Does it still seem difficult to understand, use, etc? did you come across anything positive?
I’m still very sceptical. While I love the idea of the fediverse, I honestly don’t think it will ever be more than a niche platform. It will probably remain active among “enthusiasts” but I can’t see it ever going mainstream.
It’s just not simple enough. If some non-tech person wants to join Twitter or Facebook or Reddit or Instagram, they just go to the site or app, sign up, and that’s it. No decisions need to be made, there is nothing to understand. My 70 year old mother could do it.
Joining lemmy is a commitment. And more importantly, it requires decisions to be made. Which server should I join? What difference will it make? Am I doing it wrong? Why are there different communities with the same name but on different servers? Why is there no ‘lemmy’ app? Etc.
Those of us who are here have made the effort to understand these things, but the general population won’t bother.
To be honest, most of these issues could be solved using abstraction, and lemmy world already does that to some extend. Giving the site the look and feel of a single website, with one simple way to join and participate will be vital. I’m not saying to remove those decisions, but rather have them on another layer so advanced users can still easily access them, while other users who are either new or don’t care too much about it can just use a common preset.
The truth is that we passed the point of no return with Twitter and Reddit where the quality of the product became so poor, and we (the actual project) became treated worse and worse that it was not going to improve. At least, it won’t improve as long as there is money, or someone with a colossal ego involved in the leadership of the company.
The truth is that we passed the point of no return with Twitter and Reddit where the quality of the product became so poor, and we (the actual project) became treated worse and worse that it was not going to improve. At least, it won’t improve as long as there is money, or someone with a colossal ego involved in the leadership of the company.
I don’t think people are skeptical, but what I do see is people expecting a new system to be the same as the old one, with all the same bells and whistles and activity. That is where skepticism kicks in. Those users are basically followers of the tech and probably should not jump in on the new stuff until they have no choice because the crowd moved over.
Client software. It’s been the turning point for me each time so far.
Ivory turned Mastodon from quirky interest/hobby-tier to something I’ll actually use.
For Lemmy https://wefwef.app has had the same effect for me.
I tried it months ago and there was no good way to have a consolidated access point, it basically required dozens of browser tabs to use it for anything and the interface was still bad. The development and client apps have changed everything, it’s a unified and seamless experience now where it just wasn’t before.
What got me off Twitter last October was the incident where Elon Musk decided to carry a sink around the Twitter offices, like a stupid, pretentious, overly dramatic jackass.
Then I joined Mastodon.
Nine months on Mastodon showed me that the Fediverse is great, and we’ve since learned that Elon Musk is lucky he was born into wealth, because he clearly doesn’t know his ass form his elbow.
I was skeptical of Lemmy and Mastodon thinking they will never become mainstream. It’s like able to run your own phpBB forum does not mean there will be a community. Businesses are wary of obscure software that are hard for customers to understand.
That was before the recent Reddit protest. Seeing how Reddit handles the protest, I have a feeling that this will work, especially when
u/spezsaid he follows Elon footsteps.In the last week, I started to see communities forming and I’m now sure there’s no going back for Reddit and Twitter.
Wefwef was easy to use. It was an easy choice.
Things will get Reddit levels before too long, too.
Time will tell, but it’s working for me at this point. I actually had Lemmy bookmarked on my desktop browser for quite a while and never used it. Mainly because it just wasn’t very active. However after the exponential growth resulting from Reddit’s shenanigans, it’s busy enough to keep my interest.
There was a bit of a learning curve in understanding how instances work and how communities are addressed. It didn’t take long to get used to it. I don’t see where that would be a show stopper for anyone willing to put in a modicum of effort. I don’t know maybe that’s a good thing, filter out the lazy ones.
The big positive for me is not being beholden to corpo profit mongering. We’ll never see corporate enshitification here (assuming we keep the Meta and Twitter types out). The Fediverse may suffer some growing pains, Lemmy and kbin in particular, but it seems to be coping so far. My main concern is scalability. If exponential growth continues things could get overwhelmed. Though It will probably settle down to a low roar pretty quick here.
Just signing up and ignoring the FUD.
I am fueled by my deep, loathing hatred for the snoo site. Plus I found a really great local instance where people are pretty chill.
Gab and Truth Social were always the most mentioned examples until Elon/Twitter/Mastadon. I’m still cautious of communities becoming overrun by Nazis.
Feels unlikely to me, personally. Those places were designed for shitheads, and there just aren’t that many shitheads to overrun regular places.
Our instance is currently voting to delist a an instance that the vast majority consider a nazi instance.
What form does the voting take? Does every member get an equal vote?
If they read the post that was up for like 48 hours and made the appropriate response in the comments, then yeah. It seemed pretty overwhelming, I would say only 5% voted no. I was more concerned that it clearly had a ton of weird bot activity going on and I didn’t want the mods to have to deal with the headache of dealing with that. They can always add them back, if they can ever get their shit together.
I’m still a skeptic. But Reddit is dead as far as I’m concerned
So anyways here I am I guess
This is the most relatable comment I’ve read today. This is my first day here and this is my first comment. My cherry has popped.
Wait oh my god
I was your first? <3
Wait oh my god
I was your first? <3
Whelp, I guess that means we’re going steady now!
Agreed. In fact, it kinda died awhile ago. I have no idea what I’m doing but I also know I’m not alone. Good luck to everyone trying to figure this shit out.
Which part are you not getting? Maybe someone can help you with it.
For me it was confusing just getting a login on jerboa. Had to Google search that I needed to click on the anonymous hidden tab to get to the login in screen. Every other button just yelled at my to login instead of taking me to the login screen. Also didn’t know I needed to set up an account at lemmy world first and subscribe to my instances. Just new stuff that were all working through.
For me it was confusing just getting a login on jerboa. Had to Google search that I needed to click on the anonymous hidden tab to get to the login in screen. Every other button just yelled at my to login instead of taking me to the login screen. Also didn’t know I needed to set up an account at lemmy world first and subscribe to my instances. Just new stuff that were all working through. First comment!
This is how I feel about it, too
Not difficult. After a couple days it’s simple. 3rd party apps are getting updated like crazy so that got my hopeful. And I like the pleasantness of the users currently.
I first joined Kbin a few days before the blackout, and I found it a little confusing (magazines? microblogs?), and didn’t use it much. But Reddit was going downhill, so I downloaded Jerboa from F-Droid and gave Lemmy a try. I liked the UI and found it less confusing than Kbin, so I made an account, and here I am.
Magazines is such a dumb and confusing name to call it. Communities is already perfect.
