So far my experience with Nextcloud has been that it is a pain in the arse to install, and once it’s installed is slow as anything. Literally couldn’t run it on my pi 3b, now got it up and running pretty nicely on a NUC but it’s still not great. Have caching set up.

I have the notes app installed on my android phone and I can never used rich text editing because it gives timeout error.

This shouldn’t be this complicated. All I want is to de-Google my documents and notes, and self-host my kanban. I don’t really need the rest though it’s nice to have the options.

Do people use alternatives? Am I doing something completely wrong? I set it up using nginx which I know is not supported, but the alternative using Docker AIO didn’t allow me to use custom port easily.

  • @[email protected]
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    62 years ago

    Nginx is supported and a good choice. What database are you using? I’d recommend MariaDB.

  • @[email protected]
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    42 years ago

    Pydio and Seafile are alternatives I’ve tried. Pydio was pretty fast too. I agree with you on Nextcloud, I want to like it but I inevitably start having issues and it’s slow even after tuning. It just tries to do too much and shouldn’t be that complex to spin up a file server.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      32 years ago

      To be honest I’m not interested in the file sharing side of nextcloud as I use Syncthing, I’m more interested in the utilities (eg notes, kanban) and the office capabilities. I want to replace gsuite

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    12 years ago

    I dont know about kanban but the other stuff can be achieved via webdav. All major webservers can do that or you just use filebrowser.org (a selfhosted webdav server with built-in user management).

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    32 years ago

    I’ve also had nothing but troubles with NC. I tried the AIO option and while it was easier to setup, it was still slow on both a VPS and my local unRAID server. I find that if you’re simply using it as a sync point for apps instead of regularly using the web portal, it’s ok. Seafile is insanely fast. But it stores the data in chunks on the server which some do not like as it can complicate backups. I work around that by just backing up from one of my always on clients since the seadrive client mounts the chunks into usable format. That works great.

    Then again, NC is way more app than I need.

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    62 years ago

    For speed Seafile absolutely smokes Nextcloud.

    If you create an account they’ll give a pro license (limited to 3 users) for free. Or you can stick with the always free community edition which works great too.

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      42 years ago

      I use Syncthing for my files, I don’t need a Web ui so it’s great and handles huge directories easily.

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    Go for the AllinOne (AIO) Installation! Had huge performance issues first (Nextcloudpi Docker & normal Nextcloud Docker) and none with the current install.

    You get a self servicing (updates/installation/etc.) docker install with backups and administration portal.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      12 years ago

      From the instructions it looked like anything other than the default ports is not supported in AIO. I want to host other sites on this server without much complication.

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    32 years ago

    Wdym nginx is not supported? It very much is. Nextcloud is a pain to set up but after fiddling with settings for a day or two you can get it working smoothly. In my experience there are no good alternatives to it.

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    22 years ago

    It runs quite nicely on my Pi 3 with Apache and no Docker. I only use cloud storage, but the rest seems to work fine if needed. Maybe switching to a supported configuration would help?

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    152 years ago

    Just want to say that I’ve been there. There was a time my Nextcloud install was incredibly slow. Fortunately (or unfortunately?), it is featureful enough and widely supported that once you figure this issue out, it is a nice service to keep running.

    For me, adding Redis was essential. It doesn’t really make sense to me why (nothing I do on Nextcloud is intensive or data heavy) but it has greatly improved the performance of my app.

    My entire setup is a containerized Nextcloud, Nextcloud Cron, MariaDB (if I knew Postgres was an option, I would’ve chosen that), and Redis:

    version: '2'
    services:
      nextcloud:
        container_name: nextcloud
        image: nextcloud:27-apache
        restart: unless-stopped
        environment:
          - MYSQL_PASSWORD=nextcloud
          - MYSQL_HOST=db
          - MYSQL_DATABASE=nextcloud
          - MYSQL_USER=nextcloud
        labels:
          - 'public-service=true'
          - 'traefik.enable=true'
          - 'traefik.http.routers.cloud.rule=Host(`nextcloud.some.domain`)'
          - 'traefik.http.routers.cloud.tls=true'
          - 'traefik.http.services.cloud.loadbalancer.server.port=80'
        volumes:
          - /some/data/dir/nextcloud/data:/var/www/html
          - /some/external/dir:/wew:ro
    
      nextcloud-cron:
        image: nextcloud:27-apache
        restart: unless-stopped
        command: [/cron.sh]
        environment:
          - MYSQL_HOST=db
          - MYSQL_DATABASE=nextcloud
          - MYSQL_USER=nextcloud
          - MYSQL_PASSWORD=nextcloud
        volumes:
          - /some/data/dir/nextcloud/data:/var/www/html
          - /some/external/dir/:/wew:ro
    
      db:
        image: mariadb:10.4
        restart: unless-stopped
        environment:
          MYSQL_DATABASE: nextcloud
          MYSQL_USER: nextcloud
          MYSQL_ROOT_PASSWORD: nextcloud
        volumes:
          - /some/data/dir/nextcloud/db:/var/lib/mysql
    
      mysqldump:
        image: mariadb:10.4
        depends_on: [db]
        # restart: never # cronjob
        labels:
          - 'cron.schedule=0 0 8 * * ?'
        entrypoint: [mysqldump, -h, db, -u, nextcloud, -pnextcloud, --all-databases, -r, /out/nextcloud.sql]
        user: root
        volumes:
          - /some/data/dir/nextcloud/db-dump:/out
    
      redis:
        image: redis
        restart: unless-stopped
    
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    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    AP WiFi Access Point
    HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
    NUC Next Unit of Computing brand of Intel small computers
    RPi Raspberry Pi brand of SBC
    SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
    SBC Single-Board Computer
    SSD Solid State Drive mass storage
    VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting)
    nginx Popular HTTP server

    7 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.

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    I have nextcloud running on docker on a Raspberry Pi 4 and I’d say the performance is comparable to Onedrive web interface. If you’re getting timeouts then something must be wrong with the setup, not the machine it’s running on. Using Postgres instead of MySQL or using an SSD instead of HDD is not going to help your issue.

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    12 years ago

    For Kanban I use wekan, because it has more features. Nextcloud I host using snap, which I cannot 100% recommend because it sometimes has troubles upgrading to the latest version. Still, for me it causes less trouble than a manual install.

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    292 years ago

    I seriously suggest you give Nextcloud another go, this time under Docker. Very simple to do.

    Save the following in a new folder as docker-compose.yml

    version: '3'
    
    volumes:
      db:
    
    services:
    
      nextcloud-app:
        image: nextcloud
        container_name: nextcloud-app
        restart: always
        volumes:
          - ./data:/var/www/html
        environment:
          - MYSQL_PASSWORD=changeme
          - MYSQL_DATABASE=nextcloud
          - MYSQL_USER=nextcloud
          - MYSQL_HOST=nextcloud-db
        ports:
          - "80:80"
        links:
          - nextcloud-db
    
      nextcloud-db:
        image: mariadb
        container_name: nextcloud-db
        restart: always
        command: --transaction-isolation=READ-COMMITTED --binlog-format=ROW
        volumes:
          - db:/var/lib/mysql
        environment:
          - MYSQL_ROOT_PASSWORD=changeme
          - MYSQL_PASSWORD=changeme
          - MYSQL_DATABASE=nextcloud
          - MYSQL_USER=nextcloud
    

    run this command in the folder -

    docker-compose up -d

    open http://localhost

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Is the mariadb a default part of nextcloud? I’ve seen posts saying to use a separate db so things can be backed up easier, so I was wondering if that’s how you have it set up above.

      • @[email protected]
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        82 years ago

        In this setup the DB is not part of Nextcloud. Both are running in separate services aka containers, which can be administrated independently from each other.

      • Giddy
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        42 years ago

        No you can use other databases. It is separate here