It’s possible that the enforcement of a rate limit isn’t because of AI scraping, but rather because they failed to migrate before the June 30th deadline.

    • @[email protected]
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      with higher interest rates, it means they can’t get cheap loans, these companies will go under if the rates keep rising

    • @[email protected]OP
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      I think it’s more that people who tend to be billionaires tend to also be kinda scummy people.

      • @[email protected]
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        You dont make that kind of money being honest and empathetic. The most honest ppl I know that run businesses are barely paying themselves. There’s a reason CEOs have higher than normal representation of psychopaths. It allows them to make the best decisions even if it means running the orphan killing machine 24/7.

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          I think you mean the “most profitable in the next 3 months on average” decision. It certainly isn’t the best decision by any other metric.

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          This is not a thoughtful reply. Hopefully Lemmy can do better. I dislike Elon more than most people, but just reading uninformed ragebait like this is exhausting. Yes his parents managed an emerald mine, no they weren’t that wealthy, and no it didn’t make a substantial impact on the source of his wealth.

          Edit: most of his wealth originated from PayPal. Yes the money from the emerald mine helped him get to the US, and get an education. And it may have even helped him in his earlier career a bit. But it wasn’t like hundreds of millions of dollars that were just given to him like “here, go be rich!”.

          So he basically had as much monetary benefit as an upper-middle-class kid in America. Not the same as the commenter I’m replying to who implied that Elon is only wealthy because of his parents wealth, which is just obviously wrong.

          Just to be clear again, I think he’s a scumbag. BUT I don’t think we should blindly agree with something just because it fits our narrative… we should have intellectual curiosity for the truth. If anyone has any evidence that Elon received a substantial portion of his wealth from his parents’ emerald mine, please show that because I couldn’t find it.

          Sources:

          https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/11/17/elon-musk-emerald-mine/

          https://people.com/human-interest/who-is-errol-musk-elon-musk-father/

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              ? What’s your source that he received his billions of dollars from an emerald mine?

              I don’t trust Elon as a source at all!

              The parent comment literally said that he was a billionaire from inheriting an emerald mine. That’s patently untrue, and I’m curious why you disagree? Or what information you have that I’ve missed, looking at the sources I cited (which discuss the mine). I’m not doubting that the mine existed, or that it helped him get started at life.

              Tesla is worth almost a trillion dollars. And Elon owns 23% of Tesla shares. So that’s ~200B right there alone. Then add in his shares of SpaceX. It’s clear that his wealth is directly tied to the shares he owns of Tesla skyrocketing, not from an emerald mine.

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      In this case I think he doesn’t understand cloud hosting at all, so he doesn’t see the cost making sense. If you don’t value something, the pricetag seems ridiculous and you won’t even consider paying it. He will probably realize the mistake eventually.

      • the_itsb (she/her)
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        This is so much more true than I think most people believe.

        My husband and I have a small engine business, and I took a free “community entrepreneur bootcamp” class through the local university this spring in the hope that we might learn something helpful. Instead, I learned fun things like leaning on your customers’ fears as a marketing tactic (?? 😔🤦) and that the most prominent local accountant - brought in as an expert speaker by the university! - advises his clients to pay as little as possible as late as possible, and most appallingly, I’m not exaggerating, these are the actual words I heard this man say in front of a room full of people: “if one of your employees gets hurt at your business, it’s better for you to stand on their neck until they stop breathing than to call for help, because it’s so much easier and cheaper to settle a death claim then an injury.” And he actually said that it sounds like he’s joking but he’s not, this is his understanding of the situation.

        I genuinely want to see the best in everyone, and I have never before had the experience of fantasizing about a person’s death while they were talking in front of me, and it was abhorrent and awful but also… Wtf? How do we even help someone who sees other people as expendable tools the way this person does?

        What can we even do about people who not only don’t want to live up to their agreements and commitments, but are just straight up out to fuck everyone else over? How do we help/fix that?

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          It sounds very similar to when I was in seminary. They literally had classes on how to manipulate your audience. How to “use vocal patterns and body language to make yourself appear more sincere.”

          People severely underestimate how many shitty people there are in this world (and even those who appear trustworthy) that would eat your firstborn to increase their net worth if it wasn’t illegal.

          • @[email protected]
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            I read an article years ago that explained why so many people get “religious” feelings at big revival-type events at Six Flags, Carowinds, etc, even if they’re not particularly devout.

            There’s a thing called respiratory alkalosis (essentially hyperventilation) which makes you light-headed and confused. At it’s really easy to trigger by making people stand up quickly, sing really hard, sit back down, stand up and cheer, etc.

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                I’m back! I couldn’t find the specific thing I read, but I found something probably better, an actual study published in Pubmed:
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8871314/

                Statistical analyses showed that the psychological disposition during the religious worship experience speeds up the physiological responses, which was indicated by increases in HR [hear rate] and RR [respiratory rate]. Hence, the activation hypothesis was accepted, and the pacification hypothesis was rejected.

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                  Thanks! You made my day, my good lemming.

                  The conclusion fits what you said earlier, and it is easy to see how this is probably used cynically for these cult bro events:

                  The first analysis was an exploration of the physiological data, where it was seen that HR and RR were significantly correlated. The values of how strongly the participants were able to focus on God were strongly associated with the intensity of the experience as well as with the physiological variables

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          From a business standpoint I would never want to hire that accountant. If he openly talks about employees that way and being a bad customers to others he would probably also be a very bad supplier.

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          This sounds like an unfortunate consequence of the evolutionary pressure that has been allowed to take place within humanity for the past ~150 years. Profit is more important than anything else. So of course you’ll have sociopathic “profit-above-all-else” mindsets among influential business figures.

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          If one of your employees gets hurt at your business, it’s better for you to stand on their neck until they stop breathing than to call for help, because it’s so much easier and cheaper to settle a death claim then an injury

          That is because of regulations that pass the buck. If the US had public health care, and fines for negligence and OSHA violations, this wouldn’t be true. Public health care would be the best thing for small businesses because it removes the health insurance benefits and workers’ compensation issues completely. One big problem with the GOP is they are half right a lot, regulations are problematic, but not in the way they think. They take this half rightness and use it to do the wrong thing.

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    I think it’s probably a combination of self-DDOSing and not paying providers. Which any intelligent experienced dev could’ve told him, but they all got fired months ago.

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      AnD TwaTTEr JusT ruNnInG FiNe DaWG

      Other companies should follow the lead and fire all this dead weight 🙄

      Imagine all the profit!

    • @[email protected]
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      Yeah, seriously. Baseless speculation isn’t news, and people here are acting like it’s fact because they want their biases to be confirmed.

      I’m not a fan of Elon either, but I know tabloid trash when I see it.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      I mean it’s all speculation at this point. The guy isn’t honest and wouldn’t admit he brought down the whole site due to his hubris.

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        I think he can’t keep proper track of reality at a level where things don’t break. This is one of those “sleep machismo” idiots who hasn’t had a proper, healthy sleep in years and years. With the stresses he has brought on himself, plus being a willful lightning rod addicted to the attention of millions of people - both the haters and worshippers - his mind is in some sort of late-stage erosion.

        What a wasted opportunity of a man. What an embarrassment.

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    I don’t know what will happen with Twitter. Maybe it succeeds, maybe it fails, maybe it just keeps humming along in mediocrity. But what I do know is that wherever it ends up, there was surely a much simpler way to get there.

    • Prior_Industry
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      Well he did try pulling out the cables going into the server clusters. Maybe he got tired and bored before he could pull them all out

  • @[email protected]
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    To be fair, Google Cloud is an overpriced and unreliable dumpster fire of a service. I’m surprised Twitter was using them at all. Although, I guess when you’re paying billions of dollars, the service you get is different.

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      71 year ago

      Doesn’t change the fact that if you agree to pay someone for their service, you must pay someone for their service. I guess being a deadbeat is different when you’re purportedly worth billions of dollars.

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    The new ceo restarted the payment supposedly, so if it is because of Google, that would mean they didn’t renew which isn’t on Elon for failing to pay… unless his petulant refusal to pay when he was in charge made them refuse to renew.

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    Twitter isn’t paying any bills. They have a contract with us as well and haven’t been paying anything for months.

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    Classic Elon playbook. Make wild statement in public to cover for a wild business decision which is the real result. “HAHA oh yea Twitter is down cuz of these limits I put in place, not the fact that one of our core cloud providers shut us off.”

    • @[email protected]
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      “All the woke posts are causing network disruptions because their cancel culture leaks into the routers.”

    • @[email protected]
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      There was a post earlier today, but the post limit implementation legitimately did take down Twitter.

      In short, twitter ddosed it’s self by making 10 calls to its self every couple of time intervals (a minute or less) which would fail, refresh the UI and kick off even more self requests.

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      Got downvoted in another post for having this sentiment.

      Why should online plebs care about corpo clowns having a fee dispute?

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      The corporate internet is killing itself, and we’ll all be better for it.

    • pancakes
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      “Bills” is now considered a slur on Twitter.

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    I see that a lot of people complain about reddit, twitter, and whatever mainstream website completely fuck the consumer, but fail to realize one crucial thing. The only time change happens in mob settings is when the pain of no change is greater than the pain of change. I applaud Elon, spez, and who ever else wishes to put there services behind their paywall whether it’s an API or just simply viewing tweets. Anyone in the know knows that it’s a crock of shit and anyone who isn’t is annoyed to the point where change is preferable. The sooner people figure out posting information, entertainment, and other forms of media/knowledge to the benefit of a company is horrendous the better. Now we have the opportunity to get rid of the corporate greed and basically open-source peoples knowledge from around the globe. Although like with reddit, mob mentality poses a real threat to communities like this one, I trust that you all are normal and level headed individuals who can come to disagreements but still respect eachother (as corny as that sounds). I much prefer it over giving more information to companies who use it to profit off of my content, while I receive nothing.

    *Edit: Thank you kind stranger for the reddit gold! Glad you spent real hard cash so I can have reddit premium and reddit coins! The lovely people at reddit will be spending your money sitting on a yacht eating grapes in one hand and lobster in the other. I’m sure they are real thankful too! :) *