reply.
It annoys the hell out of me. Like, why can’t you just say what you want. It wastes so much of my time and mental energy to switch back and forth while I wait for your reply after replying to your utterly useless hello.
just answer them with https://nohello.net/en/
Especially infuriating when the other person is in a very different time zone. I once worked on a project with a partner company in a time zone 10 hours ahead of mine and it was common for trivial things to take days purely because the other person insisted on typing “Hi,” waiting for my “Hi, what’s up?” response (which they didn’t see until the next day since our hours didn’t overlap), and then replying with their question, which I didn’t see until my next day. Answering the actual question often took like 30 seconds, but in the meantime two or three days had gone by.
I came to believe they were doing it on purpose so they could constantly slack off and tell their boss they were blocked waiting for my answer.
I occasionally give people shit for this. Chat is asynchronous and I’m busy just ask me the question and I’ll respond back when I can. Some people just won’t learn though and I usually just leave them on read.
What’s worse, after you “hi” them back, some people (looking at you project managers) just ducking call without any explanation. Drives me nuts
Reject call.
‘why didn’t you answer’
‘I’m not available for calls right now’
‘why’
‘that’s not your business’
I’ve wandered down this road a few times now.
Got reported to my manager for doing just that. My rule was simple: if you’re not my boss, I need to know what the call is about in advanced.
I just explain the same as above.
If you’re not paying me for my time, you’re not entitled to it, nor an explanation of what I do in my own time.
If we’re talking about time on the clock, that’s a different story.
Or I think worse yet, I ask a question, and they don’t reply for a while so then when they do respond all they say is “hi.”
It infuriates me, I don’t need to be at my desk for you to answer the question I left you above! Ughhh
“Hi, we need to talk…”
I just wait until they say more things. Hello is nothing.
I have tried this. I’m often reminded the next day that they still haven’t received a reply from me.
I love that part.
