No time shift or equivalent in neon.
Lately,
jqawkfor the modern age
Definitely git
Which one doesn’t have it?
Debian doesn’t have it installed by default. Can confirm, I’d love to have git so I can pull down my scripts and go back to sleep with every new machine.
Sounds like a job for Ansible. ;-)
I suppose you’re right.
at least Arch (and derivatives) and Guix. probably a lot more of them
it’s easier to list which distros have it ootb (none)
real easy indeed x)
Comparing Arch’s base + base-devel is kinda unfiar, there’s only 54 packages total there.
KDE Connect on KDE distros, just feels part of the KDE experience
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Multimedia codecs have a different license agreement than the OS so they aren’t bundled by default for a reason
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Most distros have a checkbox during the installer that will add non-free components. It’s a separate EULA you need to agree to so they can’t do it for you.
You may not care, but the distro provider’s legal team absolutely cares about not getting sued for automatically bundling components with an incompatible license agreement
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MPEG LA is (now Via Licensing Alliance) has been active in collecting fees and defending patents. There is no reason to assume they won’t go after distros, particularly those who can pay given that they are willing to take on anyone else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_LA
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Because those distros have (as we are talking about) distanced themselves from the patent encumbered codecs? When Google tried to get behind VP8, MPEG LA was right there to try and stop them by trying to get them into the pool.
Edit: I should have said many didn’t Fedora opted out of compiling mesa with hardware accell, and it seems others did too recently. But that means it was there the whole time. I guess most distros, that have any money, are going to want shelter from lawsuits.
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Don’t mistake this as condescension, but doesn’t VLC solve all of that?
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I’ve heard it’s great for opening any file. Is it good with a bunch of file formats as opposed to media codecs?
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Oh yeah! That downgrade option sounds cool. The only time I kinda regretted being on Manjaro. VirtualBox 7 still doesn’t have functional graphics. I tried
downgrade, but that didn’t work. Maybe I should have tried deleting the VirtualBox config 🤔Not sure why KDE/GSconnect would need to be preinstalled tbh. But I agree with the others
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Plus it’s normal for operating systems to have some kind of smartphone/smart device integration now.
And I don’t approve of this transition. It’s unnecessary bloat. Just install it if you want it.
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That’s not true lol
I am an arch user though
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I use systemd, but I do not use a DE.
Just because they contain bloat, doesn’t mean they should, and that more should be added.
because kde connect is so well made and everyone with a smartphone should use it
I don’t really want my smartphone notifs on my PC. It should be an optional addition, like it currently is.
I actually turned off the notification sync, I only use it for file transfers and the remote control features
I have syncthing for file transfers, and I love it
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The CD ripper, yeah? Agreed, great tool.
bash-completion
This and command-not-found
netstat curl and git
netstatis mostly deprecated and superseded by thesscommand.Wait?
ss? why haven’t I heard of this?Maybe you also haven’t heard about the
ipcommand which replaces various commands such asifconfig(replaced byip a).Oh, I’m familiar with
ipcommand. I’ve just completely missedss.
Debian, sudo, at least when ever I install it without a desktop.
edit: I’m dumb af, it tells you right in the installer, I just never read it
Classic mistake :)
I read that apparently if you don’t input a password for root that it apparently installs sudo. I might be wrong about this but could be worth a Google
That kinda makes sense but I never would have found it on my own.
https://www.maketecheasier.com/assets/uploads/2020/08/debian-install-set-password.png.webp
Third paragraph. I’m not trying to be a smart-ass, I also installed Debian a few times without seeing it.
Why would anyone continue reading after “you need a password for root”? You just the rest of the paragraph is gonna be ramblings about what constitutes a good password and so on. And it is exactly that and then at the very end they tell you about sudo. No wonder I always missed it.
Ill have to check and see if thats in the TUI installer too. TY
It is, they have the same text.
The installer says this when it asks you to type a root password. I don’t know why, but for some reason the information is both right there and easy to miss.
Please tell me that this is some brand new feature they added yesterday or smth
The option to not set a root password and instead let the regular user use sudo seems to be mentioned in the installer for the first time around 2007, so it’s been there for a while.
git really should be installed by default these days
tmux, htop, vim
What distros don’t include tmux and vim? Ubuntu has had them for at least a decade.
by default?
My work laptop came with Ubuntu preinstaled and didn’t have tmux nor htop.
Vim is not present by default in at least debian and arch. Although vi is present in every distribution I believe.
I can see that being the case for the Desktop variant. For the Server variant you get
vimandtmuxout of the box.
I was surprised that gnome ships with comes with it in default.
EPUB reader
Biggest surprise here is that browsers still have no EPUB support build in. It’s such a mind boggling oversight. They even got PDF support, but long form xHTML content is somehow still a big no.
Only Edge had EPUB for a little while, but even that got lost when they switched to Chromium.
Ya, epub is just html + zip
Telnet client
The 90s called…
useradd- I just wanted to give a friend my notebook for a python lecture and thought I could just add him as a new user. Apparently not by default.It’s the standard editor!
Seems like it would have to exist to create your initial login, unless you only had a root user
You can just manually edit /etc/passwd
I haven’t used that since the 90s on HP Unix. Do you get to set default permissions for file creation there, and also add user groups?
Ran into this some time ago and learned that there is a more rudimentary command
adduserinstead but it does not do things like home folder creationYeah, useradd should be the default over adduser
I am surprised that vi is often available, but not vim. It’s really annoying on many RHEL based distros, because I am so used to typing vim. Otherwise there is just git I deem essential.
Nowadays vi is just a symlink to vim.tiny, so you’re actually running vim (in vi mode).
No. If you have vim installed that’s true on many (some?) systems. As I said some distros have vi available, but not vim which is the annoying part.
The original vi has not been maintained for many years. Most distributions, including Debian, Fedora, etc, use a version of Vim which (mostly) is similar to how Vi was.
From Fedoras wiki:
“On Fedora, Vim (specifically the vim-minimal package) is also used to provide /bin/vi. This vi command provides no syntax highlighting for opened files, by default, just like the original vi editor. The vim-minimal package comes pre-installed on Fedora.”From the vim-tiny package description on Debian:
“This package contains a minimal version of Vim compiled with no GUI and a small subset of features. This package’s sole purpose is to provide the vi binary for base installations.”You are actually correct. I just checked the manifest of RHEL and it provides vim-minimal and not vi like I assumed.
I noticed that it behaves a bit different than the version available on AIX for example which for sure uses real vi, but I never gave it a second thought. Interesting.
Also OpenBSD use different versions, I’m guessing their vi is the original since it can’t handle utf-8. And iirc ex(1) is also a vim variant on Linux. I’ve never met anyone who actually uses ex though. ed(1) I think is just GNU ed. I am not certain about these versions though.
R.I.P. Bram Moolenaar. You made me think of it when you said go is unmaintained. I went to vim.org to see who is taking over vim but the security certificate is expired.
It reminded me of this grim realization I had in my grandparents house. They were getting old, I think one or maybe both were in a nursing home by then. The house was falling apart as they were. I was going up the deck stairs and a stair broke under my foot, luckily one of the very low ones. Some dishes had some mold on them in the cabinet. And now going to vim.org, the cert is broken.
Solution - learn using vi. You already did most of the work by learmjng vim.
There is not really anything to learn. It is just lacking some useful features and shortcuts which make it slower to use. It’s still much better than nothing.
Usually my biggest issue is that I am so used to write
vimovervi. At least for small edits.
Definitely not limited to RHEL!
Yeah, at least some distros have VIM tiny or whatever it’s called so my muscle memory benefits me.
Most distros I mess with have busybox installed, which as vi in it, but yeah sudo apt install vim is one of the first commands I run.
