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Has he bought Reddit yet?
Can’t wait to find out he spent/lost $2B so he wouldn’t have to pay Google $1B
Delicious!
Im enjoying the shit show Elon is providing. It’s definitely entertaining watching a “genius” at work.
It’s so fucking funny how Twitter and Reddit are imploding on the exact same day lmao.
End-of-quarter. Companies often make decisions quarter by quarter and 6/30 was the last day of Q2.
I always forget how important quarters are in the business world.
50 Cent’s success as a business man suddenly starts making a lot more sense, eh?
I work in financial reporting. Hard thing for me to forget. Our stuff could suffer literal days long outages and like 99% of our clients wouldn’t care. But when a quarter rolls around? We need like 99.9999999% uptime through it.
I swear quarters are the only time C level people are doing any sort of work.
Yeah, You’d think they would care more about WHOLE dollars!
…I’ll just let myself out
Companies would rather cut their noses of in the end of a quarter, to claim a weight loss, than do something that would spell positive results for its lifetime…
I, and many others, truly believe it is deliberate and orchestrated, primeraly to shut down the likes of r/superstonk and other subs that are fighting wall street corruption.
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This is not “Another theory”. This is a great discription of what wall street are doing. It has the added bonus of keeping even you, someone with there eyes open, distracted and not seeing how the Banks, hedge funds and “market makers” are running the show.
They have built a system to take all the money from the people and provide nothing in return.
They control majority shares in all the major news outlets and control the narrative.
If one person’s looks at this and checks our DRSGME.COM it will be worth it. (or read the endless DD in r/superstonk but as I’m here I don’t really wanna encourage anyone to go to reddit, fuck spez)
Buy DRS & Book GME then HODL (repeat where possible 😁, see you on the moon)
I have 4 GME and not DRS… I live in Denmark. Would it be worth it to DRS?
100%. If they are not in your name your broker can and do lend them (to short against us) also more importantly they can and will sell them whenever they want for any price. Then claim it was for your own safety due to it being a volatile stock. If it’s not in your name (DRS’d) then you do not own it.
Just checked, and it’ll cost me about 3 times the worth of the 4 stocks I have. Not exactly a sound investment when I’m not looking to get more.
Hold
Hodl
Spez did say Musk’s Twitter was something to be admired and emulated lol
They seem really aligned in their goals then!
You mean he finally did something right? 🤣
Regardless of whether you mean Musk or Spez: no. He did not do anything right. Probably hasn’t for years.
two peas in a pod
Not to sound paranoid, but it’s kind of worrying.
In recent years, these sites have been used to pass information quickly during crisis. This can be anything like natural disaster, or uprising and protests.
These big aggregators being incompetently, mismanaged and taken down from public use at the same time, makes me wonder if it’s an attempt to quash communication that’s not coming from a government or mega-corp.
The revolution will not be televised… by the people.
Yeahhhh, I’ve been getting less news information since moving to Lemmy. The communities are here, but they have some growing to do.
And then there’s the issue of them growing into the correct servers. For example, my first day here I caught a mod on lemmy.ml banning a user for posting an Axios article about China on World News because “Orientalism”. The article was a pretty common western take on the Xi Xinping succession plan. Really nothing uniquely anti-China. That especially raises eyebrows given the many conversations had about Lemmy’s communist roots from its devs.
Which isn’t to say Lemmy as a whole is tainted - just the dev community, lemmy.ml. So I ethically feel the need to avoid their World News community and only use lemmy.world’s World News community, but that places me into an even smaller and more split community, giving me even less information. All I can think is that I need to be the change I want to see and intentionally post to/comment on the lemmy.world World News community.
You should try Mastodon for news, it does a better job of it currently. I think lemmy will step up soon but it’s not there yet.https://assortedflotsam.com/@NewsBot/
Is reddit actually imploding or is it just business as usual?
It’s too early to tell but I’m spending more time on Lemmy.
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I’ve been wondering. I’m not giving them the satisfaction of getting the traffic so I can check, but who knows, really.
for me it’s been a slow process to transfer my reddit addiction to lemmy, so i’m still somewhat on there, but it’s nowhere close to what it has been like before the protests. a lot of my communities are still closed, others have reopened but there’s a noticeably lower volume.
reopen/stay closed discussions also show an interesting pattern of skewing more and more towards reopen the longer they go on, suggesting that the people who want reddit to stay closed have left, which is consistent with how the rest of the platform feels.
i doubt that many lurkers have seen the same effect yet (in fact, i noticed a pattern with the people expressing support for reopen, that they rarely comment at all, so my guess is the lurkers heavily favor reopening) but we’ll likely see a delayed effect in their numbers and/or engagement as well, as the content they’re supplied gets fewer and lower quality.
It comes down to finances, right? Hard to tell what those currently look like, but I read that their evaluation estimate dropped by something like 7% to 5,5 billion USD in recent time.
That was as of May 31st, before any of the drama. So it’s too soon to tell what the impact was from June’s events.
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Depends on where you go.
Subs like r/worldnews and r/tech have bottom of the barrel comments, but still manage to get some posts.
r/IAmA had many of the mods leave, so the remaining ones are stopping all “out of Reddit” activities, like recruiting celebrities, verifying identities, and so on. It’s pretty much worthless now.
Small niche subs are still working, but the equivalent communities on Lemmy are getting better quality right now.
Worldnews has always skewed a little to the right but the comments I read on a post about the immigrants drowning absolutely disgusted me
I was wrongly banned from that place three years ago for posting a comment that was critical of how Saudi Arabia and other conservative Middle Eastern nations treat women. I’d say they’re far from a right-wing place.
There have been some posts where the comments have been 100% memes and off-topic.
IMHO the strongest point of news aggregators like Reddit, is the extra information that isn’t in the linked article, otherwise there is no benefit over an RSS feed reader.
There are also probably many bot answers now at the top.
A few subs like r/news, r/leagueoflegends and r/worldnews crossed the picket line without so much as acknowledging the blackout.
Most of my favorite smaller communities on Reddit (50-500k members) are gone permanently. A couple of them were basically forums run by a niche YouTuber with a couple of helper mods, to talk about topics related to their channel. Those people didn’t want to deal with trying to use Reddit anymore, so they just closed down. It’s basically impossible to bring a community like that back, when the person it exists around is gone.
I don’t see Reddit stepping in for all of those smaller communities, so they’re just gone entirely. And that was where most of the value was for me. So yeah, its completely worthless to me at this point to even use Reddit.
Out of curiosity, what app are you using to post with? I notice that your comment posted three times.
I’m on lemmy.world and jerboa seems to constantly log me out after a relatively short period of time. I’ve also switched to lift off and that seems to be a bit better. Just as many errors but I don’t need to back all the way out to log in again all the time
Try wefwef.app!
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First, watching what’s going on with Twitter is like you’re in a roundabout and there’s a giant car crash right in the middle of the roundabout, and all you need to do is just keep on going around and around and you keep keep on watching it as it keeps getting worse. Lmfao
On the other hand, I can totally understand why he’s batting at hornet’s nests. He’s got to find a way to make that crappy investment somehow profitable. Yeah, you can do whatever you want with unlimited resources, but he’s dealing with multiple new realities where Twitter actually needs to figure out how to run as a business instead of as a political charity.
Twitter was profitable before Elon.
Not really. It might have had a profitable quarter or a profitable year now and again, but overall it was a highly unprofitable company almost every year it was public. That was before the current moment where ad rates have collapsed on every platform which is why many other companies which depend on advertising have been suffering at the same time.
Besides Twitter, a lot of ad reliant businesses are in big trouble this year.
Sounds like you’re making assumptions. And I’m telling you that it was profitable before purchase. It doesn’t matter where it would be today or where they were before being profitable because both of those things aren’t relevant.
find a way to make that crappy investment somehow profitable
With this sudden, reckless implementation of shit, alienating more and more of the very user base that gives the business its’ value?
He’s created a cascade effect that didn’t need to turn into an avalanche, at this point he’s just piling one half-baked idea on top of another, and another, and another.
Unless the petty goal is to turn that place into a toxic right-wing playground, which in turn… what does he gain from that, exactly, in case it works out and has a societal/electoral effect? Lower taxes and less oversight, so he can do as he pleases?Occam’s Razor suggests his mind is broken by stress, willful lack of sleep and social media addiction - the attention of millions of both haters and worshippers - incompetently “getting high on his own supply” like Tony Montana, and went into this convinced his shit doesn’t stink. And now flailing at the lack of success and here comes A.I. with its’ scrapers.
You’ll never hear me disagreeing with the concept that Elon Musk is a guy with big problems.
Just look at the variety of broken promises at all his companies. The guy is a snake oil salesman, and twitter is no different.
He happened to win on the stock market roulette wheel, but his barely profitable car company didn’t have to be the thing that pulls in all the extra liquidity in the system – it could have just as easily been something completely different.
Worst part is that Twitter won’t even be a toxic right-wing playground, because one of the patented Elon Musk broken promises he made was that twitter would become a free speech haven and it didn’t really. People are still getting banned regularly for non-illegal speech.
Algorithm driven social media seems to be scrambling the brains of the elites just as much as they scramble the brains of regular people.
What’s up with billionaires and not paying their bills?
with higher interest rates, it means they can’t get cheap loans, these companies will go under if the rates keep rising
I think it’s more that people who tend to be billionaires tend to also be kinda scummy people.
You dont make that kind of money being honest and empathetic. The most honest ppl I know that run businesses are barely paying themselves. There’s a reason CEOs have higher than normal representation of psychopaths. It allows them to make the best decisions even if it means running the orphan killing machine 24/7.
I think you mean the “most profitable in the next 3 months on average” decision. It certainly isn’t the best decision by any other metric.
Think I got rich by paying people?
This is so much more true than I think most people believe.
My husband and I have a small engine business, and I took a free “community entrepreneur bootcamp” class through the local university this spring in the hope that we might learn something helpful. Instead, I learned fun things like leaning on your customers’ fears as a marketing tactic (?? 😔🤦) and that the most prominent local accountant - brought in as an expert speaker by the university! - advises his clients to pay as little as possible as late as possible, and most appallingly, I’m not exaggerating, these are the actual words I heard this man say in front of a room full of people: “if one of your employees gets hurt at your business, it’s better for you to stand on their neck until they stop breathing than to call for help, because it’s so much easier and cheaper to settle a death claim then an injury.” And he actually said that it sounds like he’s joking but he’s not, this is his understanding of the situation.
I genuinely want to see the best in everyone, and I have never before had the experience of fantasizing about a person’s death while they were talking in front of me, and it was abhorrent and awful but also… Wtf? How do we even help someone who sees other people as expendable tools the way this person does?
What can we even do about people who not only don’t want to live up to their agreements and commitments, but are just straight up out to fuck everyone else over? How do we help/fix that?
If one of your employees gets hurt at your business, it’s better for you to stand on their neck until they stop breathing than to call for help, because it’s so much easier and cheaper to settle a death claim then an injury
That is because of regulations that pass the buck. If the US had public health care, and fines for negligence and OSHA violations, this wouldn’t be true. Public health care would be the best thing for small businesses because it removes the health insurance benefits and workers’ compensation issues completely. One big problem with the GOP is they are half right a lot, regulations are problematic, but not in the way they think. They take this half rightness and use it to do the wrong thing.
From a business standpoint I would never want to hire that accountant. If he openly talks about employees that way and being a bad customers to others he would probably also be a very bad supplier.
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This sounds like an unfortunate consequence of the evolutionary pressure that has been allowed to take place within humanity for the past ~150 years. Profit is more important than anything else. So of course you’ll have sociopathic “profit-above-all-else” mindsets among influential business figures.
It sounds very similar to when I was in seminary. They literally had classes on how to manipulate your audience. How to “use vocal patterns and body language to make yourself appear more sincere.”
People severely underestimate how many shitty people there are in this world (and even those who appear trustworthy) that would eat your firstborn to increase their net worth if it wasn’t illegal.
I read an article years ago that explained why so many people get “religious” feelings at big revival-type events at Six Flags, Carowinds, etc, even if they’re not particularly devout.
There’s a thing called respiratory alkalosis (essentially hyperventilation) which makes you light-headed and confused. At it’s really easy to trigger by making people stand up quickly, sing really hard, sit back down, stand up and cheer, etc.
That sounds interesting! Do you remember where you found it? I would love to read it.
I’ll try to look for it. It was a loooong time ago though.
I’m back! I couldn’t find the specific thing I read, but I found something probably better, an actual study published in Pubmed:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8871314/Statistical analyses showed that the psychological disposition during the religious worship experience speeds up the physiological responses, which was indicated by increases in HR [hear rate] and RR [respiratory rate]. Hence, the activation hypothesis was accepted, and the pacification hypothesis was rejected.
Thanks! You made my day, my good lemming.
The conclusion fits what you said earlier, and it is easy to see how this is probably used cynically for these cult bro events:
The first analysis was an exploration of the physiological data, where it was seen that HR and RR were significantly correlated. The values of how strongly the participants were able to focus on God were strongly associated with the intensity of the experience as well as with the physiological variables
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You don’t become a billionaire by being honest and spending your money.
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This is not a thoughtful reply. Hopefully Lemmy can do better. I dislike Elon more than most people, but just reading uninformed ragebait like this is exhausting. Yes his parents managed an emerald mine, no they weren’t that wealthy, and no it didn’t make a substantial impact on the source of his wealth.
Edit: most of his wealth originated from PayPal. Yes the money from the emerald mine helped him get to the US, and get an education. And it may have even helped him in his earlier career a bit. But it wasn’t like hundreds of millions of dollars that were just given to him like “here, go be rich!”.
So he basically had as much monetary benefit as an upper-middle-class kid in America. Not the same as the commenter I’m replying to who implied that Elon is only wealthy because of his parents wealth, which is just obviously wrong.
Just to be clear again, I think he’s a scumbag. BUT I don’t think we should blindly agree with something just because it fits our narrative… we should have intellectual curiosity for the truth. If anyone has any evidence that Elon received a substantial portion of his wealth from his parents’ emerald mine, please show that because I couldn’t find it.
Sources:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/11/17/elon-musk-emerald-mine/
https://people.com/human-interest/who-is-errol-musk-elon-musk-father/
his parents OWNED the mine lol
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? What’s your source that he received his billions of dollars from an emerald mine?
I don’t trust Elon as a source at all!
The parent comment literally said that he was a billionaire from inheriting an emerald mine. That’s patently untrue, and I’m curious why you disagree? Or what information you have that I’ve missed, looking at the sources I cited (which discuss the mine). I’m not doubting that the mine existed, or that it helped him get started at life.
Tesla is worth almost a trillion dollars. And Elon owns 23% of Tesla shares. So that’s ~200B right there alone. Then add in his shares of SpaceX. It’s clear that his wealth is directly tied to the shares he owns of Tesla skyrocketing, not from an emerald mine.
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Yeah, I marked it with edit to give more information, but the point was the same, I’m so confused. Just genuinely trying to act in good faith here
In this case I think he doesn’t understand cloud hosting at all, so he doesn’t see the cost making sense. If you don’t value something, the pricetag seems ridiculous and you won’t even consider paying it. He will probably realize the mistake eventually.
It’s ok guys, Elon told his engineers to just rewrite the stack, so all problems will go away!
Don’t worry, I read lex friedman offered his services, must be even better than before.
It’s probably the Tesla engineers he brought in who are doing that so it should go great. If you can build the best, self driving car in the world, building a little social network is easy peasy.
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Found Elons Lemmy account
Ahh there’s that rudeness I was missing from Reddit. Everyone being so nice was starting to feel twilight zone-y
Joined one day ago
To be fair most of us are pretty new.
It was nice while it lasted, wasn’t it?
Eternal September is early this year.
Tbf rabid Muskrat fans are pretty much everywhere
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Mine was in a joking/memey manner his was just toxic.
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the people who downvote for no apparent reason with no comment have showed up recently, too
Blocking them is easy though.
If we block all the tools, they can all howl into a void. Then their online world will be just like their real world.
And you have bad breath!
Also, your mom!
Meh, we have an opportunity to set a new tone and culture. Just power through the noise. I thoroughly enjoyed your post. Cheers!
Haven’t there been multiple reports of Musk refusing to pay a bunch of shit? Rent, that guy that was disabled and Musk explicitly fired him for it and then had to pay him millions per his contract, oracle for services.
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Yes, he’s refused to pay rent on Twitter HQ. Also got kicked out of their (empty) office in Boulder for not paying the rent.
“Could be”
😂
I mean it’s all speculation at this point. The guy isn’t honest and wouldn’t admit he brought down the whole site due to his hubris.
I think he can’t keep proper track of reality at a level where things don’t break. This is one of those “sleep machismo” idiots who hasn’t had a proper, healthy sleep in years and years. With the stresses he has brought on himself, plus being a willful lightning rod addicted to the attention of millions of people - both the haters and worshippers - his mind is in some sort of late-stage erosion.
What a wasted opportunity of a man. What an embarrassment.
I know but July first starts third business quarter. 😂
Edit: third, not second
Yeah, seriously. Baseless speculation isn’t news, and people here are acting like it’s fact because they want their biases to be confirmed.
I’m not a fan of Elon either, but I know tabloid trash when I see it.
I’m not going to claim I know what’s happening, but I like the self-DDoSing explanation because it’s even funnier
Lol yeah I saw that one I find it hilarious too.
Lmao just how much worse can it get. What a trip Elon
Fuck em both
The corporate internet is killing itself, and we’ll all be better for it.
Got downvoted in another post for having this sentiment.
Why should online plebs care about corpo clowns having a fee dispute?
They paid the google bill. So far it’s the only one I’ve seen them pay and who knows if they’ll continue.
I think it’s probably a combination of self-DDOSing and not paying providers. Which any intelligent experienced dev could’ve told him, but they all got fired months ago.
AnD TwaTTEr JusT ruNnInG FiNe DaWG
Other companies should follow the lead and fire all this dead weight 🙄
Imagine all the profit!
Its almost like the developers were holding the site together.
