GM’s replacement for CarPlay is due at the end of 2023, but its dealers are in the dark about when that will be and what it will do to sales when buyers figure it out.
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I’ve seen CarPlay used once. However, I much prefer Tesla’s system. Something about CarPlay seemed laggy and limited. Like, you couldn’t even a read a text; it had to be read to you, even while stopped.
Tesla’s button free UI makes me want to tear my hair out when driving. Like it was designed by phone guys not drivers.
I get that, but I like having the UI be customizable. In the video mode, when parked and charging, I don’t need to see buttons.
My first GM vehicle was a C7 Chevrolet Corvette. I wanted it since it was announced in 2014 but held out until 2016 when it finally got CarPlay. I’ve since traded it in for the 2020 C8 Corvette that also has CarPlay. I bought a dongle that enables wireless CarPlay so I don’t even need to plug it in.
I absolutely love my Corvette and would be interested in buying the next generation. However, I will not consider it or any other GM vehicle if CarPlay is dropped. It is a mandatory feature for me.
How well does wireless CarPlay work?
I find that it works flawlessly in our Mach E. Obviously not a ‘Vette but I think the early wireless CarPlay issues have been worked out.
My '21 Malibu had it out of the box. I can’t speak for Car Play, but wireless Android Auto is 95% flawless. There’s that 5% where I get in and the phone won’t connect automatically. But I think it’s an issue on the phone side. I have to unlock the phone then it kicks in.
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They really should get together and come up with some standard protocol, instead of having cars use proprietary protocols tied to a specific mobile OS.
If they did, Apple wouldn’t adopt it and we’d be in exactly the same place as we are now.
Probably. At least it would allow connecting to your car without iOS or Google apps.
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I like my FCA maps better than Apple’s because they licensed them from Garmin.
I still won’t buy a car without CarPlay.
Wireless CarPlay is out there now too. I just had a rental car that had it, and it was very neat! It would connect to my phone while still in my pocket, and if I was going for a short trip there was no reason to even pull my phone out. And then if I was going for a longer trip and wanted to charge my phone I could pull it out and plug into USB, and it didn’t interrupt the CarPlay at all. Very cool.
The only OEM radio interface that was better than CarPlay and Android auto was Ford (Microsoft) Sync, and it was also compatible with CarPlay and Android Auto so you could choose!
Since then, both Apple and Google have improved their interfaces to be on par with Ford Sync.
another was annoyed that they had to plug in their phone to activate CarPlay
I suspect that isn’t a current restriction, or it may depend on the car model. I have a car from 2018 where I have to plug in my phone for Android Auto work. That car is in the shop right now and I have a new 2023 loaner, and the loaner’s Android Auto integration connects directly to my phone via Bluetooth as soon as I start the car. Having experienced both now, I know for sure that wireless Android Auto is gonna be on the list of things I want in my next car.
I have a 2016 Kia Soul (stay away Kia Boyz, it’s a push button start!) And have been using this for wireless Android Auto…
… It’s fantastic.
Do people not charge their phones while they drive? I always plug my phone in when I’m in the car. But I’m seeing a lot of people complaining about it.
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It’s fascinating reading all of the responses here. I’ve never driven a car with Android Auto or CarPlay, and only use my phone for music and maps infrequently while in the car (with an aftermarket Bluetooth adapter). So I guess I don’t really know what I’m missing. I have absolutely no doubt that GM’s software wouldn’t be as good as connecting up to your phone, but I just have a hard time imagining that being the deciding factor on buying a car or not.
Apple fan boys are gonna lose their minds.
Android Auto is being removed as well. They are implementing a forked-Android-based interface that is incompatible with mainstream Android.
Imagine new GM EVs as the FaceBook or Amazon Fire phones with 4 wheels and a marginally more reliable battery.
My Miata shipped without CarPlay. When Mazda added support it later they had to replace one USB port ($12 part) and an hour of labor.
They charged $350. I didn’t hesitate for a second. I haven’t met an OEM interface that didn’t make me want to stab myself in the eye.
GM has previously said that people who buy a new GM electric vehicle will get access to features such as Google Maps for free — for eight years. After that, GM expects people to subscribe for what they used to get free with CarPlay, and ultimately sees it giving GM a potential $25 billion revenue stream.
My ten year old Chevy Volt just lost connectivity a few months ago because of the 3g phase out, leading me to unsubscribe from Onstar. How many years of subscriptions are GM planning to have before the next network phase out?
And anyone who used GM’s in-dash maps knows they can’t be trusted to keep their products updated lol
Yeah that’s some crap. At that point I’d just have my maps on my phone in the cupholder, no chance in hell I’m paying a subscription for something my phone already does, hands free laws be damned.
As someone who dosn’t have carplay but whose next vehicle will 100% have it. Yeah… as much as I dislike using my phone as a GPS sometimes compared to have android auto or carplay in a work truck there is zero chance of me spending money on any kinda of GPS while google maps exists.
Please do the world a favor and die already, GM.
I have 4 vehicles you know what all of them have in common regardless of the year? Apple Carplay/Android Auto and backup cameras.
If any manufacturer believes their shit maps and apps are better than Android or Apple they can fuck right off. I will hack or replace every system in my cars.
Oh look, another reason for me to not buy GM cars. Not that I was going to buy one either way.
Ditching features that consumers desire could lead to lower sales. More at 11.
It’s hilarious to me that these car companies think consumers will put up with their shitty infotainment just so they can hopefully open a new revenue stream with subscriptions. Consumers are just going to pass over your shit for competitors that do have Carplay/Android Auto.
What’s even worse is GM hired a VP who failed at Apple.
I wish I could fail upwards like that.
Me too, me too.
Going from VP at Apple to one at GM feels like a proper fail to me.
For the individual it doesn’t matter what the company name is. It matters what they’re paid.
I assume that’s a reference to Mike Abbott, as he’s a software VP at GM and used to work at Apple. He was only hired this year so I don’t see salary data for him, but other “Executive Vice President” positions are paid ~$8.8m as of 2022. No idea what he was paid at Apple, but it’s hard to consider a salary that is likely in the high 7 digits or low 8 digits to be a “proper fail.” If it is, I would love to sign up for this kind of failure.
Especially when you’re GM. It’s already an extreme longshot that I was ever going to buy another GM car, but this is 100% the final nail in the coffin.
I’ve only ever owned GM vehicles. After having had rental cars with Android Auto, I care a lot more about my next vehicle having Android Auto than I do about it being a GM.
Especially for new car buyers. It’s a much more iPhone heavy group than the general population.
At least in countries where I’ve lived, there were two expensive phones that are popular: Samsung Galaxy, and iPhones. The only GM could have boned this harder is if they somehow nerfed the experience on Samsung flagships too.
They did, they aren’t supporting car play or android auto
Idiots. This is a “don’t you guys have phones” moment, but about the GM management and I mean it unironically.
BRB, Resurrecting the aftermarket radio.
Between this bullshit and touchscreen-only controls, I’ve ruled out quite a few models.
Literally everyone in the world can see this is a braindead play except GM
They’re blinded by dollar signs that won’t come to fruition. Complete brain dead move on their part.
