My time on Reddit died simultaneously with Apollo. I’m doing what I can by not giving that place anymore traffic from me.
Found out about Lemmy yesterday. While it’s not there with niche interests at this point, it definitely cures the itch.
You want to stick it to the man? Quit going there altogether people!
Welcome! You’ve probably seen it around already, but just in case, you can search at lemmyversenet/communities and may turn up some of those niche communities that are just difficult to find otherwise. Ofc, maybe they don’t exist yet, but always worth a look!
Im part off your Username Ü
You’re inside of me
Now try wefwef it’s like Apollo
My screen time was more than halved when Apollo went down, it’s slowly increasing with wefwef though which is probably bad for me but still fun
Shhh just gimme some of that internet copium and doomscrolling, I need my endorphins
I like Memmy better. Inspired by Apollo also.
I’m using Memmy for Lemmy and the dev has said they were inspired by Apollo. There’s even a shoutout to Christian on the github page. It’s just had it’s official app store launch, definitely worth giving a try.
I would say Mlem is also inspired by Apollo, so I would recommended it as well; I keep jumping back and forth between Memmy, Mlem and wefwef.
Tried Thunder and Liftoff!, but they feel very Material Design-y to me, so using them on iOS feels off. Which is a shame because both are pretty fast.
Lemmios is also promising, but it’s still on early development so it’s a bit rough around the edges.
I’m also on Memmy and I like it!
Name was changed to Voyager, fyi
thank god, ive been avoiding wefwef just due to the name alone
Heads up it’s officially called Voyager now.
I’m using memmy; it’s pretty similar to Apollo as well.
Which app are using if you don’t mind me asking?
I recommend Voyager, basically a beat for beat recreation of Apollo for Lemmy.
Just using the Lemmy app
stock lemmy app does not exist yet on iOS publicly
My bad, Memmy
all good!
Same for me with Boost, and SAME for me with Lemmy lol. I’m using Liftoff now
Yeah I feel the same way. I’m on here and it’s working but I also do miss my years and years worth of subs I joined that made my feed perfect to what I liked, especially the smaller ones that I hope make it over here someday. Right now my lemmy feed just mostly feels like meme after meme or some politics post which is not really what I like at all so I may have to spend some time and figure out how to narrow my interests more on here.
That’s definitely the worst part for me too. But if people make the switch here and the user base grows and over time you curate your feed here, it could eventually be that again.
I’m just ready to sacrifice that to say “screw you” to Reddit. Finding this platform has just been a pleasant surprise
Reddit is really killing itself with bot mods. Its less tollerant than ever. they will ban all human users wuthin a few months at this pace.
Good
This place is a lot better than I expected it would be tbh, and I’ve been here a couple weeks now. It’s encouraging to see.
I’m lucky that my curated feed was mostly open source coding, AI tech and solar punk so I’ve been able to find even better communities than Reddit had. The less tech adjacent subs will take longer to build but you can see them starting to establish - I guess the best way to help that is to participate in them and to introduce other people to them.
You can get your multireddit and import it to some clients, like voyager/wefwef
Voyager on Android is good too!
just looked at it as well. it’s a web app but it seems cool! i also like how it’s self hostable too
They have an app link too, so it’s easy to use on the phone standalone.
Trying it out right now on my phone for a bit, i still like memmy a lot more tho :)
This is not true. I’m so sick of people here obsessing over reddit. Just get over it.
Yeah kinda cringe if I may say
Yeah, I moved over on the 30th when the app I’d been using for over a decade (the only way I ever accessed reddit) shut down and haven’t felt the need to discuss it. Until now, of course. It’s really silly and as newcomers to this place, we should be mindful that there are many longtime users that have made this space what it is. Here’s hoping the pollution ends soon.
tbf Boost was still working until yesterday so today is my first day without reddit and this time using both plataforms I really came to apreciate Lemmy.
this is so obtuse. people have been posting there for over a decade
It’s the way of things anyway. Reddit was often posting about Facebook, or Twitter, or TikTok, or Tumblr when it was relevant.
Really cringe 2011 style humor.
No they aren’t. At worst some subs have just entered peak meme status.
To be fair, quite a few subs I enjoyed a lot were permanently shut down and disappeared :-( Makes that website a lot less fun for me now. Such a shame.
I only briefly browse old.reddit, my mobile usage is zero now Apollo is dead.
Lemmy is okay but it’s kind of a chicken and egg, less content means less users, but less users means less content.
It also doesn’t help that users are split between instances, so Firefox on lemmy.world will have different content/users than Firefox on lemmy.ml.
I can see that not driving people away but confusing people that aren’t massively tech savvy.
When reddit had the same amount of content that lemmy has right now it was already its user’s main timewaster
It’s just a matter of time
There’s also power in just existing and becoming an increasingly more viable alternative to reddit. Between disappointment in the mods and how centralized things are, racist stuff invading the front page, ads, admins, … the less painful the transition becomes from one timesink to another the more the risk to Digg their own grave becomes threatening
The only thing I’m scared of is whether lemmy is capable of standing up to bad actors with its decentralized architecturr because if we imagined it becoming, say, half as popular as reddit; we’d start getting astroturfing campaigns and spam. And vote-manipulation is way easier here, and so is ban evasion
That’s like saying you signed up on both GMail and Yahoo Mail so you can get email from both Google and Yahoo users. I don’t understand why federation is such a difficult concept for people.
But you send email to specific people/groups of people. You don’t generally browse for email.
I can see that not driving people away but confusing people that aren’t massively tech savvy.
This is a disadvantage early, but it also weeds out a lot of the critical mass ignorance and a lot of the people who are unwilling to make any effort to think critically. I’m really looking forward to how it grows. The more popular it gets the more the pressure will be to have it be user friendly. Right now it feels like reddit from about a decade ago.
The split instance thing is actually great, if you don’t like a site that’s fedded with lemmy.world then you can just find one that blocks it- or make one yourself and put your communities there.
you can see stuff on ml from world with the “all” button
What if I want to browse the Firefox subreddit in one place, where all its content is gathered in a single location?
that’s what the “all” button is for.
but that gives you All of All, not just All of Firefox
I kinda feel like usage quirks like these are something that could become cultural knowledge overtime. Usenet was hardly user friendly but managed to get a huge user base and still does I think (although probably mostly because it was first)
You can choose more freely your subscriptions and info, not based in a unique-centralized and biased source, but from a community of servers which resist to the monopoly of the internet.
You can browse all across both instances though since they are federated.
Yeah, I know that, but on Reddit you could go to /r/Firefox and be almost guaranteed that that was the main place that people interested in Firefox would congregate. If you started scrolling, you’d see pretty much everything that anyone posted. For bigger subs there generally was one place to go to find that content.
While here, I could be on .world and see some stuff, but then I’d have to go to .ml or some other instance to see other stuff. Then you’ve got almost duplicate posts on different instances.
It’s just kind of messy. You can’t be on .world Firefox community and also see posts from the many other Firefox communities on the other instances, at least if you can I don’t know how you do it.
Sure, you can view all and see everything from everywhere, but that’s literally everything from everywhere, not just Firefox related stuff.
Don’t get me wrong, I like it here, and it’s good to have a potential viable alternative to Reddit. I’m just not sure how it’s going to catch on with Joe Public unless there is a way to tie the same/similar communities from different instances into the one view while still keeping them separate.
I see what you’re saying, yeah you have to subscribe to the different instances of it which isn’t very intuitive if you don’t know you need to do that.
I think some of the app developers are working on solutions or multi subscribe though for communities.
It would be nice if there was a way to group communities across instances so you can view them all at the same time. I would love to create an “Android” group that has all the different Android, Google and Google Pixel communities on one page.
Major software foundations like Mozilla, and other large institutions, should be hosting their own instance and have official communities. Even on silos like Reddit, you’d have several alternate subs for the same topic. Before multis were a thing, it was in the same boat.
I would like to see instance features like “see this story in x other communities” links for reposted link posts though.
This would be awesome. I followed nws on Twitter for my local area and wish they would migrate elsewhere, esp now that you have to log in. I follow via rss now but am not sure if or when that will be taken away.
It doesn’t help that Firefox will still be at different places with different contents. They should do something about user experience. It’s very confusing for non tech savvy people.
I go on Reddit for one sub and one sub only. Other than that, I don’t care about the site. Notifications are blocked and I’ve hidden my bookmarks from myself.
You should check out this tool then
https://rdx.overdevs.com/subreddit.html?r=all
Reddit without all the bullshit and mobile friendly
Just a blank page for me…
Same, but the one sub is my profile to delete whatever decides to show up on that day…! Sucks not being able to control your own data easily - but I understand why they’d engineer it this way.
I use old.reddit and will continue to use it. However, since they killed 3rd party apps. I no longer use reddit Apollo on my phone. If they eventually kill old.reddit. That will be when I stop desktop usage.
Shhhh dont give them any ideas
They already said they won’t remove old
You know, like they said API pricing would be reasonable.
Count your days
I go on for the worldnews & the uk subs they don’t seem to be impacted too much but I’ve not seen the need since the uptick in traffic on lemmy
To be honest, when I was back there yesterday I missed Lemmy. I either had forgotten about the amount of toxicity that is over there, or it has gotten worse because of all of the issues.
Yeah it feels like a lot of the moderate voices jumped to lemmy or other alternatives which has allowed the toxic users to surge.
Also mods largely abandoned their posts so toxic stuff is ever more now.
or it has gotten worse because of all of the
issuesbots trying to direct a narrative.I gotchu.
Thanks, autocorrect must have gotten me again
I mean, the toxicity is definitely noticeably higher. I’d bet good money that it’s a direct result of tons of mods just going “fuck this noise” after having basically all of their 3rd party moderation tools turned off.
Ok, just went there. My home is full of smaller subs reposting old high-quality stuff. I could even mistake that for good activity if I haven’t seen it already.
Popular is full of useless shit… so no visible impact.
I guess one has to subscribe to the correct subs to see the implosion.
Im still using my custom app patched with my own API key. But it’s slowly not becoming worth it with most of the smaller subs I follow only having 1 or 2 posts in the last week. Opposed to the 2 or 3 posts per day.
They also haven’t actually kicked off third party clients for mods. If you moderate any sub (even just create a private sub now) and the client didn’t purposely kill their own API key (Apollo and RIF did I believe) it will still work even without the patch.
It’s getting pretty bad though. With most people who were truly pro-protest gone, average sentiment is “oh well protest failed let’s get back to normal”. I was pretty heavily downvoted in the Ask Historians meta thread about next steps for suggesting the mods/experts were fairly irreplaceable and they should look to move content off of reddit to their own site.
no… rif does not work for me anymore since july 5…
I think they were saying that RIF and Apollo nuked their own API keys, so they specifically will never work
There’s a way to patch Apollo with your own API key to make it work. A single user shouldn’t exceed their free rate limit.
Are you having to pay for those API calls?
Unless they changed their minds, personal use isn’t going to hit the requests per minute required to trigger needing to pay.
there is i think a personal key that stays on a one user basis within the free limit. From my knowledge reddit claims it as illegal but it still works
Why would it be illegal? That’s literally what the key is made for: to make API requests from the app you wrote.
If anybody could deny you from doing that, it’s the author of the app that you patched and I’m pretty sure, they don’t give a shit anymore.
Dude, tell me more about your custom app.
Take this as an opportunity to talk as much as you want about it. That sounds fascinating.
Request your own API key from Reddit stating you’re an app developer, then use revanced manager to inject that key into any custom Reddit app.
You can actually decompile any android app into smali code which is kind of a readable bytecode. Create an OAuth app on reddit and replace the developer’s API key with your own. Free reddit app with no ads.
I only joined Lemmy yesterday and I plan on using both for now but this site and app are already a so much better experience without ads and everything loads lightning fast. And then I open reddit and I have to look at the spinning circle everytime I click on something. For some reason, it’s even worse on desktop. That shit feels so unresponsive.
I used Boost which was a freaking awesome app. I flat out refuse to use Reddits own app because it sucks monkey balls!
I’m a bit skeptical of Lemmy though since lot of subs aren’t that active.
The dev for Boost is making an app for Lemmy.
I tried to give the official app a shot after using Boost for years. Absolutely no customization options other than light/dark theme, ads everywhere, different interface for video comments, and it drained my battery. Felt so good to uninstall.
Start posting. Really. I’ve been posting to keep communities I like going and others have started posting too. It’s slow growth, but the more content a community has, the more people will sub to it and eventually post to. Anyway, that’s my opinion.
So what you’re saying is we need people to browse threads and post random comments that probably won’t be read?
My time has come.
Our hero :)
I’ve found that if you make the first comment it breaks the ice and more follow
One of us! One of us!
One of us, one of us
Gooble gobble. Gooble gobble.
ArOOOOga!
If you’re gonna use both for now, I would recommend downloading an ad blocker. AdGuard and ublock origin (the word origin is important, there is a knockoff called ublock) are both good. It was greed that motivated Reddit to pull this shit, might as well deny them ad revenue.
Do these actually work for Reddits android app? I’ve tried a few blockers over the years including adguard and I don’t think any have stopped these ads because they’re coming from Reddit like a normal post
I was looking into patching the reddit app with revamped manager. That might be able to help you. I decided to just leave reddit entirely.
I never knew it was a knockoff! I always thought it was just an inferior version but still them! TIL about people stealing the name of a free ad blocker (presumably) for profit 🤦
There’s a bit more history to it than that. The developer of uBlock wanted to walk away from the project and found some people to manage it instead. The first thing they did was strip out the developer’s name and start appeals for donations (note they haven’t actually done anything productive yet). This pissed off the original developer so much he came back but had to rename his version to ‘uBlock Origin’.
Good thing you didn’t join 10 days ago then, you would have uninstalled instantly 😀
The difference is that this is an open source community driven effort. Reddit is a for profit business. On that basis, I give Lemmy a lot more leeway when it comes to bugs. Reddit just turned into a slog over the last few years BECAUSE they try to monetize it to death.
I joined Lemmy about a month ago and left Reddit. I already new that it was still a work in progress so I was fully prepared for the inevitable hiccups. It’s already come so far in just a month! Apps are coming along nicely and everything is working pretty smoothly (besides the recent hacking situation). I really hope it continues to grow and thrive.
I just checked it out. LOL no they aren’t. Reddit is still thriving.
yeah, it’s some pretty serious copium to think reddit was massively affected by the protests. Sadly, they were not
but all I can do is leave and enjoy lemmy so fuck em
Several subs that I frequented are gone. The biggest pain to me is probably caused by the loss of Transcribers for Reddit. The group behind it basically disbanded at the end of june.
Same. One vote may not be much but I’m not the only one who nuked a decade old account and will not be returning.
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100% same
Yeah so there is still a lot of activity. However, >2000 subs are still dark, 18 others have gone full john oliver and many more are less moderated than before. BotDefense are leaving. So it’s definitely not that nothing out of the ordinary is going on, although I think that is exactly experience that reddit as a company tries to give you when you visit the site.
Eitherway, I am a lemming now and very happy to be here and not there.
Yeah, I’m happy to be here too. Here’s to the future 🥂
Exactly! Last I checked, sure there was a lot of activity BUT as you said, many subs are still dark. The major subs that reopened with new moderation have definitely had a major dip (imo) in quality. I was still seeing John Oliver everywhere. They did use quite a few users, maybe not enough for them to flinch too hard but, how active were those users? I consider my old account there a “power comment account” I rarely posted but was extremely active in the threads, spending hours each day replying to comments of my inbox, so much so that I rarely even viewed actual content. Makes me wonder, how many accounts like mine did they lose? Many just lurked. The comment sections were fueled by active commenters and imo it wouldn’t take losing too many like me for the threads to take a noticeable hit.
Anyway I don’t care much about how it is over there rn, just glad I have this place so I don’t have to support that platform in any way. Plus now that I’ve found a cool app, jerboa or whatever it’s quite enjoyable! Connect and liftoff are also great but my phone doesn’t play well with many apps.
I occasionally open RIF just to see if it’s still working which it is but it doesn’t let me login, meaning I can only access the front page of /r/all and man, it is abysmal. The content there doesn’t even motivate me to stay there any longer than for a quick glance, lol. Tbf, if I open old.reddit on PC while logged in (which I now almost never do and I haven’t posted anything there since June 31), it is better but it still doesn’t feel completely the same. Plenty of subs still missing, some other that I didn’t use to see much are now more present instead, and then there’s /r/videos which still requires profanity in titles but now also, hilariously, only allows text transcripts of videos with no link to them.
only allows text transcripts of videos with no link to them
That was my favorite protest twist. I’ve only checked back to see that my ~2000 comments remained edited/deleted (they are). Otherwise, I am fine moving away just as I did with Digg. It’s a new experience and it’s just fine. I do agree that the niche subs are probably what keep drawing folks back there. It’ll take time to curate those elsewhere.
I had no idea /r/videos was doing that. Hilarious.
Yup. Just like Spez predicted. The site is maybe less popular, but it will survive. The protests will die off eventually. The Reddit clones will never be as popular and active as Reddit once was. Maybe eventually the investers and advertisers will return, and it will be seen in hindsight as a smart move. The quality of the content may take a drop, but it was a calculated risk of making it more profitable.
The real problem was always a lack of alternatives imo. A “protest” can’t work on the website you’re literally using. What should have happened is those people all moved to another platform, but there isn’t one. There isn’t one canonical alternative to reddit, so they had to “protest” there.
I mean, a priest didn’t have to leave the platform if it hits the ad revenue, which things like going NSFW have reportedly done.
The Reddit clones will never be as popular and active as Reddit once was.
They used to say the same kind of things about Digg.
It was a pretty safe bet. Most of the people on this planet don’t give a shit about principles or corporate hostilities so long as they get what they want.
It drives me nuts!
I wouldn’t call reddit thriving given that its flagship r/iama is now completely dead as a result of the mods packing up and saying that they will no longer do the work of verification or soliciting celebrities anymore. One of the biggest draws to the site historically as well as consistently producing positive media.
Ironically enough, these Reddit clone instances are now obsolete ghost towns. The ”protest” failed and most people don’t want to post on knockoff Reddit when the real thing is right there. The more focused instances will survive with a small, dedicated userbase, but there’s zero chance any of these will take Reddit’s place. The Beehaw losers wanted so badly to be the new Reddit too, lmao.
Oooh, there are Reddit clones? I’d love to check one out! Surely if they’re cloning code or outright copying something proprietary, they’d get shut down immediately though right?
You’re on one right now. Don’t know if you’re joking or not, but no idea how anyone could get the idea from my comment that it was about instances that literally clone Reddit.
Content aggregators existed before reddit and they’ll continue to exist after. A community for shitposts is not unique to reddit.
This. Facebook has heaps of meme posting groups with millions of members.
Content is slowing drastically, r/all isn’t updating for most of the day from low engagement, reddit uses a differential for upvotes which doesn’t reflect total users well.
I agree, I studied abroad with a 12 hour difference and during the day there, when I browsed Reddit, most of the posts were lower quality because most people were asleep. (Sorry euro peeps)
It’s when the evening came that the posts picked up quality and engaged me.
Now that I’m stateside, I feel like Reddit posters are completely and perpetually asleep (or just gone).
It’s really wild to see reposts over and over. Like some Redditbot constantly spamming the same thing hoping to get some traction going for conversation.
Ahahahah we know.
Best regards,
Yurop
reddit uses a differential for upvotes
ELI5? I’m genuinely interested - just wonder what this means? I’d always assumed +1 on a post meant 1 user clicking the “upvote” button.
That was changed years ago
It’s some sort of weird percentage once you get past a certain number. I’m fuzzy on the numbers but 1.2k upvotes shown on the website was worth a different amount than actual. Something like 1.5k = 1.2k upvotes for your personal karma.
I am not reddit geek so TIL
They “fuzz,” votes, and it starts after only 10 or so. It will return a value within 10% or so of the true vote. It is to obfuscate the totals to make it harder for bot accounts to tell if they are shadowbanned or not.
I don’t “like” that it got this bad, but I do like that the worse things get, the more we can collectively organize and pressure reform to fix these things.
It’d be great to see a true social revolution take place in my lifetime. Social for the sake of social, not controlled by a single corporation with a business model that’s designed to exploit its users.
This already exists it’s called face to face communication. You can do it in private spaces like living rooms or bars. You can also find public spaces like parks and transit. If you’re shy look into activities related to hobbies.
Love it or hate it, the reality is that the genie ain’t goin back into the bottle.
So might as well make sure that genie is nice and friendly, open source, portable, interoperable, non-manipulative, and non-threatening.
Yup the fediverse is the best it’s been since social media consolidated online discussion and independent forums faded away. I still strongly suggest developing relationships within your real world community because it is very easy to be deceived and exploited online even if the technology isn’t doing it intentionally.
Yeah, just let me head over to the local 20k-member community for a mobile game that hasn’t been updated in 5 years real quick. You know, the one that every city has.
I haven’t been not on reddit but my time on the site cratered July 1.
If you’re still using Reddit, please be a homie and spread the fediverse gospel
Hallelujah!!
notes to self:
- no, that did not say “hornie”
- check system font settings on this computer
- maybe start a c/keming
I wonder if r/keming used to say “Currently 300 hornie online”
also FUCK yeah markdown
I will. But I do want to say that it’s my personal opinion, that yes, we definitely should grow as a community with more reddit refugees, but I don’t think it’s a bad thing to grow relatively slowly. On the technological side, we need the infrastructure growth to match the user base growth. Maybe even more importantly, I think most of us will agree we want to take the good of reddit with us, but definitely not the toxicity. Copy pasting the whole user base to the fediverse could lead to also copy pasting the culture that exists over there now. The thing I most enjoy on Lemmy is definitely the general vibe over the content for now, and that is pretty special on the Internet.
Also, we don’t necessarily need a big userbase. Just a good active one. More is not necessarily better in my opinion.
Smaller is also much more manageable.
We don’t need to be REDDIT big but…ayo you people need to post more so i can scroll an unhealthy amount all day.
Also, we don’t necessarily need a big userbase. Just a good active one. More is not necessarily better in my opinion.
Unfortunately, the main benefit of having a large userbase is that you can always find a community for any obscure interest you have! That’s not really the case with lemmy now.
Absolutely, I would be happy if we stayed where we are on the main subs with niche ones growing a bit. Game specific subs are still pretty barren with most of the content being three or four people. I could use some of that growth for sure.
A few hundred comments and consistent uploads are all I think we really need to keep chugging along.
The only thing I’m missing so far is the diversity. I used to follow lots of different ‘Ask’ subs for countries and regions around the world, and some others for different communities. So far I haven’t seen that here.
I like the collective ‘we’ makes me feel all warm and federated inside.
Bluesky is super-fun right now, because it’s got just enough folks to generate varied content, and everyone is playing ball on the same level.
Bluesky is proprietary garbage, not free and with limited access.
If we want to be free we have an alternative to twitter/bluesky called nostr.
Let’s not encourage golden cages and we won’t have to regret it later when the obvious happens.
The nostr community reminds me a lot of the current state of lemmy, I hope with the growth of both communities it doesn’t get lost.
And that’s largely because they’ve kept it invitation-only, so the users are all approximately simpatico. That can’t last though. Eventually they’ll have to open it up and let in the shills, the grifters and the racist uncles.
Every day of people still using Reddit is a day when a portion of humanity’s ability to communicate is controlled by one psychopath.
