Since the latest season hasn’t concluded yet, let’s only look at plot holes from 1990 and before.

  • @quinkin@lemmy.world
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    412 years ago

    The whole wrapping up world war 2 using “the gadget” just reeks of writers struggling to wrap up after writing themselves into a corner.

    • @GreasyTengu@sh.itjust.works
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      42 years ago

      The writers keep doing this shit.

      The Berlin Wall arc just abruptly ended because they announced that East Germans could freely travel to the west and ‘conveniently’ forgot to mention there were still some regulations. Then the Border guards ‘conveniently’ said “fuck it” and let people pass without checking passports.

      They built up the Epstein island arc like mad only to end it with him killing himself in prison and then never mention it again.

    • @100@lemm.ee
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      282 years ago

      The end of WW2 was a complex political issue, and the atomic bombs were not the ‘press here, end war’ that most of us believe.

      The Japanese we’re holding out hope (stupidly) that the Soviet Union would negotiate a conditional surrender with the united States as the end of the imperial system was unacceptable to them. The US had floated that if there was an unconditional surrender, that the imperial system would stay intact, but wanted it to seem like a US condition, not a Japanese one, because that would be a conditional surrender.

      The Soviets always intended to invade, but were held by a nonaggression pact they made with the Japanese. The US pressured the Soviets very hard to violate this and invade Manchuria.

      There was literally a Japanese war cabinet convened already when news of Nagasaki reached them. We have actual primary source for their reactions. They did not care.

      Only once the second bomb dropped and Manchuria was invaded did some of the cabinet manage to convince the emporer to intervene which was extremely rare.

  • @usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca
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    722 years ago

    The details around the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand really jump the shark. Must’ve been a drug-fueled writing session on that one

      • @Mirodir@lemmy.fmhy.net
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        242 years ago

        Don’t ignore the whole other stuff with the failed bombing etc.

        From wikipedia:

        At 10:10 am,[75] Franz Ferdinand’s car approached and Čabrinović threw his bomb. The bomb bounced off the folded back convertible cover into the street.[76] The bomb’s timed detonator caused it to explode under the next car, putting that car out of action, leaving a 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m), 6.5-inch-deep (170 mm) crater,[75] and wounding 16–20 people.[77]

        Čabrinović swallowed his cyanide pill and jumped into the Miljacka river. Čabrinović’s suicide attempt failed, as the old cyanide only induced vomiting, and the Miljacka was only 13 cm deep due to the hot, dry summer.[78] Police dragged Čabrinović out of the river, and he was severely beaten by the crowd before being taken into custody.

        Just the mental image of him chucking himself into a river after the failed bombing and then also failing his suicide on two fronts…

    • @TotallyHuman@lemmy.caOP
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      192 years ago

      When that one aired I assumed they were going to genre-shift into dark comedy or slapstick, but they… really, really didn’t.

      • Tippon
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        102 years ago

        You haven’t seen Blackadder? I thought the whole plot was a set up to the series.

    • Digital Mark
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      22 years ago

      “The War to End All Wars” was a good season finale, but then just 20 years later they made a sequel with bigger effects budget and openly evil villains. Lazy writing. And the way things have been written towards WWIII but then backing off is a long season tease.

  • @TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    The fact the Pepsi at one point had the 6th largest military in the world, and did nothing to conquer Coca-Cola.

    Like, why even start that storyline if you dont take it to the inevitable conclusion?

  • CurlyWurlies4All
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    2 years ago

    Are we supposed to believe the largest most dominant military force in the world, Kublai Kahn’s Mongol fleet was defeated by some inclement weather… TWICE?? Lazy writing.

    • noughtnaut
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      112 years ago

      Inclement weather, just FYI. Although, your spelling also makes a lot of sense in the current times…

      Not bashing your point though, that’s a good one.

      • CurlyWurlies4All
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        82 years ago

        My turn to learn a new fact today. Wild that I’ve never realised it was spelt that way.

  • magnetosphere
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    122 years ago

    The Trump storyline is taking way too long to reach a definitive conclusion, and I’m not even confident that it will be a particularly satisfying one.

      • I mean I was aware of him before 1990 and really could not understand how he was famous or successful. My brother is older than me and Trump came up on the news one day and he said “he’s either a criminal or his bankers are idiots”. We grew up quite a ways from NYC if you’re wondering.

        The older you are the more insane this timeline seems. I knew he’d get elected. Racism and sexism put him over the top. Still felt like I was going crazy watching it.

        • @CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world
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          82 years ago

          Spoilers for future seasons: they try pretty hard to replicate the ratings bonanza of Chancellor Hitler storyline, but it veers way off into weird nonsense, and instead of any sort of satisfying conclusion eventually everyone just gets tired of him and he spends his last years muttering to himself at increasingly sadder and sadder rallies for his remaining geriatric fans.

      • magnetosphere
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        102 years ago

        Ha ha ha I totally misread the title. I thought it was 1990 and beyond. Whoops! Thanks for pointing that out!

    • @Rukmer@lemmy.world
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      112 years ago

      My 6 year old was asking me about this a few weeks ago. He’s asking, how do our minds work? How did we come to be thinking and feeling and thinking about thinking? He says, “I know we’re made of cells, but how did the cells… find their voice?” He’s so fun.

      Like a year prior to this, I stayed up all night trying to Google it, I guess for some reason I thought the answer would be a little clearer but apparently it’s highly debated and mostly unknown.

      • @FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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        102 years ago

        One approach that I’m reasonably sure is correct is “emergence”. A bunch of simple systems come together in a way that forms a more complex system than any of its individual parts. You can find this in many areas:

        • computers are made up of very simple basic units that come together to do incredible things

        • games can have simple systems that produce complex behaviour when taken together

        • biological systems follow similar patterns

        It just seems right that consciousness isn’t something that evolved as a standalone thing, but instead is the result of more and more simple systems coming together. We didn’t wake up screaming one night in the face of the sheer terror of existence, it was a choir that gradually got louder :)

  • @flossdaily@lemmy.world
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    372 years ago

    That there wasn’t a single mainstream Republican who stood up to Trump during his presidency.

    I mean, come on. Who wrote this?

    We’re supposed to believe that EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN in government went from taking about how unfit Trump was when he was a candidate … to standing behind him 100% even when he cozied up to Russia, paid hush money to a porn star, and lied about a Presidential election?

  • @Zippy@lemmy.world
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    52 years ago

    Feeding incubated humans to produce more energy than what is inputted.

    Couldn’t they just suggest the computer overlord prime directive was hard-coded to keep humans alive at whatever cost?

    • Dion Starfire
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      122 years ago

      Originally the machines were going to use human brains for processing, but apparently the explanation was deemed too technical, so they changed it to some mumbo jumbo about power, which also let them use the nickname Coppertop.

      • @Zippy@lemmy.world
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        32 years ago

        That is even better. Making humans into some perpetual energy machine seemed silly. If you are going to break a fundamental law of physics, why not use animals. At least they won’t fight back.

        • @TotallyHuman@lemmy.caOP
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          32 years ago

          Although…

          MORPHEUS: Where did you hear about the laws of thermodynamics, Neo?

          NEO: Anyone who’s made it past one science class in high school ought to know about the laws of thermodynamics!

          MORPHEUS: Where did you go to high school, Neo?

          (Pause.)

          NEO: …in the Matrix.

          MORPHEUS: The machines tell elegant lies.

          (Pause.)

          NEO (in a small voice): Could I please have a real physics textbook?

          MORPHEUS: There is no such thing, Neo. The universe doesn’t run on math.

          • @Zippy@lemmy.world
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            22 years ago

            Thanks for the reference. I couldn’t recall exactly how it was explained. Certainly most sci-fi requires you to suspend belief and that is fine. Often there are technologies employed to make a movie interesting. Technologies that are very unlikely to be possible.

            In the Matrix, everyone was in a virtual reality and as you quoted, they could have entirely made up physics as we know it. Possibly a perpetual motion machine is viable in the real universe and that is the belief you need to suspend. Which again is fine But it is such a weak minor plot. If that were possible, why use humans? It should be possible with some algae slurry or by mechanical methods or as said, just use animals. Non if them would be a threat. In other words, what makes humans so unique that only they alone can fill this function?

            As someone said earlier, the books suggested the computers wanted the processing power of the human brain. That is a fairly easy concept to explain, is an item unique to humans alone and actually in a far future society, might be something that is truely possible. It hardly required you to even suspend belief. Not sure why they didn’t go with that.

            • @TotallyHuman@lemmy.caOP
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              32 years ago

              Yeah, I like the idea of using humans for computing. Or that they don’t want us dead. I just thought that the idea that all of Matrix-physics is a lie to be such a mind screw that I had to include it.

  • @nieceandtows@programming.dev
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    352 years ago

    I don’t know about this series, but I play a game with the same name and absolutely hate it. It’s hugely pay to win with permadeath and the grind has nowhere near the payoff for the amount of effort you put in.