This will be helpful in so many ways, humility and work ethic will be encouraged by not inflating ego with suits. If a suit is your style, great and fine, have at! If you are wearing it to feel important and you are working with others who are dressed differently, you are reminded that the job is at hand and not ego.
I thought it was a spacesuit at first
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON — Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., has quietly made changes to the Senate’s informal dress code to allow senators to wear whatever they want on the floor, one person with direct knowledge told NBC News.
A notice went out to the Senate sergeant at arms and relevant staff late Friday, and the change will go into effect starting Monday, the source added.
The offices of Schumer and Fetterman did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
The Senate has operated with an informal dress code enforced by the sergeant at arms, which requires men and women to dress in business attire.
But because the standard is not formal or a written policy, senators at times have been seen on the Senate floor wearing gym clothes, golf attire, denim vests, shoes without socks, colorful wigs, among other unconventional attire.
Although senators will benefit from the new change by being permitted to sport casual clothes in the Senate chamber, their staff is still required to wear business clothes under the old dress code.
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I’m ok with this- who the fuck cares if you have a tie.
I was all shit and tie when I started my job, and especially after Covid, things have relaxed to just about anything. Sure, I still put on a nice work polo for a client meeting or something, but fuck the suit and tie. If anything, fancy dress code made me way less productive because I was god damned uncomfortable all day. I’m a software engineer and cloud architect- wearing a dress shirt and tie is ridiculous.
As for our lawmakers, one less thing to distract them from actually reading bills and having productive discussion is a win.
I was all shit and tie
I think I may have spotted your problem.
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PS: I wear shorts or jeans and a tee every day. But oddly enough I also find suits really comfortable, as long as the shirt collar isn’t too tight. And I even kind of like dressing up. Once in a while. Maybe it’s because the laundry routine for a suit is much more of a PITA than tees.
I’m a software engineer and cloud architect
Knew it 🤣🤣
:)
I think “as a software engineer” is the “as a mother” of the fediverse
because I was god damned uncomfortable all day. I’m a software engineer and cloud architect- wearing a dress shirt and tie is ridiculous.
I had a role for a grand total of six weeks like that. It ended with one of those you can’t fire me because I quit kinda deals.
I work from home and only have a couple meetings where cameras aren’t necessary. Usually explaining how reports are calculated and such.
I wear pj’s 90% of the time unless I need to leave my house.
You’re telling me you don’t just wear the PJs out? Join me my friend
I have a friend who used to work for some big time government IT contractor, he was a tech guy, software engineer or something along those lines. One time they wanted him to go to some meeting, and not that he normally dresses like a slob or anything, but for the meeting he put on like a polo and khakis figuring he should look somewhat professional. They told him to go put a hoodie on because they thought whoever they were meeting with wouldn’t take him seriously as a programmer if he looked too presentable.
That sounds like a Dilbert comic. Why is life imitating satire?
Dilbert turned out to not be satire.
His creator might as well be at this point.
I’m a programmer, and I like dressing up: I don’t like ties, but I like wearing slacks and a button up shirt - so long as it’s a nice fit, it doesn’t restrict your movement, and there’s a lot of things to subtly stim with - you can roll your sleeves up or rebutton the cuff, you can make your steps clack or silent depending on how you walk, etc. Plus people just treat you differently off the bat, it’s a confidence boost
After a few years of constantly being told by everyone “you don’t have to dress up, people come here in jeans and a t-shirt” I finally gave in and took the hint
People just expect good programmers to look aggressively casual these days
I hope at least one person still believes you dress for the job you want and they show up as spiderman.
Know what would be funny? All the Dems show up in tan suits.
That would run about as well as the nancy pelosi kente cloth. The way you own republicans is by damaging their ability to gatekeep, not by just doing the thing they do but different.
How was the dress code not struck down under the first amendment? Clothing can be speech and the state generally cannot enforce what people wear in public spaces
- Courts generally don’t have jurisdiction to rule on internal House and Senate rules, so it would never come up for a real ruling from a court.
- Arguably, the Constitution grants the House and Senate power to make their own internal rules, and expel/censure their own members, in a way that makes it so that the negative prohibitions in the Constitution (like the First Amendment) don’t really apply to internal rules in the legislative branch.
- Government may regulate certain types of behavior, even if that behavior sometimes can be expressive speech, especially in regulating the time, place, or manner of that speech.
- Government can sometimes regulate workplace conduct in government workplaces, without the full protection of the First Amendment. For example, plenty of governmental bodies prohibit political speech in the workplace, or the use of official platforms for private/political speech by an employee, or employees wearing their official uniforms outside of work to imply an official endorsement of a particular candidate.
We need to add Rule Zero to the constitution: All rules will be submissive to the rules that preceded them, excepting amendments abolishing them.
Bam, free speech is now in effect under all contexts. Also, you can carry a gun on the senate floor and in the oval office. That would probably get a gun amendment passed real fast
Eh, I don’t think chronological order is the right order for this. That makes historically older rules have priority over newer ones even if they’re outdated. The second amendment is the obvious example of amendments being outdated. Even if you are all for gun rights, I don’t think you can argue that the amendment was written with modern weaponry in mind (and indeed, nobody argues that the average person should be allowed to own a fully functional tank).
And coming up with a better priority list would be impossible in the current political hurricane, as nobody would agree on the ordering.
Bam, free speech is now in effect under all contexts
I hope you realize that the First Amendment to the Constitution was ratified 3 years after the part of the Constitution that I’m describing, which is in Article I, before the amendments.
I like that the thumbnail is John Fetterman. Like who else could this be almost explicitly aimed at.
I think the rules said that women senators were supposed to wear dresses.
They just want to see what Boebert comes up with when sbe wants attention.
This is for the Senate only
Give her time
Are we sure she knows which is which
Poor guy got so depressed having to wear a suit they changed the dress code. I can empathize. My boss told me to put a dress shirt on if I’m on camera with customers and I hate it.
Zelensky
It would be funny if he voted no on it.
I hope he goes wearing overalls with one shoulder unbuckled and nothing else.
The Vince Wilfork Hard Knocks look is classic.
Personally, I’m hoping for a full-on biker gang setup complete with jacket with a big patch on the back.
Exactly. Now watch, some of the GOP that complained about Fetterman’s clothing choice will take it to the extreme and wear a chicken costume or something.
I look forward to all the cock jokes. I’m thinking something like:
“Which is the bigger cock: Hunter Biden’s penis, or this chode in a chicken suit?”
Well there was a literal orange clown in the oval office for a few days so republicans were already dressing up
Lauren Boebert has gotten into the habit of dressing down too it sounds like
Ya know. With the whole tits out while jerking off her date in public around kids and all that.
For sure someone is going to try to leverage this. What back-bencher will jump at it, and make a splash?
Personally I’m holding out for aborted fetus costume. I can feel it in my bones.
Ugh, you know what, I think you’re absolutely right. That’s gonna happen sooner or later. I dunno when, but I entirely expect it to eventually (or maybe very, very soon).
Dude looks like someone stuck an Astartes into a sweatshirt and jean shorts.
They should wear togas and sashes. Maybe have some fist fights and assasinations once in a while.
This is part of a slow trend towards powerful people dressing casually to differentiate themselves from the less powerful people who work for them. Historically, trends like this have been set by the elite and are then emulated by people trying to convince others that they are elite. This is the beginning of the end of formal wear in the United States. Soon a suit will mean “i work at a hotel”.
I hate dressing up for work. Reminds me of getting dressed for church as a kid. Hard pass.
The president of Chile wears a Tool t shirt and Zelenskyy is basically always in olive drab. The time of the suit is past.
Zelenskyy I guess has no other choice as his country is in war and he is the supreme commander of his forces
He’s not on the front lines lol
He frequently visits them however. OD is extremely practical in his case and definitely the exception to this stuff
I know but wearing olive drab is good for his soldier’s morale… “I’m on this with you” kind of thing
I don’t think so. I think this time is different. At some point the leadership was no longer the trendsetters. I am not going to buy a certain shirt because I saw Biden or Bezos wearing it. I might if someone I think is actually cool did. Maybe we just aren’t some weird pyramid society anymore.
Well, the formal wear will just shift- to over priced hoodies and stuff
Hence this part, perhaps?
Although senators will benefit from the change by being permitted to sport casual clothes in the Senate chamber, their staffs are still required to wear business clothes under the old dress code. People other than senators who walk on to the Senate floor will also need to wear business attire, which for men means a jacket and a tie.
Rules for thee, not for me.
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Honestly doubt anyone will vote differently because of attire. If anything, the conservative commentators will say that the Dems are being lazy and undignified if they aren’t wearing suits. We’ll probably see most senators continuing to dress formally anyways because it’s a symbol of power.
:( same initial thought here…
Literally saw this as I’m preparing to go get printed for a background check for my first gov job. I’ve been debating how dressed-down I wanna be since this isn’t an actual “work” thing. This just persuaded me to ditch the polo shirt and wear a tshirt. I’ll have plenty of other days when I “need” to wear a colored shirt.
So, just a caution. The folks in the area of the department you’re working for may be chill and following the norms of leadership. But bureaucrats are cautious and traditional to a fault. Many still see formal wear from subordinates as a sign of respect for the hierarchy and office, and changes like those from Schumer as a temporary stunt that may or may not stick around. Further, the folks who are printing you are likely law and order types and are even more likely to make judgements based on appearance. Unless you know they are chill, caution may be best. In general, government work is highly context dependent, with lots of unwritten rules and judgements based on perception and relationships. Caution is best if there aren’t written rules to follow.
A note to programmers: don’t “dress up” for any important business or government meeting. I got yelled at once because I was supposed to “look like a programmer” in a sales meeting but I dressed nice
Moral of the story, ask your manager how you should dress for that important meeting.
Even better, try to work for managers that give proper direction to the people they supervise, rather than expecting people to be mind-readers.
Well, to be fair, unless you work in very specific industries, a manager usually won’t tell you how to dress, but will expect you to know the policy as laid down by HR.
My point was, on a specific meeting-by-meeting basis, if a meeting has particular business importance to it you might want to check with your direct report as to how you should present yourself overall, and not just how you should dress.
But yeah, managers that communicate well to their staff is always a good thing, generally speaking.
In my first job out of college, I dressed up in a suit and tie for my first day. I was (nicely) told not to dress like that again and that the office was much more casual.
Of course, this was a technology magazine in the mid-90’s so it might have been an exception versus other work places.
I once worked for a place that had “formal fridays”. Once saw a dev come in with a top hat, coat and tails.
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looks at my DHS badge with it’s literal just woke up face and memphis devil lady t-shirt
Huh, that explains a lot of things now.
That’s exactly why they put you on the ‘spying for dick-pics’ team… are there any openings?
Unless you know they are chill, caution may be best.
A good piece of advice for every day in your life, when dealing with others that may have power over you.
I’d love to see the moral scolds on the right pipe up about how scandalous this all is, right after Lauren “handy” Qbert was caught on video…
Fetterman has already addressed this on Twitter/X.
That is amazing. Of course straight to the pearl clutching from Fox.
And so the Fashionista Party began its dominance of the vote
Balenciagaaaaa!
Fuck yeah. Hoodie and jeans. He’s the most “average man” there is.
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Jeans? What the hell is this, Ohio? That man is wearing a hoodie and shorts, thankyouverymuch. The senator from PA prefers traditional dress.
Oh fuck yeah, shorts 100%, but I figured he wanted to class up the joint a little and wear long pants.
