people are saying such shitty things about me. ill probably delete this, but can some of my comrades just give me a pep talk if your up to in. I know logically I love this place and this is a bad day, but I cant stop crying, i do so much work going out, doing mutual aid, supporting union drives, working with the dsa and psl ect and it doesn’t fucking matter because as soon as I vent about the class of people who are giving me a hard time IM somehow stopping racial solidarity from happening. it hurts so bad and makes everything feel so pointless. i feel so disposable. im not gonna debate anyone i just want to chat with nice comrades who care. im actually crying hard over internet shit maybe its my sign to leave.
edit: THANK YOU for the out pouring of love comrade, here, in my dms, and on cytube. I LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH. I will be staying. I will be taking a break after this sundays fanon post (its the last one and BEST chapter hope i can see you there) but I shall return even more powerful than before. you guys are amazing thank you again to everyone committed to making this a safe space for BIPOC people to express themselves.
To preface this: I am white.
To any white people who are even slightly upset about anti-white sentiment, ironic or unironic: you need to get the FUCK over yourself. Read The Wretched of the Earth, Open Veins of Latin America, How Europe Underdeveloped Africa, Divided World Divided Class, White Malice, Late Victorian Holocausts, Unequal Exchange, Neo-Colonialism, The Wages of Whiteness, and a thousand other books until it fucking sinks in.
Every “white” country on Earth (barring maybe a few of the most backward European states) is parasitic. All siphon wealth from the non-white world into the white world, both externally and internally. They then distribute this money, to a very large extent, on the basis of race.
This means that race is a factor in class. That’s why the most useless and anti-revolutionary tendencies of Communism all come out of Europe. You can see this fracture play out in every “white” nation. Even the “radical” white population breaks solidarity with the colonial population. White labor unions rejecting PoC, white Communist parties failing to grasp the race question and behaving chauvinistically, white “radicals” turning against anti-colonial fighters.
In light of this history, this class dynamic, and the ongoing racial depravity, to chide PoCs for “undermining solidarity” is the height of arrogance and chauvinism. Get the fuck over yourself. Unless you want to hand over the 90% of your material comfort that you owe to the accident of your place of birth and skin color, shut the fuck up.
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sorry i didnt respond to your question by the way i was overwhelmed and exhausted, and you seemed good faith if naive. I dont actually hate individual white people I hate the concept of whiteness and what white people have done to me collectively as a group. I dont want to hurt white babies, i dont want to hurt anyone but the bourgeoisie. I do absolutely want remove white peoples ability to oppress anyone and that will take violence. violence is the medicine, the treatment to the illness that is white supremacy. I dont LIKE taking medicine but I want and need it. also yes when i say fuck white people I am venting, not calling for anything. im a human not a perfect political tool-thing. you seem mostly based and cool (i see you around) so i have no problem continuing this convo if you have more questions. lastly most poc in america talk like this among friends, perhaps my mistke was growing too comfortable on here.
edit mods got ya, perhaps you weren’t good faith lol. idk i dont feel like hunting through the modlog .
I appreciate the response and I feel like I understand the reasoning much better now.
I take things too literally, and am terrible at reading tone, hence my earlier confusion.
I should not have spoken up in ignorance and I apologize for any hurt I caused by doing so. I am blinded by my own biases and I promise I will try to break them over time.
I did get banned but I will just do my best to learn from that experience and move on.
we did unban your account
i messaged the mods to hopefully get you unbanned. I dont think you are a bad person. also dont take this the wrong way but i thought to my self while reading your comments “this seems like an extremely sheltered white boy who doesnt understand poc humor/expression at all. eh hes seem sheltered ill respond when I have the energy”. no harm done other then moderate irritation. i hope you get unbanned and if not good luck out there maybe you can just use this account.
And that’s barely even touching on anything superstructural. Given this apparent material base of white parasitism, it’s obvious to see why we live in the world of white supremacy that we do. White people have identified, on a conscious or unconscious level, that they effectively constitute a class. The disdain, domination, disgust, discrimination, and disregard that nobles manifest toward their serfs can be seen in the way white people treat PoCs.
Given all this, both the morally correct and “historically progressive” position are the same. To bring about global revolution, we must attack the systems of Imperialism, Neo-Colonialism, and Unequal Exchange that have kept the Global South oppressed and the Global North content, and the system of racism that harms and exploits internal colonial populations. Compradors will lose their control, Imperialists will be unable to muster the resources they need for dominance, and white people will suddenly feel quite a lot of urgency in finding an alternative to Capitalism.
To /u/Othello: you’re very cool, I hope you stick around, and I’m sorry for hijacking your post. I hope it’s an acceptable subject and perspective.
I’m sorry for hijacking your post
dont you dare apologize for this excellent comment. bravo.
I’ve been reading through the last few days of posts. Fuck those fuckers Othello. You’re one of the coolest posters here, and I’m sorry you had to put up with such repeated caucasity without a single PPB to back you up.
thank you. i was shocked by the amount of support they were getting. youre cool too, I think ill come join for movie night tonight, I love my movie buds.
im supposed to be reading and I cant even focus.
I haven’t seen anybody going at you so I’m sure I must have missed it. Every one of your posts and comments I’ve read I’ve found to be informative. Your perspective is cool and good and welcome, fuck the haters.
you make me feel so cool and appreciated, thank you. fuck the haters ♥️
lmao just found the thread where you got heat, i’m a snow roach and I think you didn’t say anything wrong
Logging off can be good yeah. Take care of yourself.
im gonna log off now!
to everyone else leaving nice comments thank you. I love you comrades truly. yall are making me feel better, and i really appreciate every nice comment, they mean a lot.
to every :LIB: upset at you discussing whiteness:
also I hope you reported all those crackers so the mods nuke their asses
ive personally really enjoyed seeing all of your contributions and i feel like you are genuinely trying to make this site a nicer place. idk what went down but id be sad to see you go
it’ll probably be good to take a break for bit, which is always nice in its own way. this should be a place where you enjoy spending your time and if that’s not happening you should be doing those things instead
idk what went down
I said i hate white people after reading some of the most heinous modern day nazi shit imaginable. and now people are saying things like (im paraphrasing so i dont have to unblock people)
“this person is probably white” they said that after someone told them I was not white. “othello is whats stopping racial solidarity” “Othello believes the same things that nazis believe” “why do you want to hurt white people othello” shit like that. like im actually being compared to the people who want me dead. why? because check notes RECOGNIZE RACE AS A REAL THING THAT EFFECTS MY LIFE
i think youre right im gonna try to step back, maybe just hang out in cytube till i feel better.
Any white who can’t handle the meager amount of criticism that is provided by you and this forum will fall in line with the fascists the moment they get pushback from libs. Just anti-communists in the making. Fuck them.
Yep, extremely thin skin that will inevitably get scratched. There was a mini struggle session near me because a chinese restaurant said that white people were ordering wrong, as in this is an entree that’s not an entree. Just incredible stuff lol.
Sorry you’re going through all this crap. I think I remember your comment, and it didn’t seem out of line at all.
Other “races” don’t need to have racial solidarity with us Cum Skins, its the other fucking way around. We gotta realize, even if we aren’t directly responsible with out own fucking hands, its not their job to support “white” people. Its the white’s duty to support them in their causes and liberation.
white people who have only ever talked to other white people when they hear somebody talking be like: sounds white to me
take care of yourself
mayb do something to feel a bit special and nice today <33white fragility should be ban-on-sight. this fucking hurts to read.
I’m so sorry you had this thrown at you othello, we don’t interact much but you’re probably the nicest hexbear I know of
That concern trolling piece of shit that dared to smear their liberal digits over Thomas Sankara’s words has me pissed off that many hours later.
I can relate to that, some people here immediately turn into incredibly shitty giga libs when their privilege is being called out. As a white girl i lack firsthand experience with the racial side of that, so i’m not gonna judge how widespread that behavior is, but i know how various forms of reactionary liberalism go together and how super fucking fragile a few of the cishet dudes on here get when queer women dare to bring up their perspective in ways that question the role of straight men in the patriarchy. It’s not hard to imagine that they act the same way when confronted with their mayonaisity. As marginalized comrades, we’re only supposed to assure these libs that they are actual leftists completely innocent in systemic opression, not call out where they need to do self crit. It’s the usual shit where members of dominant society ask us for absolution instead of our honest opinion. I hope you stick around, i always enjoy reading your posts, i love that they make this site a little less painfully crackerish, and i think we just need to keep going and confront these people with uncomfortable truths, because this site is a place where that can actually gain traction and lead to people learning and improving.
thanks acidsmiley, i know youve sure as hell have been there. youre right, ive been working hard to decracker this place and i cant let the bastards get me down. i shall rest and recover and emerge stronger than ever.
experts are researching a new Othello they believe could be 2-3x more powerful
You’re the best Othello
Yep. Racists get out. Fuck white people doesn’t mean hate for individuals with white skin, it means hate for the society of racism that white people are in charge of. And even if is the first one, so fucking what? There’s no harm done by it. There’s no KKK or cops or Nazis enforcing black supremacy. It might be hurtful to hear “fuck white people” , but it isn’t harmful unlike white racism that gets people killed.
Dominant society always struggles to get that being systemically opressed isn’t the same as being bullied. Bullies who call them cracker or who want to guillotine all transphobes or who call for the immediate castration of all cishet men do not have the full force of a centuries-old system of violence that is seamlessly integrated into bourgeois rulership behind them to back us up. We’re just some person on the internet calling them names, names that have never been used in society-wide, decades-long campaigns of demonization, that have never been part of systematic ostracism from normal everyday life, that have never been used to drive campaigns of extermination against their kind, that do not have a lifetime of accumulating, society-wide, inescapable aggression and trauma behind them.
And they will never be able to understand that, because nothing they have experienced personally comes even close to that. Because their mere right to exist has never been called into doubt. You can tell them a thousand times “no, i’ve been bullied myself, discrimination is different” or “i’ve been attacked for a chosen identity like being a leftist or being vegan, and that’s gross and unfair, but it’s not the same as transphobia or racism because at least it’s a consequence of my actions and a part of a political struggle i’ve chosen to take a side in” or “i never had to fear for my life for being white, or for being German, or for being seen as a straight dude, these just aren’t marginalized indentities”, they never understand.
Because they’re fucking libs who have accepted the parts of liberalism that make it an inherently exclusionary, discriminatory, deeply violent system by pretending that it treats all humans as equals when it verifyably doesn’t. Liberal egalitarianism is a threat to my life, and to the lifes of all my black and brown comrades, and these fuckers go out of their way to prove me correct on this.
All the hate to those haters. Other people unable to contend with their personal contradictions is not your fault and you’ve handled yourself remarkabley despite the recent stream of piss and shid from people who don’t know the first thing about you. I see you, hear you, and appreciate your presence and posts. Hexbear has a lot of positive things going for it, but stuff like this shows how white it still is. I can only say that as a honkey who has had to do a lot of personal work and self-crit about what that means.
- thanks i really appreciate it. im trying not to just say fuck you cracker to all of them and to let my comrades handle them. yall make shit better, my favorite white people lol.
Hey comrade Othello, I heard from another comrade that the white people on Hexbear are being weird again and directing that toward you. I don’t know what happened but I just wanted to say that you are not crazy and you’re not alone.
I’ve gotten into fights with other Chapos that have left me feeling betrayed and crying and I want to say it’s really embarrassing for these “allies”. If they are declaring themselves allies should know better.
The things I’ve heard them say are despicable and I expect better from people that dare to call themselves anarchists, communists or allies.
Much love from a comrade,
Othello must not go. 
(really could use some more “hug” emojis)i think your posts on this site have all been great and make the site better, screw those people and their white fragility, its good to take a break from the site sometimes, i hope your day gets better
Sounds like some libs need purging. Are they @ signs?
Unfortunately the liberalism was coming from inside the house on this one.
Fuck.
Looking at the modlog a couple of Hexbears were involved, and got their comments removed but not banned
wtf
i couldnt really tell, but the thread started because @ user reported Othellos(name was blanked out but i guess it was Othello) comment as racism. so yea, of course it started with an @ moron, as it tends to.
Fucking lemmy libs.
I would really miss you. Yours is one of the first usernames I started recognizing, because I always love your posts and comments. I think you’re wonderful. 💗
You’re extremely cool and we’re happy to have you in this space. It blows that people are being shit about things and I will continue to ban and timeout dipshits in my part of this space. You are always welcome here and I appreciate your posts.
I will continue to ban and timeout dipshits
You have the power to ZA WARUDO dipshits?
When I whap them with the
I can input a number of days. I like just putting a lot of 9s and seeing how many years it bans them.
We need to be doing TC69 thought to protect our bipoc users as much as we do our queer users. Some of the shit said in that thread was just not ok. Not good faith question asking at all.
I’m so tired of leftist spaces that go hard on trans liberation, but are happy to throw other minorities under the bus.
