YouTube suspends Russell Brand from making money off his channel — The suspension comes following the publication of rape and sexual assault allegations against the British star::YouTube has blocked Russell Brand from making money off its platform and the BBC pulled some of his shows from its online streaming service in the wake of rape and sexual assault allegations against the comedian-turned-influencer.

  • @[email protected]
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    692 years ago

    Is it against YT TOS or did they take the liberty with this decision

    Second, as much as I have always found him sketchy and a very irritating person, I am very alarmed by the erosion of people’s right to be presumed innocent until found guilty. even when I know that he is quite capable of the committing those allegation

    • @[email protected]
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      302 years ago

      A platform can choose themselves who they extend the platform to.

      It may not be justice, but if Youtube decides to demonetise every video featuring red sweaters, then they have the liberty to do so.

      • @[email protected]
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        292 years ago

        That’s too much power for a monopoly to have. And YouTube is quite close to a monopoly.

        Maybe “more fool you” but entire livelihoods and businesses rely on YouTube not cutting them off at any random moment with no notice or warning.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 years ago

          Don’t want the risk of culpability ? Don’t want to consider others? Feel entitled? Then go Create your own distribution.

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          12 years ago

          YouTube sucks, but it’s not a monopoly. It’s nowhere close to one. Monopolies are not “there’s only one product.” People love spouting monopoly to every mainstream product like iPhone and Windows.

          YouTube has plenty of competition in video hosting. There’s more professional high cost ones like Netflix. Less giving but just as easily accessible is TikTok. Hell there’s even PornHub.

          Just because YouTube has a unique combination of services that has allowed self employment for many people that can’t get it easily on existing sites does not mean that competition does not exist. Many content creators on YouTube actually advertise a competing site on YouTube.

          Before we can start offering solutions we need to have a good understanding on what the problem is and what it isn’t.

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          That’s why it’s so important to just build your own website and to stop being dependent on other people for anything you have.

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          52 years ago

          But YouTube doesn’t have a monopoly, you’re more than welcome to start up a competing video hosting site and steal their customers. YouTube is providing a platform, for people to upload and store their videos for free – they have every right to decide who they do and don’t want on their platform.

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            112 years ago

            Due to network effects, YouTube has a monopoly in video hosting. A monopoly is any company which has significantly more marketshare in its respective niche than all other companies in the same niche.

            Now, does YouTube fit this definition?

            Btw, there have been successful lawsuits against channel suspensions already from people making a living off of YouTube due to worker protection laws.

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          It’s simple, just don’t do something that will get you banned fifteen years later when the winds change direction. Sure, red sweaters were cool back then, but now they mean something wildly different. We’ll give you three strikes for three videos with one second of a red sweater. And you’re deleted for so many strikes. Thanks, bu-bye.

              • @[email protected]
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                42 years ago

                I’m not a fucking jury or newscaster so I’m not sure why you’re coming at me with that incel shit.

                He fucking did it anyway.

                • @[email protected]
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                  12 years ago

                  The allegations say it was ten years ago. Can we have women turn to the police before their rapist turn famous and rich?

                  Yeah I just found out this British guy is a cunt and some pseudo crazy Jesus christ right winger, but not everyone who’s awful is really guilty

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      Yeah, I don’t know anything about this guy but this is an alarming decision if the headline is accurate.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      YT is a private company supplying a server. They can set their own policy (TOS which is neither enforceable by law for either side) and they don’t actually owe anyone their livelihood. It’s like getting kicked off of any platform,even Etsy. Etsy doesn’t then owe you money that you could have made. You don’t own potential money. It’s not promised to you. They are a platform. Not your distributor. And even at that you can be kicked from a distributor anytime as they can also have policies on content they will associate with. If they decide it’s disagreeable, that in itself is a breach of contract.

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        32 years ago

        I don’t think the debate is whether YouTube is allowed to choose who is or isn’t on their site, but whether it is OK to subject someone to the result of a trial by social media.

        If someone made an accusation against you, would you think it’d be right of your employer to sack you, or would you like the chance to defend yourself legally first?

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Mm…I don’t think that’s usually the case with all allegations of this nature. You may be partially right but I think people are all over this one because of how “sketchy” he is in the first place. If someone like let’s say…Keanu Reeves is accused of something like this, everyone would probably side with Keanu because of who he is and who he always has been.

      • XIIIesq
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        22 years ago

        I really hope no one falsely accuses you of a sex crime, because you’ve just made your bed.

    • prole
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      92 years ago

      YouTube doesn’t need to presume shit. You’re confusing YouTube with the US government.

  • @[email protected]
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    242 years ago

    Look, it wouldn’t surprise me if these allegations were true given the kind of person he is and his past behaviour.

    But I’ll just bring up the example of Kevin Spacey. A man whose career was thrown in the bin over allegations that were untrue. Obviously, we don’t learn anything at all.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      Don’t forget how the government weaponised similar accusations against Julian Assange.

    • @[email protected]
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      362 years ago

      Kevin accuser status:

      "She was hit by a car in March and died in the hospital shortly after. No driver was charged for the incident. "

      “In September, another accuser died, although his name is unknown. The man, who was a massage therapist, was suing Spacey under the name of “John Doe” for sexual assault. Shortly before the trial began, he died. A source informed Variety that he passed away from cancer. Because of the massage therapist’s death, his case against Spacey was dismissed.”

      “On Christmas Day of 2019, Ari died of an apparent suicide. No further details have been disclosed as of yet.”

      So I don’t think Kevin Spacey is a good example of “innocent man”

      Also some people need to read more about the “rumors” that “support” these allegations as they are “open secrets” in Hollywood. For any accusations, a little bit of research can provide very amazingly details about these cases from early 2000 in blogs and gossip Hollywood magazine.

  • @[email protected]
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    112 years ago

    He’s the fakest piece of shit around. Not surprising at all.

    I’ve always hated his fake cockney bullshit. You can hear when his accent slips and then suddenly he’s all “Knees up muvva brown!” for the next 30 seconds.

    Fucking piece of shit is from Essex, the most trash place in the entire UK.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      He is a working class person from Essex. He’s not pretending to be anything he isn’t, except arguably an intellectual. No need to be so vitriolic.

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        12 years ago

        Being a drug addict does not make you working class.

        He glamourises drugs and other grubby behaviour and makes a living out of being obnoxious, until people call him out on it, at which point he turns on the waterworks and does the “oh poor little street kid me” act.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          He left his single parent home at 16 before turning to drugs. How was he not working class. He’s an ex-drug addict and doesn’t glamourise them at all. I don’t even like him, but the facts are out there.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            What do you think “working class” means?

            You obviously haven’t seen any of his material. He’s built his whole career on drugs. Find a clip where he’s not talking about them.

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              You want me to find a clip of Russell Brand not talking about drugs? Wow… impossible.

              Working class is anyone from the social group of unskilled or manual/industrial work. The people who work these jobs and their families/children. Like Russell Brand. He’s not working class anymore, but he just factually was as a child. Weird hill to die on.

                • @[email protected]
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                  There isn’t an argument, you called him the fakest piece of shit around and then suggested he was some kind of privileged upper class toff pretending to be an Essex urchin. But the obvious reality is he presents himself as he is. You chose the dumbest attack you could have. Attack his politics or something.

  • @[email protected]
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    192 years ago

    It’s kind of weird how so much of this thread seems to think a monetized YouTube channel is a human right or something

    • XIIIesq
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      52 years ago

      That’s not the point.

      If someone made an allegation against you, would you expect your employer to sack you first and ask questions later or would you like the chance to defend yourself legally first?

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        Dude, people get fired all the time after being arrested or accused of a heinous act. All of this well before ever going to trial. Businesses don’t have to and often won’t keep someone on that is a risk to their company, culture, or brand identity.

        It absolutely sucks that people can lose their livelihood over “he said / she said”, but the fact is that it happens all the time.

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        If I was was accused of something awful yes I’d be fired. That how life works, doesn’t make it fair. The reason? Because 9 times out of 10 it’s true.

        Why do you want a potential rapist to get special privileges?

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          32 years ago

          I don’t think that the democratic principle of innocent until proven guilty is special treatment, nor do I think that the right to a fair trial is special treatment.

          God forbid, you ever get falsely accused of anything nefarious, you’ll deserve the treatment that you condone.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            And by extension, you obviously expect to be accused of something like this, because you are bending over backwards to defend a probable rapist.

            Innocent until proven guilty was NEVER applied anywhere but a legal context and your willful attempts at ignoring that fact when presented it, indicate you’re exactly as suspect as you originally came off. Great job.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          Literally every human on the planet is a “potential rapist”.

          So by your rhetoric nobody should be able to be employed or have a YouTube channel.

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            By your incel logic only proven rapists would ever suffer a single consequence of any type. You’d probably support a law that bans even making the accusation publicly until after a conviction. And this is one of many reasons women should avoid you.

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              12 years ago

              Your now assuming my political position and not addressing my words. We can disagree, I just ask you not insult me.

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                Yeah pretend not to understand the point I’m making, intentionally read words literally and ignore context, but it’s indeed me who is insulting here

                • @[email protected]
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                  We cannot have a functional discussion if personal attacks and insults are involved. At that point how can we establish good faith discord?

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    Didn’t he practically brag about treating women like shit until he had a daughter? That’s what his rebirth special was cringefully about. He was literally making money about talking about treating women like shit.

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    1222 years ago

    Google again pretending to be the moral police. Based on accusations of something that might or might not have happened 20 years ago. Apparently they don’t have a problem with him being on their platform or showing ads on his videos though, they just want to save some money and look like they’re doing the right thing (they are not).

  • Kokesh
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    592 years ago

    I have no idea if he did or didn’t any of the alleged. But what happened to innocent u til proven guilty? Anyone accused of anything these days gets cancelled.

    • Dudewitbow
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      I mean there are definately people who havent been canceled. Reminder that Chris Brown is probably bigger than he once was and everyone knows hes actually beaten up people

      • @[email protected]
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        312 years ago

        I would say that ACTUALLY being “cancelled” is the exception.

        The vast majority of shitheads just pivot their grift fully to the chud base and then present themselves as a persecuted victim. And then “mainstream” media tries to rehabilitate them in a few years.

        • ram
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          102 years ago

          Worst case scenario Ben Shepiro offers them a spot on the Daily Wire.

        • @[email protected]
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          72 years ago

          I would say that ACTUALLY being “cancelled” is the exception.

          I’d argue it’s the opposite.

          Most working class people can suffer real consequences as a result of it. Those who are rich, famous, and/or influential can afford to just pivot.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      He isn’t jailed is he?

      And not even cancelled either. He is still even allowed to post content to Youtube.

      Anyone who can still say they are cancelled aren’t actually cancelled.

    • ram
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      72 years ago

      Presumption of innocence is in law. IANAL.

    • funkajunk
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      202 years ago

      Not sure why you’re being downvoted, nobody here knows if he did it or not.

      Unfortunately, that’s pretty much a wrap for him. Nobody has come back from rape allegations, even if they win in court.

      I don’t even like the guy, but I really dislike how we’ve regressed to the point where feelings are more important than facts.

      • @[email protected]
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        152 years ago

        Trump lost in civil court for what the judge called rape, and still has a rabid fan base.

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            It was a defamation case in which the courts determined that Trump made false statements by denying the allegations because he most likely did sexually assault E. Jean Carroll.

            No criminal case was brought because it’s beyond the statute of limitations, and since the legal bar in a criminal case is higher I don’t think any prosecutor would bring those charges even if statute of limitations wasn’t an issue.

            https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/e-jean-carroll-sued-trump-defamation-last-resort-blame-statute-ncna1077321

            At the time when Carroll alleges Trump raped her, the statute of limitations for rape in the state of New York was five years.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          There was no real evidence though. Just he said she said. Let’s not pretend like there aren’t huge incentives to make false allegations and that there are entities out there capable executing on that plan. I say this as someone who is not a fan of Trump.

      • z3rOR0ne
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        232 years ago

        Cancelled people don’t come back!? What fucking planet are you living on?

        Bret The Rapist Kavanaugh got everything he wanted after getting cancelled.

        Floyd Wife Beater Mayweather will still be remembered for his boxing career than the shit he should be remembered for.

        Louie Indecent Exposure CK came back to the Comedy Scene years after getting cancelled only to make disingenuous jokes about his behavior.

        These pieces of garbage should hang their heads in shame and suffer social ostracism until all their victims vocally and emphatically forgive them publicly.

        The fact we make excuses for and defend these “people” because of their social status and a myriad of legal loopholes that allow for them to walk free with their heads held high while their victims are questioned and vilified is fucking pathetic.

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        102 years ago

        I mean Deshaun Watson came back with 230 million dollars guaranteed after several sexual harrasment allegations. Public image wise hes gone, but that doesnt mean he still doesnt make a shit ton of money (and all of it guaranteed)

        • @[email protected]
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          52 years ago

          Several? Man was at 26 allegations and he is still currently being sued. The Browns were stupid enough to pay him thinking he was going to save them and to a vast majority of football fans joy he isn’t playing well. I wouldn’t be shocked if he goes broke.

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      382 years ago

      Google is not the law, and they can do whatever they want with their company.

      They don’t have to continue to pay him if they don’t want to — innocent, guilty, whichever. Just like they don’t have to continue to host nazi garbage or MAGA garbage if they don’t want to.

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        This only works because Youtube has the loosest form of contracts with its creators. Your regular employers can’t fire you because of allegations or hearsay (modulo local labor laws).

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        122 years ago

        This puts Russel Brand in a position to sue for libel and slander as the court of public opinion has already declared him guilty. What happens if he is found innocent at his court case. What if they did this to Johnny Depp?

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          22 years ago

          Nothing. These people aren’t entitled to companies wanting to work with them. This isn’t the same thing as being a W-2 worker somewhere.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          “Not guilty” is distinct from “innocent”, and such a verdict, if a trial ever comes of this, would not impact libel or slander. Being unable to prove your accusations in court to the standard required is not a determination that the accusations were false, only that doubt remained.

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        262 years ago

        Google is not the law, and they can do whatever they want with their company.

        Sure, but imagine your employer just fired you because of accusations before it ever reached trial. Illegal? No. Ruining someone’s livelihood even though they’re innocent legally speaking? Yes.

        Not defending this person, I genuinely do not even know who they are. But “private company can do whatever they want, your rights are only something the government has to care about” is a pretty concerning position to take. Not to mention they didn’t seem to take down or stop running ads on the channel, just stopped giving him the money. They’re profiting off of his content without paying him and using an unverified (but very possibly accurate) accusation as an excuse. That should be illegal.

        • @[email protected]
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          82 years ago

          I would hope my job would fire me if there were a dozen complaints about me ranging from mental abuse to rape over the span of over a decade.

          I agree with you about Google just pocketing any money made off him though, that’s messed up

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            52 years ago

            The influx of libertarian dead minded commenters here is exhausting. Too concerned with zero tolerance rules to even consider the details or understand the difference. I thought Reddit was bad.

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    612 years ago

    It’s not the fucking job of YouTube to judge and punish. We have judges and the Criminal Code for that. We should not let us ruled by corporations!

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      It is their job to make profits. Literally. Google is legally bound by stake holder agreement to maximise profits, absolutely nothing to do with the justice system or any sort of ethical code.

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      52 years ago

      Agree, there’s actual rapists and incels on YouTube that need banning before an alleged rapist or SA.

      and they might have tainted any jurors ifa case did come about.

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      162 years ago

      Yeah but they clearly feel there is enough smoke to be worried about a fire and are entitled to cut ties. It may be the case if they don’t that people take their impartial inaction to be supporting him. They have ethics and morality clauses in their TOS.

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        It’s one thing if they actually stop running ads on his videos. I bet they crank more ads on them instead.

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      Advertisers won’t want to be shown on his videos while this is ongoing.

      Keeping them happy is in fact literally their job.

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      I’m guessing the challenge is advertisers. Advertisers buy ad space next to or in video content. No advertiser wants to buy ad space that is adjacent to or makes it look like they are supporting someone under public scrutiny for sexual assault allegations. So as Google, where you need to sell good ad space to paying advertisers, bother with running ads next to Russel Brand or just say no and make that clear to advertisers to build confidence?

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      No, but as a private firm it is there decision what they host, promote and show adverts against. He has no contract with YT guaranteeing an income, thats not how it works. If he wants a guaranteed income he should get back on TV with a contact, but he Burt those bridges when he become a conspiracy grifter.

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        Yea I understand that, but so many content creators get thrown under the bus by YouTube, twitch, etc. that I think there should be a law protecting individuals from big cooperations that they are dependent on. I know, it’s different in America compared to where I live, here, if you have someone Working for you and you fire that person, depending how long this person works for you already, you have to pay salary for up to 3 months. (There are few reasons that allow cancellation of contract immediately) After you got fired, you can go to a place called “Arbeitslosenkasse” where you get 80% of salary going forward as long as you try to get a new job.

        So maybe thats why I find it odd when YouTube just flick a switch upon obligations…

        Btw. I don’t know that guy the post is about and highly doubt that he is innocent given the infos I have seen yet.

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          I mean its the same in the UK with employment protections, but YouTubers wouldn’t be covered by that as they’re not employees and don’t have contracts. Google don’t really have to share any revenue with uploaders as they’re already providing the infrastructure and storage for free.

          No one should rely on that as income and just see it as a bonus, to other income streams.

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          We have the same laws in the UK, but he’s self-employed. Can you not be self-employed where you live?

    • @[email protected]
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      82 years ago

      Oh my God shut up. No one has the right to force a private company to pay them money. YouTube can do any fucking thing they want

  • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】
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    All of the top comments in this thread seem very astroturfed. All saying the same thing, all wrong about the doctrinal implications of legal presumptions.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      It is very concerning how prominent the “innocent until proven guilty” phrase is getting thrown around. Nothing weird has happened here and this idea never applied anywhere but a courtroom, and yet all these commenters seem convinced of the opposite of both points.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      These fucking red pilled incels. Yeah, they can overrun any comment section, but get them in the real world and they scurry back to the shadows roaches.

  • @[email protected]
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    202 years ago

    My dad got sucked into the Russell Brand woo during the pandemic. Maybe he’ll finally come to his senses now this guy is an obvious fraud?

    • @[email protected]
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      Low chance, more likely he’ll think Brand is some kind of martyr. Brand immediately dove into the Andrew Tate angle.

      It’s simple: if you’re a media personality that uses your influence and money to groom and/or sexually harass or assault women, simply tell your audience that the government is trying to silence you, because “you’re a dangerous revolutionary too close to the truth” or anything like that really.

    • TwoGems
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      Block your dad’s router and blame the deep state

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    YouTube has blocked Russell Brand from making money off its platform and the BBC pulled some of his shows from its online streaming service in the wake of rape and sexual assault allegations against the comedian-turned-influencer.

    Brand has developed a major following on his YouTube channel in recent years, amassing more than 6.6 million subscribers while cultivating a persona as a “wellness” and conspiracy influencer.

    The BBC also reported it had removed “some programmes” featuring the former actor that were “deemed to ‘fall below public expectations’” from its streaming services, iPlayer and Sounds.

    “There is limited content featuring Russell Brand on iPlayer and Sounds,” the BBC said in a statement published by the U.K. public broadcaster on Tuesday.

    Other platforms hosting material from Brand, including Spotify and Luminary, did not immediately respond to requests for comment from NBC News.

    The police department told NBC News it received a report of sexual assault against Brand on Sunday, a day after the publication of the investigation and the airing of a documentary on the subject on Saturday.


    The original article contains 542 words, the summary contains 175 words. Saved 68%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • ntzm [he/him]
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    Lots of pro-rapists in this thread. Fuck Russel Brand and fuck Google (obviously)

  • @[email protected]
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    582 years ago

    If you ever get accused of a crime, your whole life should be cancelled as a precautionary measure /s

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      It’s a bit more than an accusation, it’s a four year investigation by several media outlets signed off by their legal department. Not someone on twitter.

    • @[email protected]
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      252 years ago

      Russell Brand is a wealthy, famous Hollywood star who does not know who you are and will never give you the love you needed from your father.

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        You have allowed yourself to become so cynical that the only reason you can conceive of for speaking up in another person’s defense is that it might be part of some psychological complex from childhood.

        • @[email protected]
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          Give me another reason to stand up for a famous hollywood star you know nothing real about, just a carefully and expensively crafted media persona.

          I’m all for a good discussion around the social implications of false accusations, but there’s an exceptional amounting of simping going on for one specific special boy.

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            Aside from false accusations - how about tech monopolies (only beholden to profits/shareholders) being judge, jury and executioner?

            I think Brand is a narcissistic prick, but that doesn’t mean I don’t care how he’s treated by even bigger evils.

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              I agree that capitalism is bad.

              But since we live in a capitalist country, I do my part as an informed consumer and I don’t use Google products.

              But this particular brand of whining about “big tech” is so stupid. Google risks losing advertisers. Google acts to not lose it’s advertisers. Cry a river that in a capitalist economy a business takes action to protect its income source.

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              Yes, Brand has been executed by having his YouTube account demonetized. There’s no difference between not being paid by YouTube, but still being allowed to post videos, and being convicted of a crime. No difference whatsoever.

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                  I stopped reading at the insult. This is not Reddit. If you can’t talk to me without insulting me, I’m not interested. I’ll just block you if it happens again. If you want to talk to me without the insults, fine.

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      Another way this could be phrased is - Following serious allegations of rape and sexual assaults advertiser’s do not wish to be associated with Russell Brand so YouTube stops showing their adverts on his channel

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        But why can’t those advertisers just block him as an individual?

        We are now in a world where accusations now result in a de facto guilty verdict. We already saw this with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.

        No need for YouTube to blanketly make the decisions for all advertisers

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          a de facto guilty verdict. We already saw this with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.

          We only saw this with Amber Heard. Speaking of simping, Depp had an army of incels and “men’s rights” douchers behind him from the get go. Anyone who had any objective comments about that whole case would get chewed out and brigaded by a bunch of insecure woman beaters standing up for poor little Johnny Depp. The worst was how everyone acted like they knew both of their lives inside and out, and they really believed that they were experts on their situation because they watched livestreamed court proceedings. It is a great example, just in the opposite direction.

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            Just watched a documentary about it which made Depp look pretty bad. I still believe he was more of a victim than her.

            Why in the fuck do you people think you can ignore the recording of her taunting him about how no one would believe him and then what a FUCKING PUSSY she kept calling him? The evidence she’s a huge piece of shit is there. Him too to a degree, but she’s at another level. He lost part of his finger. Can’t fake that shit.

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          There’s nothing stopping him getting his own advertising on his channel, he hasn’t been banned from YouTube.

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            Why does Google have to restrict which form of advertising he needs to use?

            By confining him to certain types of advertising, it makes him less appealing to advertisers.

            What if these accusations end up being false? I’m not losing sleep over Russell Brand losing money but if we hold the same logic it could damage smaller entities that can’t afford it.

            We see this with channels like the Armchair historian. Google demonitized that channel just because they had Nazi flags in a historical context when talking about WWII.

            Another case could be made for anyone who wants to defame another individual. If someone doesn’t like management for a local restaurant that advertises on YouTube, someone can just say “I heard from several people you had rats in your restaurant” or “I heard you had racist employees in your restaurant”. We now live in a world where just the allegation is enough to damage an entity, regardless of if it is based in fact.

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              In this instance it isn’t just an allegation though - one of the women has evidence she went to a rape crisis centre on the same day, which Channel 4 was able to confirm with the centre, and text messages from Brand on the same day where he apologised for his rape.

              Why would Google continue to profit from his actions? That would be mental.

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          There’s a difference between accusations and a four year media investigation. Especially UK media that has to adhere to pretty strict libel laws. They’ve had to make sure they have the receipts and proof for the papers legal team to sign off on the story. This isn’t like Zoe Quinn chucking out some accusations on Twitter and ending up with a bloke topping himself. Also if you remember, Depp lost his lible case in the UK.

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          This is how advertising works. Advertisers do not want to be responsible for vetting every placement, part of what the publisher is being paid for in “run-of-site” / “run-of-network” advertising is curation of ad-adjacent content.

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      The thing is, he isn’t cancelled.

      Nobody who can say they are cancelled actually are cancelled, because if they were actually cancelled you wouldn’t hear anything from then.

      Anyway, he still is allowed to post Youtube videos, just doesn’t get money from Google for them.

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        “nobody who can say they were cancelled actually are cancelled” don’t you think that means you should redefine what “cancelled” means in your head?

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    Does YouTube have a precedent of blocking people who have allegations? I know little about Russel and his actions, but the way this whole thing has blown up, has me raising an eyebrow. I know his content is exposing of the establishment so I am wondering if we are seeing something here to take him down? Ultimately, justice needs to take place and until then, he should be treated as innocent until proven guilty.