Shit this hits hard…
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Oh so true, not like our forefathers who had everything sooo easy … /s
I feel lucky to have bought a house in the sliver of time that I had when things lined up perfectly. Fuck
You should feel lucky. I am never going to own a home. Granted, I’m disabled and so broke my Internet is gonna be cut off in 36 hours, but still. Ain’t never gonna be a chance for me. My grandmother was able to buy a house by herself while raising two kids. My mother bought a house when she was 24. I’m 31 and gonna die in a cardbox box that I rent for $1800 a month.
$1800/month? That’s fucking insane. Look in to community living groups. I was turned on to it while I was in school (at 35 🤷🏻♂️) as a cheap option while I went back. I know we’ve all had room mate horror stories, but there are people out there who are willing to co-operate and work towards having a home.
Four years on and now I’m running the house (it’s just a rental with lots of rooms) and we have a great group of 5 that’s been together for over a year, including a 9 year old. (Most of us have been together 2 years now, we had a housemate leave amicably last summer).
I’ll admit the first two years were kinda rough. It took me a bit to recognize the red flags I needed to - and to build up the courage to be able to say “no, you wouldn’t be a good fit” to people I’ve known for years. I had some dramatic experiences trying to find the right people, but we’ve got a nice home now and we each pay around $600/month for a whole-ass home!
It does take work; physical, mental, and emotional, but saving $1200/month is worth it. You’ve gotta be able to communicate your needs respectfully and be able to look at yourself and acknowledge where you need to improve to be able to get along with people.
The rewards are worth it. We all work less now so we have weekly dinner and D&D and movie nights and it’s really quite nice. We still bump elbows from time to time, but we all know each other well enough now that it’s easy to solve conflict calmly.
The $1800 was an exaggeration of what I expect to happen. But I am in an apartment that isn’t cheap. I’m screwed either way
1800 is cheap where I am.
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Oh that’s what I’m paying an inner city apartment that has a mice/mold/insect problem and like the doors don’t close cause the frame and walls are cracked and lopsided… LoL I hate that pretty much every apartment is a flop house at luxury prices.
well calyx institute true unlimited data is quite cheap probably also if you want tv then get ota tv also mabye torrent if you use Netflix and stuff
Same but I’m self aware that I got a house thanks to society falling apart and couldn’t have done it otherwise.
2008 crisis + foreclosure + house needed tons of work.
I’ve made it nice with serious updates, but I couldn’t happily rebuy my own house and that’s scary
As an a vintage millennial I can say w confidence: there will be more and you should prepare yourself. Lol
I am hanging on by a thread as it is. Not being facetious or funny here in saying that I am not okay. Any more of this and I’m going to buckle.
World needs to slow down. Stop having 8 major crises a year. Fuck. Can we tone it back to like… 5?
Just because history doesn’t remember it doesn’t mean it hasn’t always been this way. Just roll with the punches and adapt when it actually affects you.
i lol because it’s the only way i can find to keep myself sane through the insanity from the last 40+ years and it’s taught me to expect more because boomers and the silent generation (eg biden and trump) are still in control and will be for atleast another 35+ years so shit will continue to happen because they only give a rat’s ass about themselves and maybe their children/grandchildren.
unless you’re one of those children/grandchildren, more shit will happen and expect to have to vote for those children/grandchildren into office or, at least, expect to call them boss at your next job; assuming you can still get a job.
and don’t bother complaining about it; the last 40+ years have also taught me the hard way that doing so will only label you a malcontent and make it more difficult to find work in your future.
learn how to fake a convincing smile to your bosses and find something to lol at for yourself to keep your head above the water.
Yeah I’ve been doing that for a the last few years and still struggle with maintaining it and have given so much of my emotions up to keep that mask on that if I magically found a gun in my hand I might not think twice before it was in mouth.
That inability to do anything but take the beatings with a smile has worn be down to a husk of a person.
As an early GenXer…they ain’t seen nothing yet.
Bbbb baby?
We’ll all basically be Joel in the coming social collapse.
Maybe YOU will but I’ll be killed and eaten within 29 hours.
Joel who, Joel Hodgson?
TLOU
Story of every generation, bub. I had the oil crises, 80s collapse, I forgot what it was called in the nineties, dotcom bubble, 2008 banking crisis, and the last few
Returning theme? One big dip per decade. 80s and 08 where the nastiest though.
Wars? One every 5-10 years. Too many to remember.
Yeah, I’m getting old.
And that guy in your pic is 54, pushing 55. Nowhere near 35.
So get your shit together, and take another one on the chin. The working class gets our asses kicked financially ever since money was invented. It’s how the system works.
Don’t forget a looming climate crisis. We have that to look forward to, potentially with societal collapse in the next 50 years due to it, and our oil supply running out.
That’s also been something of a recurring theme. Environmental disaster is always 30-50 years out.
Granted, it is definitely getting worse, and accelerating. But, for whatever reason, the historic estimates given for drastic climate events, like glaciers completely melting, has always been ~30 years.
I’ve been to glaciers that have receded to like 10% of their original glacial ice a 100 years ago. You have no idea what you’re talking about. The climate is breaking down right before your eyes, and all you have to say is been there done that… No wonder we’re fucked.
That’s not all I’ve said, at all. You’re flying off the handle irrationally.
Maybe we’re allowed to be fucking irrational when everything is on fire and you can’t “hard work your way out of a shit life” anymore.
If I make more money, inflation just sets me right the fuck back to where I was. There is no ladder it’s a fucking treadmill.
I was going to be nice. I want to. But you have your head up your ass. I don’t even know where to begin if you think this way. Wages vs. Inflation, access to debt ballooning, housing is a corporate commodity. You are lost.
We all are. Always have been. That was my point. I don’t own my house, the bank does and as long as I pay each month half of my income they allow me to live in it. I will never own it 100%.
The things you’re pointing at have always been a problem, nothing new. And each year those problems grow. As do the deficiencies of our governments, our states.
Ok, while I understand you can feel like your house is a chain holding you down let me point out it’s honestly a massive jump from long term fixed loans with historically lower payments and an asset tool you can use for other loans again in the future vs the renting system younger people are in with rent higher than mortgage payments, lack of asset and no fixed price point which allows for abuse and rapid price increases further crushing budgets of anyone stuck in that which is a massive and growing percent of younger generations.
Your budget is hurt by rising grocery costs and other things where as renters are hit in rent and monthly living arrangement costs increasing. And will have no assets to call on ever later in life for loans, or retirement. You see a burden and don’t realize people are dreaming of such a lighter stone to be crushing them.
what is you’re opinion of svb collapse
Since I’m in Europe not much. Not big enough to really change something or set something bigger in motion.
This is what I find interesting: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/investing/michael-burry-stock-market-crash/index.html
i am in Europe too
Wars? One every 5-10 years. Too many to remember.
People really do need to get a better idea of how common and ongoing war still is, and why it exists. We don’t have so much war in the world because people want or need to fight, we have so much war because there is an entire industry dependent on it, such that they manufacture and contrive reasons for war to be fought. There was a heavily decorated US WW1 veteran who flipped and started campaigning against this 100 years ago, and the industry has been churning on for far longer than that.
Maybe I don’t want to take shit “on the chin”.
Nobody wants that. But getting fucked in life is unfortunately a large part of living it.
You are, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, a fucking dumbass.
Thank you, you’re an asshole too! :)
And that guy in your pic is 54, pushing 55. Nowhere near 35.
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Did you write this message from your own house?
My third even, 100% bank owned. Cannot afford to switch again so I think this is it till the end. All my under 30 colleagues also have their own by the way. It’s fucking expensive especially with 3 kids who probably cannot move out the next 10 years.
I know where you’re coming from, having older kids myself. It’s hard and unfair. But that’s how it always been. The unfair part isn’t new.
Looking back thinking it was easier in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s is, I’m sorry to say, disillusional. You’re just looking at housing (which was also bullshit in the 80s, and 00s by the way) and forget the rest of the shit of those times. 80s wasn’t fun, my dad lost his job, we only kept our house because my grand parents died and the inheritance filled the financial hole. 00s also wasn’t fun, being a part of the greatest depression since the 30s, I was fortunate to keep my IT job, a lot of mates lost everything. (job, house, marriage, because bad finance kills relations I’ve learned.) My wife did get fired and still is not at the same level as back then. But we get by, thank you for asking.
Finance is a bitch. Always has been.
Thanks, I wish you well mate
Shouldn’t you also own your own house? Why are you hostile toward someone who has what everyone should have, when it’s other people who are taking what you should have?
Couldn’t possibly be because that person is acting like it’s our fault we’re too weak to have it too with the dismissive “bub” and the cry to “get your shit together.”
Just because you don’t like who it’s coming from doesn’t mean it’s not valid, practical advice. Take this one on the chin, and get your shit together so the next one doesn’t hit you, at least not so hard.
Are you capable of checking the context of a statement before replying to it? The quality of the advice was not at issue. You asked why the person was hostile. Being an asshole begets hostility.
Being an asshole begets hostility.
That’s not what’s happening here. You’re justifying someone being a bigger asshole because they perceive someone being a bit of one, or even just being associated with one by being the same age.
I’m not being hostile and that is not my tone. I was interested to know whether he’s in a financial situation where he can afford something that isn’t so affordable to the rest for the younger generation.
Poor boomer, your gen pulled the ladder up firmly behind yas, every gen since is living harder lives than our parents, thanks for fucking up our future
Dude, don’t hate on the guy who is in the same position as you, just because they’re older and it was someone older who took advantage of both of you.
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Absolutely meaningless when the end result is death. We do not benefit from our sacrifice, resilience and endurance. Our bosses do. Our landlords. Our government. I get a pittance to maybe survive another week until Death.
Previous generations gaslit themselves thinking all their hard work and perseverance would reward them in the afterlife but we have proven that that is a fucking lie and probably why religion was invented so the peasants would keep working.
And you expect me to be grateful to be a fucking slave to the billionaires?! Fuck you.
Nobody expects you to do anything. Just don’t expect anything in return and you’re golden.
BTW, you sound like me in the 80s. And that’s not meant as an insult or something, it’s just an observation. I’m curious if that says something about the economic & society cycle and where we are in it.
I was born in the 80s. So I got to see “the peak” of everything come tumbling down, right around I became an adult.
There was a time that hard work could pay off, I’ve seent it. That’s the worse. To know that things can be better, has been but was snatched away before I had a chance to start the fucking game. I’m not smart enough to “learn 2 code” I’ve fucking tried.
I’ve already sacrificed a lot, I had to reboot my life from scratch three times already. I’m too fucking old to just “try again”, and I refuse to live in a tent or my car. That’s not living that’s survival and what is the point of that, so the billionaires can leech off my labor a few more years til health problems or a crazy person takes me out? Fuck everything about that shit.
Hahaha, that’s not what I’m saying but if you want to take it like that, be my guest.
I’m saying shits fucked y’all. I’m also saying that it always has been.
The grass wasn’t greener back then. Just a different shade of brown. Housing was better, a lot else was way worse.
I’m glad I wasn’t born in the ww1/2 generation.
I’ll take economic and ecological collapse over trench warfare any day of the week. I get to type this critique in air conditioning, while those dudes drowned in shell crater cesspools just trying to take a shit.
Not to discount how horrible our future will be. At least compared to what our ancestors went though, we’ve got it good.
You have a point. At the same time, the silent generations kids, the boomers, lived through every technological breakthrough, on times of huge economic growth. Also they owned cheap house, had almost free tertiary education and a better labor market. Lastly they had access to banking dept and never woried about the environment. Now they are reaking all these benefits and while they fucked around for us to find out.
Well, COVID struck the silent generation most, so if anything that generation rolled a natural 1 on their d20 dice.
Lmao they did just get fucked by God every step of the way.
“Stay silent, bitch” - Fate
You could say, they took silent in Silent Generation literally.
Or even simpler things that people take for granted, like antibiotics, which weren’t discovered until 1942 and weren’t widely available until 1945. Can you imagine how awful things like strep throat or a minor infection were to deal with before penicillin.
I grew up dirt poor without healthcare until I got to the Army aat 18.
I’ve gone through many infections without antibiotics. Nearly died from sepsis once because I didn’t go to the ER until the line in my arm was halfway to my shoulder.
There was very little trench warfare in WW2. Unless you’re talking about the trenches for the death camps. Those were some really big wide trenches.
On the bright side they didn’t make any boomers.
They were ubiquitous, it just didn’t produce stalemates because armies didn’t rely solely on artillery and human waves to break through.
They were still used because they still worked against poorly supported infantry.
Still are used, look at Ukraine.
Obviously the comment was mostly referring to WW1 but there were many battlefields that would have looked very much like their WW1 counterparts until some tanks or air support showed up.
Hate to break it to them, but the worst is likely yet to come.
We’re aware. I propose we eat the boomers. Gen X is okay, though.
so what would that worst look like?
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What’s your plan of action for the upcoming water wars?
remove sea salt from the sea
As a Canadian: worry
Don’t worry, we’ll let you become Americans. How does the state of North Montana sound?
No thank you 🤮
Fr fr The resource paradox could fuck yall over baddddd…
Yeah bordering an underprepared but highly militarized country during a resource shortage is probably going to be a problem for them. Feels bad man
Die
Same as my retirement plan.
To not have children
birthrated will come back up right snd we won’t go extinct in like 2456 or something
That is surely one of many issues. Some localized like water, and some will be wider like food shortages. All avoidable, but somehow not.
Once water gets too scarce it will no longer be a “localized” problem. It’s necessary to survive and it traded as a commodity.
I don’t see it happening as we are entering a period of explosive progress with AI that surely will find ways to make water bountiful all over. Not a guarantee though and for sure the path to that future will have some bumps. Already has some.
sea salt removal and making water molecules 1 by one should save us
Our AI overlords need that water to cool their serverbanks though, so guess we are shit out of luck on that one.
Not even a joke, I miss the time when a virus was our biggest concern. That may be insensitive to people who had friends or family die because of it or who live in a country with shitty access to vaccines or health care in general though.
It’s awful but I get it…
I’ve got CPTSD so I’m always stressed and sort of over-preparing for things to go very very wrong. When the pandemic hit, all of those preparations came true. I was expecting the worse and here it was.
Was the only time in my life, at least in the past 15+ years, that I actually felt somewhat relaxed. Then the prices of everything went up and I got stressed for way different reasons.
I watch someone on YouTube who deals with stress. They said they were… I think relieved (can’t recall exactly what word they used) because, for once, their stress and the actions resulting from it were now normal.
Oh cool you too?
I mean COVID still hit me harder than I was prepared for and kinda crushed me a little but I picked back up pretty ok but since then been sorta on the back foot and losing steam
But wait, it gets worse!
We live in the most peaceful time in history and we carry the collective knowledge of humanity in our pockets. We have many problems to solve now and in the future but some perspective is useful.
Edit: this thread screams ignorance
I love that your bar is: hey man at least no one’s randomly stabbing you.
Which he’s also wrong about. I’ve been randomly stabbed for being gay.
knifes or pencils
In the ass?
Is every Australian user here either an idiot or an asshole?
Our sense of humour is different than yours is all. If we couldn’t laugh at ourselves and our mates we would kill ourselves.
it’s starting to become in a watch
Peaceful… I don’t know, more like everyone has lost hope for a better future.
Evil people in charge everywhere.
Collective knowledge of humanity in our pockets… But only interested in Facebook and tiktok and Instagram.
Study history. The chance of dying violently is the lowest in history. And evil people have always been in charge.
The fact evil people have always been in charge is not a plus in the humanity is OK column.
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We have many problems to solve now and in the future but some perspective is useful.
From my original comment ^
Don’t straw man. Obviously we have problems today. I’m not arguing that things are fine today. I arguing that from a historic perspective, today is a good day. Nostalgia for the past is such a bullshit privileged belief from non marginalized people. Study history so we don’t make the same stupid mistakes again.
Your original post sounds like you think millennials are the first generation to have problems when in reality, our generation’s problems are trivial in comparison to past generations.
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*thanos snaps * happy?
I think Greg is talking about how despite people mentioning how bad things are, if the current situation falls apart, they’ll look to the present era with nostalgia. Not that I say things are good as they currently are. It can be improved much more.
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I’m sorry to hear about your situation. That’s really rough. I hope you can get the support you need and deserve.
I don’t know how to help you personally, but I’m sorry to learn you’re in your current situation. Thanks for sharing it, I have no way of knowing otherwise.
To your 1st and 2nd point, those have always been true.
It’s definitely making me bitter towards the concept of owning property
Damn, this image really makes me feel sorry for Will Smith. He’s so pussy whipped, and it’s not even funny. His wife is in Scientology and basically uses the church and the threat of taking his kids away and hiding them within the church to get Will to toe into line, so much so that she cucked him with their son’s rapper friend (who she groomed after his mother died). This image is from her “red table” internet talk show where she had Will on and they both said they were ok with her sleeping around.
Still though, he gave me my wifi SSID, “KeepMyWiFisNameOutYourF-ingMouth”. It literally only just fits lol.
Feel sorry for people that actually deserve it. Don’t waste any emotional energy on this dipshit.
Wait what’s he do?
All people deserve empathy
Nah, some don’t. Wouldn’t say Will Smith is one of them, though.
That attitude is destructive and harmful to humanity.
My retirement plan is to go out in a blaze of glory fighting back the fascists in the Water Wars.
Mad Max would at least be the most metal way to dystopia lol
