Being forced to use a particular OS, hardware or programming language? Working remotely? Certain company structure?

    • @[email protected]OP
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      92 years ago

      I’m guess I’m lucky to never had encountered abuse. Have you seen it happen or experienced it yourself?

      • @[email protected]
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        82 years ago

        Harassment from toxic managers who abuse employees verbally (insults, etc.) It happens a lot sadly.

      • Jordan Lund
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        52 years ago

        I was an admin at a company that was borderline psychopathic. Yeah, tons of abuse at all levels. No progression unless you were a member of the executive teams family or married to one of them. Completely dysfunctional workplace.

      • @[email protected]
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        I would consider what my company is doing right now as board line abuse. They’ve done two rounds of layoffs this year, but the amount of work as not been reduced in the slightest. So everyone is overworked and scared of saying anything in case there is another round of layoffs. Of course this is also having a ripple affect where long-term hardworking employees are jumping ship.

        I currently have a backlog that is four years long. That was when I had a team working for me. Now I’m the only person on the team and not a week goes by when I don’t get ask what the status of XYZ is. Or have 2-3 more “high priority” things added to my backlog.

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        • abuse in the US workplace is (generally) not openly visible in ways you expect
        • and yet, sexual abuse is still extremely prevalent in all industries
        • US companies can impose a MASSIVE chilling effect just by having your healthcare tied to your employment
        • mental abuse can be subtle (a form of psychological warfare) with something as simple as “we’re like a family here” or “you wouldn’t want to let down the team, would you?”
        • the first episode of Zom 100 gave a really good example of how far the mental abuse can escalate – between overwork, lack of sleep, verbal abuse, bad diet, you no longer have time to step back and think, you become completely dependent on someone else telling you what to do, you no longer have the strength of will to even contemplate saying “No”
      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        Maybe. I guess I hate the idea behind Jira more than Jira itself. I call it middle management driven Agile.

        Also doesn’t help that Jira (and Confluence) were fucking slow for a long while. Nobody wants to use slow software as an integral part of the dev chain.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        Anything simple. I’m using Linear at my current job, which is fine. I’ve used Trello in the past, also fine. Best experience so far was using the GitLab issue tracker, but it as not a product team so YMMV.

  • @[email protected]
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    82 years ago

    I switched from Windows to Mac over a decade ago and never looked back. Working in software engineering at startups I always had Macs. I recently joined a larger company that is all Microsoft. I’m seriously burned out on having to use a Windows laptop and Windows software again. It’s just so kludgy and inefficient. I never really realized how bad it was until now.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      I felt that same way when I started using MacOS for work, but got used to it.

      The fact that there’s no way to snap windows to a side of the screen without manually moving the window and resizing it is absurd. I have programs that allow me to do it, but like come on.

      Also I still despise how fullscreen on MacOS works. It’s so obnoxious.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        Me too. I got a MacBook for testing Safari, but sometimes I take it to meetings because it’s easier than extricating my usual machine from its dock (which unplugs the Ethernet cable so all my SSH sessions die along with anything running in them). But as somebody who likes having things in full screen (it bothers me if I can see the desktop peeking through), I get very annoyed needing to scroll through every app I’ve got open until I stumble across the one I want every time I have to switch context.

  • @[email protected]
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    272 years ago

    Using war metaphors

    Requering blind loyalty

    Requering acceptance of any task

    Disregard for labor contracts

    Dumb management

    • @[email protected]OP
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      82 years ago

      Using war metaphors

      What do you mean?

      Requering acceptance of any task

      You would quit if something were against your morals e.g working on a project for Exxon mobile or something ?

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        War metaphors real examples:

        Literally calling your employees your soldiers, calling starting positions as trenches, brainwashing your employees to a us versus the world mentality, ex-employees are ‘dead’ or ‘on a suicidal path’, etc.

        Business is not war anyone who think it is has never saw what a single rifle bullet does to human flesh. Freaking psychos.

        Task was being discussed, I raised valid concerns, they listened, agreed to the concerns and said ‘yeah we still want you to do it’. I say I won’t do this. They push harder. I left on the spot. Notice was on director desk the next day. I suspect management wanted me to take on a botched task so to have something negative over me. There may of may not have some level of nepotism there.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          22 years ago

          Big yikes on the war metaphors. I’m also not a fan of alternative names for teams: squad, tribe, gang, clan, … makes me cringe.

          I suspect management wanted me to take on a botched task so to have something negative over me.

          Sounds like somebody with a god complex or way too deep in the army role-play “soldiers follow orders” bullshit.

  • @[email protected]
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    Left two jobs in the last 3 years because they offered remote and then tried to claw it back. If I ever set foot in an office again it’ll be too soon.

    I also tend to check in with myself on Sunday nights as I’m lying in bed. If I feel like I’m walking into a good situation the next morning, with good problems to solve and a decent chance of actually solving them, then I stick around. If I’m filled with dread awaiting the next off-hours disaster, I brush up my resume and flip the flag on LinkedIn.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      32 years ago

      I wish I were in the place you’re in right now. Good on you dude. Did the job switches also come with tasty salary bumps?

  • @[email protected]OP
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    472 years ago
    1. In office - COVID taught us remote works best for me, there’s no going back
    2. Pay - don’t pay/offer enough or give a raise at least equivalent to inflation --> 👋
    3. Micro-management / bad management -👋
    4. Force windows or mac onto me - first I push back, but I will quit if push comes to shove
    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      You’ve had a job where they let you use Linux on your machine? Every job I’ve had has been strictly windows

      • @[email protected]
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        72 years ago

        Every job I’ve had as a developer, I’ve had a Linux box for development. Some I’ve also had a Windows laptop for specialty hardware vendor programs / portability, and some I’ve also had a MacBook from which to work.

        I’m not going to whinge just because I don’t get to use all of my personally preferred platforms, but if my employer ever denied me the necessary equipment or insisted upon the objectively wrong technology for a project - in any way - I’d simply leave if they refused to listen, since I’m not going down on a sinking ship.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        I could choose on all my jobs. I’m doing linux since so long, I don’t even wanna hear of windows.

  • haruki
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    72 years ago

    I usually check in with myself:

    • Am I growing in my career?
    • Am I happy with my current workplace: people, culture, flexibility?
    • Am I valued to the company, i.e. my opinions are considered and regarded to some certain?

    If one or two of these conditions failed, I would consider moving. After all, if I went to a workplace and I didn’t find any joy or recognition, the paycheck wouldn’t make me stay.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      12 years ago

      We are truly lucky to be techies. Is there a paycheck that would let you take it though?

  • SirNuke
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    112 years ago

    I’m extremely open to tech stacks and specific industries, though I would die happy if I never had to touch another line of TCL. Go to hell TCL, and take your upvar nonsense with you.

    I’m currently between jobs and planning a career shift into a software engineer manager role, so I have been thinking about this quite a bit. A job I would leave - which is really leaving a manager/team, not a company - would rate poorly on these, which I’m polishing into a new “what type of position are you looking for?” answer:

    • A team that works cooperatively, as we accomplish more together than in competition. Everyone should strive to be world class at their roles, as being around that is critical for learning from each other.
    • An environment where clear and open communication is encouraged, including whatever anyone is struggling with.
    • Work that takes on difficult problems and strives to work through them with the highest standards.
    • A position that enables me to grow down my desired career path, which as of this writing means reporting to a software manager who is willing to delegate project management tasks and eventually people management as well.

    Something I wouldn’t reveal during an interview, though critically important, is a work environment that I can arrange such that it best enables me, and not be boxed in by someone else’s conceived ideas of how software engineers should act or work. I’ve felt like a square peg in a round hole my entire life. Turns out it’s a concrete objective fact (ADHD). I am so goddamn tired of feeling bad or apologizing for things that are actually just the scaffolding that I need to survive.

  • PopGreene
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    232 years ago

    There are so many reasons to leave a job. I can only say why I left jobs or rejected job offers in the past:

    • Left a bullshit job. I was bored.
    • Left a job because I didn’t like where I had to live.
    • Left a job because the company was unraveling. It went under within a year.
    • Let a job because of incompetent management and crappy code.
    • Rejected an offer because the place felt like a morgue.
    • Rejected an offer because the hiring manager’s boss acted like a entitled asshole.
    • Rejected an offer because the work spaces for developers were even worse than open plan.