Edit: Looks like you can opt-out of that “new look and feel” pretty easily under the appearance settings but still, whats with putting rounded corners everywhere?
Edit 2: “Explore the web with a softer, more friendly aesthetic featuring rounded corners […] Designed to complement your operating system, whether on Windows 11, MacOS, or Linux.” The fuck does that mean? Windows 11 fair enough but most Linux distros don’t look like that at all.
The real mildlyinfuriating part is that they probably got inspired by Arc, a relatively new browser. They already copied how their window splitting works.
Pretty crappy for MS not to have good designers themselves and then copy (often poorly) what one of the small players is doing.
Have you ever looked at MS’s business plan over their lifetime? This is nothing new.
Rounded edges have been a trend in UX design for a while now. It’s not really a concept that they need to have stolen from anyone else.
God you poor thing! Are you okay? You’ll get through this, don’t worry.
So your take is no one can have an opinion on anything. Got it
What’s infuriating about fucking rounded corners on a webpage? Mildly or otherwise.
Y’all need to learn some coping skills. Jesus.
What’s infuriating is the decision to do it, or that it even crossed someone’s mind, or that people like you just defend whatever bullshit gets fed to you
Yeah dude let’s BURN THIS SHIT DOWN
NO MORE ROUNDED CORNERS IN EDGE GOD DAMNIT THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Later chump
Softer…like they just wanted to take the edge off.
I’ll see myself out now.
One of my son’s steam buddies is nicknamed Microsoft edging. I think it’s pretty funny, not sure my son gets it… (He’s 15 though, so it won’t be long)
i wish they would take the edge off my computer
Use Firefox
god that looks ugly
I remember a version of Chrome in the early days where I feel like they finally got the UI perfect. Of course, it’s been changed a hundred times since then. Can’t developers just leave well enough alone?
Edit: Within a day of posting this, I started getting pop-ups in Chrome saying something to the effect of “You can change the appearance of Chrome”. I changed it alright. I’m using Firefox now.
Here’s is something I don’t see a lot of people mention. Around the release of Pixel 3XL, Google kinda updated lot of their designs to make that hideous notch look intentional. Chrome Tab Headers were changed too. They got bigger with a lot more padding and rounded to look like the “notch”. They got rid of the notch in their phones, but the chrome tab header design somehow stuck
I get we’re all old blokes and don’t like change, but these rounded corners and UI changes are arguably better. Nothing wrong with a new modern look
How is it better? Your screen in square. Pages are rectangular
Wha… Why are you using Edge?
I’m so confusedI have a few sites that do not work on FF. I have to use it sometimes.
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I don’t understand what you mean by jank, and uBlock origin is objectively better on Firefox.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox
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Odd, I rarely have any problems and I use a beta version.
I upvote you to counter at least one downvote because you have an opinion.
Much to the chagrin of a large portion of lemmy users Edge is not actually a bad browser. If you’re using a chromium based browser anyway there’s really nothing worse about edge than the other options. Obviously not talking about Firefox here.
I chose edge over chrome nowadays. But I’m still a firefox man. The AI help chat thingemejig of edge is also pretty okay.
Exactly. It’s my Chrome browser of choice. I use Firefox virtually all the time, but if I need somethiung that works in the cases where non-chromium does not, I use Edge. It’s a fast, its already installed so no extra fuss, it has the best vertical tab implementation that really should be standard for every single browser.
Would you say you use it in
edge cases?
The vertical tabs are why I keep it around.
im in the same boat edge is pretty fire tho imo compared to chrome at least.
i havent used it in a bit tho coz of firefox but its a fine browser firefox being good doesn’t make edge bad
Chagrin. When your step father Steve tells everyone in your school that you’re quote: as smooth as a seals behind down there… much to your chagrin.
Chagrin.
Got stuff at work (Microsoft services, for the record) that’ll work in Edge or Chrome, but not entirely in Firefox (gee, wonder why)
Edge is really the best browser for Windows users with low end PCs.
pretty much because like IE, when using Windows part of it runs in the background whether you like it or not.
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It got way better in the past few years. I think everybody hates it, because the internet explorer was that slow. So it just stayed in our minds that the Microsoft browser sucked.
No. It sucks because it’s Chromium.
Most people on fedi will complain about there not being enough browser diversity and then immediately start worshipping and putting Firefox on a pedistal and complaining if anyone uses anything else
What chromium alternative would you suggest?
Show me in this doll where the Arch user hurt you. 😞
Using firefox will create browser diversity
I really don’t get their take on FF use. Maybe they don’t realize that virtually ALL the other browser options are Chromium based. Your only real choices are Chrome | Safari | Firefox
And Safari is only on apple devices. So for other devices its Chrome or Firefox. With Chrome having near market monopoly… so… yeah Firefox is diversity.
Real chads pirate Safari and run it on Arch. /s
Hmm… that should be possible shouldn’t it. Ok, my wife’s rarely used Thinkpad is turning into a my first Arch machine.
Scratch that she doesn’t want me screwing with her laptop, she said to put it on my desktop. TBF I have a habit, or rather an ADHD, of starting ‘upgrades’ to things and leaving them in a non-functioning state for a while before finally coming back to them and finishing.
It still sucks, but in a different way.
The experience in the enterprise as well as the management of it make sense for any company who are a m365 shop. Native seamless single sign on with corporate identities, along with syncing the browser make it a no brained for me to use for work. For personal stuff though I stick with Firefox.
One browser to actually use and one without anything to test shit on
I mainly use Firefox but have Edge to test website with, can’t really uninstall it anyway.
Alright. This guy’s story checks out. Let’em through.
Damnit! Now I’ve oiled my pitchforks for nothing. Ah well… gues i’ll be visiting the political subs again…
Hey, I saw someone ask an innocent question about something they don’t know in a post down the street. Wanna go make fun that guy?
Oompa loompa doompadideed
We’re honna make fun of some guy down the steeet
Get a load of this guy not oiling his pitchfork regularly any way.
Why not just use Ungoogled Chromium for your tests? It’s the same browser anyway, just without the spyware.
Because your tests might react differently in an environment with spyware. And rounded corners. These are called Edge cases.
LMFAO 💯
Well, I managed to uninstall it fully through Safe Mode and regedit but that made the fingerprint reader stop working. (It’s my sister’s laprop, okay? I use Mint on mine.)
not with that attitude you can’t. (C’mon. You know you wanna convert to linux.)
You can…
It is possible to remove it, needs a bit of work and running scripts as admin to do it but you can figure out if you look it up. I can’t remember how I did it and I don’t use windows anymore but first page results should bring it up.
Designed to complement your operating system, whether on Windows 11, MacOS, or Linux.”
Who the FUCK uses Edge on Linux??
Is there even a stable version for Linux? Last time I’ve checked it was still in beta
i don’t think i’ve ever used a microsoft product that didn’t feel like it was still in beta
That’s not fair, solitaire didn’t have too many bugs
And MSPaint has always been the perfection of beauty.
Honestly, has anyone been able to find ms paint bugs? It’s extremely stable too, reliability is king
Closest thing I can think of would be back in the day when colour palettes were small enough that paint had colour blends in its palette, if you filled with one of those, it didn’t treat that filled area as one colour so that you could fill it again with a different colour.
But I wouldn’t even call that a bug so much as a lack of feature. And it was kinda satisfying to fill one of those blended colours and then alternatively fill with the two colours that made the blend and watch it slowly creep out to fill the entire space. Lol I didn’t even realize I still had that memory in the archives.
it was kinda satisfying to fill one of those blended colours and then alternatively fill with the two colours that made the blend and watch it slowly creep out to fill the entire space
You might like this puzzle.
There’s a download link for .deb and .rpm on Microsoft’s website, with no disclaimer that it’s beta.
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Beats setting up a Windows VM and extracting a Windows license from asset management if you a have to support Edge customers.
On Windows it’s visibly the most resource-efficient browser out there. Maybe it holds up on Linux as well?
They have the ability to run two websites side by side in one tab. No other browser does that. It’s insanely useful
I don’t know, but I’m terrified I’ll one day meet them.
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Me, but because I need chromium for work and refuse to use Chrome. Firefox for everyday browsing.
Nooo just use degoogled chromium
But… you can just use Chromium on Linux
I know one person :'(
Used it for a while. One very nice feature is that when you use multiple profiles, you can specify in which of those external links open in. Every other browser opens them in the window that last had focus so I regularly have work related links open up in the private profile.
Also the performance was quite nice.
But since they continuously rub new services in my face with new versions, I ditched it again.
One very nice feature is that when you use multiple profiles, you can specify in which of those external links open in.
is this similar to Firefox containers? dunno why mozzila makes it as a plugin and hasn’t bundled it in yet as a standard feature, literally can’t live without it.
Not quite. Let’s say I have two profiles: “work” and “private”. If I have both open at the same time, they are separate browser windows with different tabs, different settings and different extentions.
I can now specify that external links open in “work”. If I now click on a link in Slack or in Thunderbird, they open up in the window with the “work” profile, even if the “private” window was the last active one.
You can do that in Chrome too, if you have multiple chrome profiles right clicking on links give you the option to open it in a different profiles window
Yes, but with “external” I meant opening links from other apps like Slack.
Yeah that’s what I mainly used it for. I would right click links on slack and make sure it would open on my work profile or not depending on the context of the link.
Although this could potentially have been when I used the web app rather than the installed app, so i may be misremembering
In the WebApp this would work. Across apps it’s a different story, since they just invoke a system command to open the URL in the associated application. From there it’s in the hands of that application, how to deal with it.
Mozilla’s “Multi-Account Containers” extension on Firefox does a much better job at the multiple profiles feature you’ve described.
I miss the tab grouping from Chrome based browsers in Firefox.
And I think tab containers don’t provide the separation I need to properly separate work from private.
You might be better off using a custom Firefox profile for that then. Not too well integrated UI-wise sadly though
That’s essentially how this sub-thread started 😁
It’s like they want to drive away the experienced users who don’t need their hands held and rarely need support to focus on the part of the market that will still find ways to break things no matter how much they dumb it down.
Corporations which stepped in intune
I use bing as default search on my qutebrowser
I use it for work - it allows me to keep things separate.
Use different user accounts. That provides you with very stronger isolation and separation of concerns, with the bonus that you won’t be exposed to their crap.
How about you just let them use whatever works for them?
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you can use a work sandbox in firefox to keep it seperate
Just installed Edge on Arch after a disastrous Teams call with Firefox and Chromium, figured it was worth trying MS’ browser next time but I’m not holding my breath.
Edge is just Chromium. When they retired IE they switched. It might still work better because it’s the default supposedly built to work with their products so their tweaks should help. But it is Teams and they’ve been doing a lot more updates lately. Did you update to the new version of Teams they’ve been pushing? It’s bad and it’s performance is bad, so that can cause issues.
The Linux app was discontinued last year, I read that we’re supposed to use the PWA now, has it changed?
It’s bad and it’s performance is bad
🔫 Always has been
Only thing I can think of is if you are developing a website or extension and need to make sure there isn’t some subtle browser difference. Though since it uses the same engine as Chrome, that use case should be a lot more niche than it used to be.
Heh reminds me when I was doing web development back in the day and had IE running on Linux. It actually made more sense to test compatibility with IE by running it through wine on Linux than actually doing it on Windows because I could have multiple versions of IE installed at the same time.
Smartphones: Rounded everything, nobody actually likes it. Edge:
Just because a few people on Reddit and Lemmy don’t like a thing, doesn’t mean that “nobody” likes it.
I was being hyperbolic. In the billions of people who inhabit this earth, I bet there’s like two or three who genuinely like it. But they are crazy, and their opinions are wrong.
Me! I am crazy and my opinion is that I like the round corners. Well, on Win11 where everything is rounded, anyway.
You are still discrediting anyone who doesn’t share your opinion. First you hyperbolically alleged they don’t exist, now you downplay their numbers and dismiss them as crazy.
Are you still being hyperbolic, or is this just how you genuinely think?
Do YOU like it then? It’s fucking awful.
Some phones have too large of a border radius, but I generally like it.
Am I crazy and wrong now?
As it’s Microsoft, you can be pretty sure the option to turn off the new look and feel will be removed in 6 months
Or half finished and left in there for decades
It could even be both, if you really think about it
Rounded is the new thing? Aren’t YouTube videos also rounded now
Not that new. Apple was doing it in the 1980s. Jobs made the engineers figure out a way to do it, enough though it used extra memory, when they didn’t have much to spare.
Hell, they were doing it way back in the 1930s. TVs had rounded corners all the way into the 90s due to limitations of CRT design. I didn’t start seeing TVs with hard corners until the early 2000s. They didn’t last very long, cause a couple of years later Plasmas and LCDs became a lot more affordable and killed off the CRT market.
It’s not really a new thing but it’s something that there’s seemingly no real reason for other than it looked good to whoever came up with it?
Big companies don’t make highly visible design decisions like this on a whim… at least most of the time. They probably have research showing that rounded edges are preferred by end users. Maybe less anxiety inducing or something.
other than it looked good to whoever came up with it?
That’s just objectively wrong. Biologically speaking.
We have pretty much since we are Sapiens preferred rounded everything. Boba and Kiki are a thing.
The oddity (biologically speaking) is finding sharp edges more appealing whee they offer no considerable advantage…
When browsing even the least reactive webpage EVER; you won’t be needing those 32.5 missing pixels.
When browsing even the least reactive webpage EVER; you won’t be needing those 32.5 missing pixels.
You think this is acceptable, until an ad put it’s close button up there and Chrome has already prevented AdBlock.
You think this is acceptable
Yes.
until an ad put it’s close button up there and Chrome has already prevented AdBlock.
No.
Rounded corners make sense for phones (cause they provide better protection against falls), but I’ll never understand why they would do this to a desktop browser.
better protection against falls
Do they really? I don’t know about other phones but on my Pixel 6 Pro the entire front is pretty much covered with glass so it doesn’t really matter if the OLED has a rounded bezel in front of it or not.
It might protect the actual OLED in case of a drop, though.
Structurally speaking, yes rounded corners are 2 magnitudes better against direct impacts. That’s just physics.
Sure they can add rounded corners but can they fix this mess?
It’s like they somehow overcentered a div. I didn’t even know it was possible. They used
display: ‘crunch’
in their CSS.
Maybe their devs did their work in Firefox rofl
MicmosHoefteEdgehat my beloved <3
I’ve noticed that there’s a shift in UI design currently back to the 2000s style of round UI design, which eventually moved out of the way for nice straight crisp corners when we shifted from CRTs to LCDs which could render pixel perfect images at last.
We never limited the viewport on a browser of course, that’s madness. But just look at XP’s bubbly design and interfaces of the time vs Win8/10’s very angular, clean crisp interface.
I do hope we’re not descending back into an age of curves, I’m not a fan. But styles come and go every few decades, and maybe younger people today are ready to experience their “age of curves” for the first time?
I wish cars stopped being curvy and went back to rectangle lights and straight lines
It might just be down to nostalgia, especially when it comes to the early 2000s Windows XP style aesthetic. Just think about all the Vaporwave stuff (although that seems to be mostly late-90s-ish).
I’m more of a Windows Aero fan, myself. Frutiger Aero in general has a very dystopian vibe for me but I’m a sucker for transparency.
I miss integrated transparency
Fuuuuck edge
